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The Consortium
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:49 pm   Post subject:

MarmaDuke wrote:
Question regarding running multiple teams in the same arena. I know that running a single team in a particular arena costs $3.25 + $1.50 per warrior for a total of $10.75 per team per turn.
My question comes into play when running multiple teams in the same arena. If you run three full teams in a single arena during a turn do you get charged:

1) ($3.25 + $1.50 x5) x3 = $32.25 for one turn

OR

2) ($3.25 + $1.50 x 15) = $25.75 for one turn?

As usual, thanks in advance for your help.
-Marma Duke-


We wish there were a monetary advantage, but, alas, as already reported, no such luck. ($32.25)

This can actually be a bigger cost issue for 82 and 84 managers who tend to have a lot of teams with only one or two warriors on it. The cost to run five individual warriors there is the ($3.25 + $1.50)x 5 = $23.75!
SwineTiger
PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:16 pm   Post subject:

There are no special deals for running more than one team in arena so you pay the same for each team you run (base charge+each warrior).

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MarmaDuke
PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:17 am   Post subject:

Question regarding running multiple teams in the same arena. I know that running a single team in a particular arena costs $3.25 + $1.50 per warrior for a total of $10.75 per team per turn.
My question comes into play when running multiple teams in the same arena. If you run three full teams in a single arena during a turn do you get charged:

1) ($3.25 + $1.50 x5) x3 = $32.25 for one turn

OR

2) ($3.25 + $1.50 x 15) = $25.75 for one turn?

As usual, thanks in advance for your help.
-Marma Duke-
PurpleSage
PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:02 pm   Post subject: Sticky Request

Could we new and returning managers get a historical sticky please. One stating changes to the game, tourneys and any rules or whatever in a linear historical format. Trying to find out changes has been very difficult.

Sincerely Purple Sage
The Consortium
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:16 am   Post subject:

Purple Sage and others .....................

We in The Consortium, while having a fair amount of DM82/84 warriors, and do have some sandbaggers here and there, and do fight those in tournaments, are really BASIC and BASIC ADM Managers. We fight many arena warriors in the tournaments and we do TVand ocassionally TC with basic warriors.

Don't let the significant amount of Tournet Managers and Tourney-Only Warriors bother you, especially at DM levels, and lower ADM. (Challengers is an issue for us arena managers, but we have TV'd there with basic warriors also.)

Just do it!
SwineTiger
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:03 pm   Post subject:

I've seen this topic many times and I would say that a paradigm shift might in order for new/returning managers when they view the tourneys. Rather than being disenchanted with the challenge of ever TCing, make TVing your goal. Whenever I TV, it feels great! Keep in mind that my recent TVs were when I mailed in my guys to a F2F, so they were at an even greater disadvantage.

SwineTiger
Nomad
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:41 pm   Post subject: Re: Please Clarify

PurpleSage wrote:
Tourney Questions.

Could soneone please enlighten me so I am not in the dark or misunderstanding the current nature of the game?

1.) People are holding warriors back from graduating them out of regular to fight in the very top of challengers by frezzing learns or stat raises so they can get as close to the top as possible. This causes a challengers tourney to be basicly a wash for any warrior in the regular arena.

2.) When these Sand Baggers do get sucked off to Ad they end up at the top of Freshman.

3.) This sandbaging style of play continues in ADM, Ellibles and Contendors.

4.) Aimed blows are the only styles winning the top end tourneys.

5.) Warriors with prizes added and/or awesome bonuses are the only ones winning top end tourney's.

6.) Tourney warriors pop into regular arean's around split time throwing highly skilled warriors into lower ranks then thier actual FE would place them. (Modified by many Tourney Teams moved to 82 and 84)

Thanks to any who can help me.

Sincerely Purple Sage


The technical details I will leave for a true tourney manager. I am an arena manager. I enter a small squad in the mail-ins. But regular arenas is where I focus my money.

Yes, some managers focus on tourneys and certainly they do sandbag. However, in my expereince they really don't interupt regular arena life all that much. Most tourney managers only bring warriors in to time - which really only means 5-6 fights for the good ones before they hit challenges. Ok, maybe a few more. But since they jump points in the standings based on arena results they climb fairly quickly. I'm not saying I like facing a 5-0 tourney babey, but since they will almost certainly have less than 30 fe, they are certainly beatable.

A few keys:
1. Most managers seem to dump their tourney warriors in 82 and the other tournament dumping zones. (84?) This means that not many tourney warriors actually show up in the regular arenas.
2. The real sandbagging happens in challengers. That's 30+ Fe. This has two results. First, I don't bother entering arena warriors in this division. But really, so what? I lose one division to the tourney warriors and the truth is few of my arena guys would be there anyway. The good ones are gone by 30Fe. Second, once tourney sandbaggers hit challengers they won't fight in the arena. Period. They won't. Why would someone like Daydream Believer waste some of their FE in the arena? It will just cause them to graduate earlier. If you leave this division to the sandbaggers there is no real problem.

Daydream Believer is actually a good example of this. 5-0-1 was I believe the arena record - hardly a problem for arena warriors. And he fought in arena 82 so it didn't matter anyway. Where's the problem?

The impact on AD I am less certain about. Yes, unarmed AB dominate primus, but I think a few recent posts have made very good points about this. RSI might have alread "fixed' this - and we just haven't figured it out yet. Also, I suspect new things will come up. The problem with prizes is also real - those of us who don't focus on tournaments are unlikely to win prizes. But there is a lot of room for arena wins (and even tournament) wins before running into the Primus wall. How much space, well, I'll let others say.

Basically - although I asked the same question when I came back to the game, this arena manager doesn't see it as a big problem.
Kellumbo
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:32 pm   Post subject: Re: Please Clarify

***My thoughts below***

Tourney Questions.

Could soneone please enlighten me so I am not in the dark or misunderstanding the current nature of the game?

1.) People are holding warriors back from graduating them out of regular to fight in the very top of challengers by frezzing learns or stat raises so they can get as close to the top as possible. This causes a challengers tourney to be basicly a wash for any warrior in the regular arena.

***I would say that yes, Challengers would be very difficult to win for a regular arena warrior. That said, most regular arena warriors graduate well before 30 FE, therefore unless they sandbag, they will not see the Challengers class unless they plan to.***

2.) When these Sand Baggers do get sucked off to Ad they end up at the top of Freshman.

***If the manager times it correctly then yes. However, these warriors are typically not good enough to deal with the good freshman scum. As an example, my good/good double 21 LU with about 160 skills who went to Freshman at last years ftf, and got creamed. Freshman is much more than just how many skills you have.***

3.) This sandbaging style of play continues in ADM, Ellibles and Contendors.

***Yes, people sandbag, but if you are close to the Line for a class, then you are certainly able to do well. You don't have to sandbag to TV, but just like in basic where you wouldn't expect to TV Adepts at 15 FE, don't expect to TV the AD classes unless you are close to the top of the class.***

4.) Aimed blows are the only styles winning the top end tourneys.

***I totally disagree with this. With careful planning, I think most warriors can win a top end tourney (non Primus that is).***

5.) Warriors with prizes added and/or awesome bonuses are the only ones winning top end tourney's.

***I disagree with this again, with the exception of Primus. Winning top end tournies is about patience and planning.***

6.) Tourney warriors pop into regular arean's around split time throwing highly skilled warriors into lower ranks then thier actual FE would place them. (Modified by many Tourney Teams moved to 82 and 84)

***Most of these tourney warriors are in 82 or 84. You will see a few in the regular arenas, but not too many.***

Thanks to any who can help me.

Sincerely Purple Sage

***-Kellumbo***
PurpleSage
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:01 pm   Post subject: Please Clarify

Tourney Questions.

Could soneone please enlighten me so I am not in the dark or misunderstanding the current nature of the game?

1.) People are holding warriors back from graduating them out of regular to fight in the very top of challengers by frezzing learns or stat raises so they can get as close to the top as possible. This causes a challengers tourney to be basicly a wash for any warrior in the regular arena.

2.) When these Sand Baggers do get sucked off to Ad they end up at the top of Freshman.

3.) This sandbaging style of play continues in ADM, Ellibles and Contendors.

4.) Aimed blows are the only styles winning the top end tourneys.

5.) Warriors with prizes added and/or awesome bonuses are the only ones winning top end tourney's.

6.) Tourney warriors pop into regular arean's around split time throwing highly skilled warriors into lower ranks then thier actual FE would place them. (Modified by many Tourney Teams moved to 82 and 84)

Thanks to any who can help me.

Sincerely Purple Sage
PurpleSage
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:06 pm   Post subject: As far as lame creditntals.

I think 1 TC and like 5 TV's I may be off. I seem to think I have had two prizes over the years.

Sincerely Purple Sage
PurpleSage
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:03 pm   Post subject: OK

bLACK KELTS, RAINBOW COUNCIL, WE BIG WHOPUM (RUN BY LITTLE WHOP), AQUARIAN TAROT, CO-MANAGED YAMA BUSHI, BATTLE BLADES AND BIZZARE INK.

I think thats the main ones. If I forgot something I will dig it up. Visionist might give me some credit on some other co-managed teams.

Sincerely Purple Sage
DeGotti
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:52 pm   Post subject:

Hey Purple Sage why don't you list some of your more prominent teams? I would like to see if I recognize any of them.
PurpleSage
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:21 pm   Post subject: Re: 81 should move this to the 81 forum

Nomad wrote:
PurpleSage wrote:
I am sure I will be there awaiting your entrance into it. Not a threat. I am sure of that just I feel you will need to be there. The lure of having an opponent that you can dimonstrate the skills of the citronaturn upon will pull you as a moth to flame. The Cimeronlowatron will sneak peeks into what goes on in 81 till the over powering drive to show the true copernicusatron strength and dominance in even an arena where no padding of warriors will work.

The most humble Purple SAge, Little Whop, Sage and other names I am trying to remeber.
Used to be DM-29, 3, 40, 30, 4 and 10.
I have not finished looking thought I was in a few more.


Sage - when were you in Kolact and with what team? I was there from '85-90 or so - any chance you were there back in the dark ages?


I think I was in 90's but I will look it up. give me a day or so.

Purple Sage
Nomad
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:50 am   Post subject: Re: 81 should move this to the 81 forum

PurpleSage wrote:
I am sure I will be there awaiting your entrance into it. Not a threat. I am sure of that just I feel you will need to be there. The lure of having an opponent that you can dimonstrate the skills of the citronaturn upon will pull you as a moth to flame. The Cimeronlowatron will sneak peeks into what goes on in 81 till the over powering drive to show the true copernicusatron strength and dominance in even an arena where no padding of warriors will work.

The most humble Purple SAge, Little Whop, Sage and other names I am trying to remeber.
Used to be DM-29, 3, 40, 30, 4 and 10.
I have not finished looking thought I was in a few more.


Sage - when were you in Kolact and with what team? I was there from '85-90 or so - any chance you were there back in the dark ages?
roadkill
PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:43 pm   Post subject:

Purple Sage, It's great to have you back.......time has not been kind to me, I understand less of what you're saying than I did years ago. Laughing Crying or Very sad