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Street_Legal
PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:11 pm   Post subject:

LHI wrote:
Street_Legal wrote:
Outsiders went 8-1 not 5-2 in the alliance rumble.


You are 100% correct. I am going to rescore the whole turn for alliances and see where the error came in. Thanks!


Understandable considering there's so much to score. Maybe one of the "computer programmers" out there can help devise some sort of program to pull these things apart, at least as far as the alliance or affiliations go. Too bad we don't have Dameon Darkheart around to make a page like we had for the Morya Madness Cool
Hammer_Minister_of_War
PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:48 pm   Post subject:

LHI wrote:
Street_Legal wrote:
Outsiders went 8-1 not 5-2 in the alliance rumble.


You are 100% correct. I am going to rescore the whole turn for alliances and see where the error came in. Thanks!



Remember My F-NO-ANT HAMMERZ Does NOT Score Any Alliance Points For or Against Anyone!
LHI
PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:37 pm   Post subject:

Street_Legal wrote:
Outsiders went 8-1 not 5-2 in the alliance rumble.


You are 100% correct. I am going to rescore the whole turn for alliances and see where the error came in. Thanks!
LHI
PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:26 pm   Post subject:

Just to be clear for everyone in the Alliance/Region contests only matches against other regional or Alliance warriors count. Stand ins, DAs, matches against your own alliance/region are not counted.

The Top Team contest is the only contest that is penalized for deaths.
Street_Legal
PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:45 am   Post subject:

Outsiders went 8-1 not 5-2 in the alliance rumble.
Apex
PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:13 am   Post subject:

Managerr wrote:
There's all this jumble about DA penalties and such--it seemed to be a common sense application that you would be penalized for DA's. (As you are in every other contest that requires you to DA) If DA's aren't counting, then why the heck did we bother with all this DA'ing on Turn 0 instead of just bringing in 0 FE teams? Why are people not allowed to join past turn 0? A clearer understanding of the rules would have brought in higher participation as well. People would have camped in and started to DA godlings without the fear that it would hurt their region (and a 1/3 chance of earning another bonus potion if they guessed right on the regional winner)

Oh well, I can't complain too much, since for the Andorian side, we would have likely had the same score. (Albeit with like 26 DA's or so) But I had to think that the only ones who knew about this was the LID side. Didn't you wonder why there were so few DA's in turn 1?


Yeah, we had no idea either. I have DA's that need to be done, but I was hanging onto them to try and get a couple of wins out of the to offset the point loss. now I don't have to worry about it.
Managerr
PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:10 am   Post subject:

There's all this jumble about DA penalties and such--it seemed to be a common sense application that you would be penalized for DA's. (As you are in every other contest that requires you to DA) If DA's aren't counting, then why the heck did we bother with all this DA'ing on Turn 0 instead of just bringing in 0 FE teams? Why are people not allowed to join past turn 0? A clearer understanding of the rules would have brought in higher participation as well. People would have camped in and started to DA godlings without the fear that it would hurt their region (and a 1/3 chance of earning another bonus potion if they guessed right on the regional winner)

Oh well, I can't complain too much, since for the Andorian side, we would have likely had the same score. (Albeit with like 26 DA's or so) But I had to think that the only ones who knew about this was the LID side. Didn't you wonder why there were so few DA's in turn 1?
pipthetroll
PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:35 am   Post subject:

LHI wrote:
Managerr wrote:
Hold on. I was under the impression DA losses counted against region and alliance score. The Andorians can't be the only one, as I'm pretty sure the Free Blades thought the same thing, otherwise, there's no way they'd have fielded the travesty they called a team in Turn 1. If that's not the case, we have a problem and you need to let us know ASAP because almost everyone turned in their stuff for turn #2 already.

In any case, I have the Delarquans losing # 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 18, 34, and 47.


Following is the scoring rule for the Alliance Contest:
Alliance Rumble:
• Each turn, the Alliance with the highest W/L percentage will receive 1 Alliance Rumble point. Wins or losses against your declared alliance or independent warriors (including DAs) are not scored.

And for the Region Contest:
Regional Rumble:
• Each turn, the Region with the highest W/L percentage will receive 1 Regional Rumble point. Wins against your declared region or independent warriors (including DAs) are not scored.

So for the alliance and regional contests DA losses do not count. Only matches against warriors from opposing factions are used for scoring.


Yeah, we all though da losses counted against you, where does the death count as an extra loss factor in? Or is that just deaths from opposing factions? We had assumed that winning 1 fight and daing 4 would result in a 1-4 record (1 win for the win, and 4 losses from the deaths); so this is incorrect?
LHI
PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:46 pm   Post subject:

Managerr wrote:
Hold on. I was under the impression DA losses counted against region and alliance score. The Andorians can't be the only one, as I'm pretty sure the Free Blades thought the same thing, otherwise, there's no way they'd have fielded the travesty they called a team in Turn 1. If that's not the case, we have a problem and you need to let us know ASAP because almost everyone turned in their stuff for turn #2 already.

In any case, I have the Delarquans losing # 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 18, 34, and 47.


Following is the scoring rule for the Alliance Contest:
Alliance Rumble:
• Each turn, the Alliance with the highest W/L percentage will receive 1 Alliance Rumble point. Wins or losses against your declared alliance or independent warriors (including DAs) are not scored.

And for the Region Contest:
Regional Rumble:
• Each turn, the Region with the highest W/L percentage will receive 1 Regional Rumble point. Wins against your declared region or independent warriors (including DAs) are not scored.

So for the alliance and regional contests DA losses do not count. Only matches against warriors from opposing factions are used for scoring.
Managerr
PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:13 pm   Post subject:

Hold on. I was under the impression DA losses counted against region and alliance score. The Andorians can't be the only one, as I'm pretty sure the Free Blades thought the same thing, otherwise, there's no way they'd have fielded the travesty they called a team in Turn 1. If that's not the case, we have a problem and you need to let us know ASAP because almost everyone turned in their stuff for turn #2 already.

In any case, I have the Delarquans losing # 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 18, 34, and 47.
LHI
PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:12 pm   Post subject:

Ok, all the scores are up. Please pick them apart... especially the region rumble... its very close!
LHI
PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:46 pm   Post subject:

Its much easier to score from that list. Remember to dump DA fights, fights vs the same faction, and fights against stand ins. There should be 25 fights.
LHI
PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:45 pm   Post subject:

1) BA DA (66-4253) (0-0-0,0) of F-CDC DARC-CYIIIDE DA challenged ARENAMASTER SHAGELL (66-23) (0-0-0,100) of DARK ARENA.
BA DA was butchered by ARENAMASTER SHAGELL in a 1 minute bloody Dark Arena fight.

2) LU-DA2 (66-4284) (0-0-0,0) of D-LID-WASTELAND DA challenged GENERAL KENDAR (66-25) (0-0-0,60) of DARK ARENA.
LU-DA2 was slaughtered by GENERAL KENDAR in a 1 minute gruesome Dark Arena battle.

3) BA KILL ME (66-4309) (0-0-0,0) of D-LID-LBA LEGENDS DA challenged GENERAL KENDAR (66-25) (0-0-0,60) of DARK ARENA.
BA KILL ME was murdered by GENERAL KENDAR in a 1 minute Dark Arena fight.

4) LU-DA1 (66-4283) (0-0-0,0) of D-LID-WASTELAND DA challenged 2ND LT. BHURG (66-19) (0-0-0,60) of DARK ARENA.
LU-DA1 was slaughtered by 2ND LT. BHURG in a 1 minute bloody Dark Arena brawl.

5) LU LUNGE UNGER (66-4258) (0-0-0,0) of F-FZ-DARC CIYIIIIDE DA challenged DRILL SERGEANT DHAS (66-20) (0-0-0,60) of DARK ARENA.
LU LUNGE UNGER was assassinated by DRILL SERGEANT DHAS in a 1 minute Dark Arena fight.

6) LU-TOXIC TOAD (66-4210) (0-0-0,0) of D-OUT-DOC LEGRAND'S fought ST BIGFATHAIRYDEAL (66-4305) (0-0-0,0) of D-LID-LBA LEGENDS.
LU-TOXIC TOAD bested ST BIGFATHAIRYDEAL in a 2 minute beginner's brawl.

7) PR-AVISTA HAMMER (66-4211) (0-0-0,0) of F-NO-ANT HAMMERZ fought PS ELKE JEINSEN (66-4271) (0-0-0,0) of D-OUT-PLAYMATES.
PR-AVISTA HAMMER overpowered PS ELKE JEINSEN in a 3 minute one-sided struggle.

Cool WS-MANIAC HAMMER (66-4212) (0-0-0,0) of F-NO-ANT HAMMERZ fought LU-RAINBOW TROUT (66-4287) (0-0-0,0) of D-LID-BIGMEANFISH.
WS-MANIAC HAMMER bested LU-RAINBOW TROUT in a 4 minute novice's competition.

9) AB-ARROYO HAMMER (66-4213) (0-0-0,0) of F-NO-ANT HAMMERZ fought ST-SPEED RACER (66-4205) (0-0-0,0) of A-AF-NEED 4 SPEED.
AB-ARROYO HAMMER won victory over ST-SPEED RACER in a 1 minute beginner's duel.

10) ST-MADMAN HAMMER (66-4214) (0-0-0,0) of F-NO-ANT HAMMERZ fought LU-LUCKY (66-4223) (0-0-0,0) of F-CDC-LUROCIANS.
ST-MADMAN HAMMER lost to LU-LUCKY in a 1 minute beginner's fight.

11) PS-MASQUE HAMMER (66-4215) (0-0-0,0) of F-NO-ANT HAMMERZ fought SL-GHOTI (66-4236) (0-0-0,0) of D-OUT-ANDORIA.
PS-MASQUE HAMMER was viciously butchered by SL-GHOTI in a 2 minute novice's fight.

12) ST-SOUL BROTHER 1 (66-4216) (0-0-0,0) of F-FZ-MY BRO'S fought TP AUTUMN (66-4262) (0-0-0,0) of A-GQ-ANDORIAN POWER.
ST-SOUL BROTHER 1 was outwaited by TP AUTUMN in a tiresome 12 minute novice's bout.

13) BA-LITTLE BROTHER (66-4217) (0-0-0,0) of F-FZ-MY BRO'S fought BA-IZZLE (66-4296) (0-0-0,0) of F-FZ-IZZLE.
BA-LITTLE BROTHER was demolished by BA-IZZLE in a 1 minute mismatched competition.

14) SL-BLOOD BROTHER (66-4218) (0-0-0,0) of F-FZ-MY BRO'S fought TP-IZZLE (66-4299) (0-0-0,0) of F-FZ-IZZLE.
SL-BLOOD BROTHER was unbelievably bested by TP-IZZLE in a 3 minute novice's battle.

15) SL-FRAT BROTHER (66-4219) (0-0-0,0) of F-FZ-MY BRO'S fought LU MUGGLE (66-4265) (0-0-0,0) of F-FZ-COOL WORDS.
SL-FRAT BROTHER was butchered by LU MUGGLE in a 1 minute bloody mismatched bout.

16) BA-BIG BROTHER (66-4220) (0-0-0,0) of F-FZ-MY BRO'S fought SL SLOW AND LOW (66-4255) (0-0-0,0) of F-FZ-DARC CIYIIIIDE.
BA-BIG BROTHER overpowered SL SLOW AND LOW in a 1 minute one-sided duel.

17) BA-BRUISER (66-4221) (0-0-0,0) of F-CDC-LUROCIANS fought TP-SEBASTARDIAN (66-4294) (0-0-0,0) of D-LID-INQUISITION.
BA-BRUISER was bested by TP-SEBASTARDIAN in a 2 minute beginner's duel.

1Cool TP-TRICKY (66-4222) (0-0-0,0) of F-CDC-LUROCIANS fought TP-MANAGER (66-4239) (0-0-0,0) of D-OUT-ANDORIA.
TP-TRICKY outlasted TP-MANAGER in a unpopular 16 minute amateur's brawl.

19) SL-SLAPPY (66-4224) (0-0-0,0) of F-CDC-LUROCIANS fought LU-CALLOUS CROCODILE (66-4208) (0-0-0,0) of D-OUT-DOC LEGRAND'S.
SL-SLAPPY was overpowered by LU-CALLOUS CROCODILE in a 1 minute one-sided bout.

20) ST-STRIPE (66-4225) (0-0-0,0) of F-CDC-LUROCIANS fought LU-BROOK TROUT (66-4285) (0-0-0,0) of D-LID-BIGMEANFISH.
ST-STRIPE overpowered LU-BROOK TROUT in a 1 minute one-sided bout.

21) ST-GAZREK (66-4226) (0-0-0,0) of F-CDC-DEMONS fought LU BARRY SHNAPP (66-4278) (0-0-0,0) of A-AF-SHNAPP ATTACK.
ST-GAZREK was luckily beaten by LU BARRY SHNAPP in a 3 minute amateur's conflict.

22) BA-SCOOTER (66-4227) (0-0-0,0) of F-CDC-DEMONS fought TP-INHUMANE (66-4300) (0-0-0,0) of D-LID-MOB THUGS.
BA-SCOOTER was unbelievably bested by TP-INHUMANE in a 3 minute novice's bout.

23) ST-GAZZREK (66-4228) (0-0-0,0) of F-CDC-DEMONS fought ST-CORRUPT (66-4302) (0-0-0,0) of D-LID-MOB THUGS.
ST-GAZZREK was vanquished by ST-CORRUPT in a 1 minute one-sided match.

24) LU-TYVIN (66-4229) (0-0-0,0) of F-CDC-DEMONS fought PS-FLO JO (66-4233) (0-0-0,0) of A-AF-NEED 4 SPEED.
LU-TYVIN was handily defeated by PS-FLO JO in a 1 minute uneven duel.

25) SL-TYVEK (66-4230) (0-0-0,0) of F-CDC-DEMONS fought AB-RAKE (66-4304) (0-0-0,0) of D-LID-MOB THUGS.
SL-TYVEK was devastated by AB-RAKE in a 1 minute one-sided bout.

26) SL-DASH (66-4232) (0-0-0,0) of A-AF-NEED 4 SPEED fought PL-IZZLE (66-4297) (0-0-0,0) of F-FZ-IZZLE.
SL-DASH overpowered PL-IZZLE in a 1 minute uneven fight.

27) AB-RICKY BOBBY (66-4234) (0-0-0,0) of A-AF-NEED 4 SPEED fought ST LARRY SHNAPP (66-4275) (0-0-0,0) of A-AF-SHNAPP ATTACK.
AB-RICKY BOBBY narrowly defeated ST LARRY SHNAPP in a 3 minute gory beginner's fight.

2Cool ST-KENNELWORTH (66-4235) (0-0-0,0) of D-OUT-ANDORIA fought AB-DA (66-4292) (0-0-0,0) of D-LID-INQUISITION.
ST-KENNELWORTH overpowered AB-DA in a 1 minute uneven match.

29) PR-JRK (66-4237) (0-0-0,0) of D-OUT-ANDORIA fought BA NICOLE LENZ (66-4272) (0-0-0,0) of D-OUT-PLAYMATES.
PR-JRK beat BA NICOLE LENZ in a 4 minute beginner's duel.

30) AB-ADIE (66-4238) (0-0-0,0) of D-OUT-ANDORIA fought TP HARMLESS (66-4263) (0-0-0,0) of A-GQ-ANDORIAN POWER.
AB-ADIE savagely defeated TP HARMLESS in a 1 minute bloody novice's fray.

31) TP-AB (66-4240) (0-0-0,0) of A-GQ-DECEIT fought LU-IZZLE (66-4298) (0-0-0,0) of F-FZ-IZZLE.
TP-AB won victory over LU-IZZLE in a popular 4 minute gruesome novice's bout.

32) TP-PS (66-4243) (0-0-0,0) of A-GQ-DECEIT fought AB MARY SHNAPP (66-4276) (0-0-0,0) of A-AF-SHNAPP ATTACK.
TP-PS was overcome by AB MARY SHNAPP in a 2 minute novice's fight.

33) TP-NAUTILUS (66-4245) (0-0-0,0) of A-AF-BUBBLEHEADS fought PS-TURD BUNGLER (66-4290) (0-0-0,0) of D-LID-INQUISITION.
TP-NAUTILUS was savagely defeated by PS-TURD BUNGLER in a 4 minute novice's fight.

34) LU LENNY (66-4250) (0-0-0,0) of F-CDC DARC-CYIIIDE fought ST-BRUTALITY (66-4303) (0-0-0,0) of D-LID-MOB THUGS.
LU LENNY beat ST-BRUTALITY in a 1 minute novice's fray.

35) SL SAMBO (66-4251) (0-0-0,0) of F-CDC DARC-CYIIIDE fought PL PILLOW LEG (66-4259) (0-0-0,0) of F-FZ-DARC CIYIIIIDE.
SL SAMBO slimly lost to PL PILLOW LEG in a 3 minute novice's duel.

36) TP TURD (66-4252) (0-0-0,0) of F-CDC DARC-CYIIIDE fought ST-IZZLE (66-4295) (0-0-0,0) of F-FZ-IZZLE.
TP TURD was devastated by ST-IZZLE in a 2 minute bloody one-sided battle.

37) SL SAMBOO (66-4254) (0-0-0,0) of F-CDC DARC-CYIIIDE fought BA FLUB (66-4268) (0-0-0,0) of F-FZ-COOL WORDS.
SL SAMBOO was overpowered by BA FLUB in a 1 minute one-sided fray.

3Cool LS SARDONIC LEE (66-4256) (0-0-0,0) of F-FZ-DARC CIYIIIIDE fought ST-TOURNEY FLUFF (66-4282) (0-0-0,0) of D-LID-WASTELAND.
LS SARDONIC LEE was demolished by ST-TOURNEY FLUFF in a 1 minute mismatched match.

39) WS SILL STILL (66-4257) (0-0-0,0) of F-FZ-DARC CIYIIIIDE fought TP SCARY SHNAPP (66-4277) (0-0-0,0) of A-AF-SHNAPP ATTACK.
WS SILL STILL was subdued by TP SCARY SHNAPP in a 5 minute novice's duel.

40) SL-SNAPPING TURTLE (66-4209) (0-0-0,0) of D-OUT-DOC LEGRAND'S fought PR JENNY MCCARTHY (66-4273) (0-0-0,0) of D-OUT-PLAYMATES.
SL-SNAPPING TURTLE was beaten by PR JENNY MCCARTHY in a 2 minute novice's duel.

41) PS EVENING (66-4264) (0-0-0,0) of A-GQ-ANDORIAN POWER fought PL-FRECKLED FROG (66-4207) (0-0-0,0) of D-OUT-DOC LEGRAND'S.
PS EVENING was overcome by PL-FRECKLED FROG in a 5 minute amateur's match.

42) TP DONGLE (66-4266) (0-0-0,0) of F-FZ-COOL WORDS fought TP VANNA WHITE (66-4306) (0-0-0,0) of D-LID-LBA LEGENDS.
TP DONGLE outwaited TP VANNA WHITE in a monotonous 19 minute novice's match.

43) ST VURP (66-4267) (0-0-0,0) of F-FZ-COOL WORDS fought TP JERRY SHNAPP (66-4279) (0-0-0,0) of A-AF-SHNAPP ATTACK.
ST VURP was outwaited by TP JERRY SHNAPP in a monotonous 9 minute amateur's duel.

44) AB PERNICIOUS (66-4269) (0-0-0,0) of F-FZ-COOL WORDS fought LU-BUTCH-ER (66-4291) (0-0-0,0) of D-LID-INQUISITION.
AB PERNICIOUS was overcome by LU-BUTCH-ER in a 1 minute amateur's duel.

45) BA KRISTI CLINE (66-4270) (0-0-0,0) of D-OUT-PLAYMATES fought SL-INFERNAL (66-4301) (0-0-0,0) of D-LID-MOB THUGS.
BA KRISTI CLINE overpowered SL-INFERNAL in a 1 minute one-sided brawl.

46) TP TAYLOR JAMES (66-4274) (0-0-0,0) of D-OUT-PLAYMATES fought BA HIGH TIDE (66-4308) (0-0-0,0) of D-LID-LBA LEGENDS.
TP TAYLOR JAMES unbelievably bested BA HIGH TIDE in a 5 minute amateur's melee.

47) BA-I DIE SOON (66-4280) (0-0-0,0) of D-LID-WASTELAND fought ST UGAMUGGAH (66-4307) (0-0-0,0) of D-LID-LBA LEGENDS.
BA-I DIE SOON was overpowered by ST UGAMUGGAH in a 1 minute one-sided fight.

4Cool LU-INFLAMMABLE (66-4281) (0-0-0,0) of D-LID-WASTELAND fought PS-MOTTLED GECKO (66-4206) (0-0-0,0) of D-OUT-DOC LEGRAND'S.
LU-INFLAMMABLE was defeated by PS-MOTTLED GECKO in a popular 6 minute novice's duel.

49) BA-RED SHINER (66-4286) (0-0-0,0) of D-LID-BIGMEANFISH fought AB-WART BELLINS (66-4293) (0-0-0,0) of D-LID-INQUISITION.
BA-RED SHINER overcame AB-WART BELLINS in a 1 minute amateur's bout.

50) TP-BLACK CRAPPIE (66-4288) (0-0-0,0) of D-LID-BIGMEANFISH fought CORPORAL JORIAN (66-1) (0-0-0,5) of .
TP-BLACK CRAPPIE outwaited CORPORAL JORIAN in a unpopular 8 minute novice's match.

51) TP-CARP (66-4289) (0-0-0,0) of D-LID-BIGMEANFISH fought CORPORAL TIHL (66-4) (0-0-0,10) of .
TP-CARP overpowered CORPORAL TIHL in a slow 5 minute one-sided Title battle.
Managerr
PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:45 pm   Post subject:

Quote:
D: 11-6 64.7%
A: 7-4 63.6%
F: 7-15 31.8%


Can you post a breakdown? You could be right, but both me and Hombre scored it differently. (Note that we both scored it differently from ourselves too, and Street's was different as well--so a breakdown would be helpful since everyone can check their own)
Street_Legal
PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:32 pm   Post subject:

No #'s yet on the alliance score? I guess we are truly the OUTSIDERS as it was the one area overlooked thus far Laughing