Basic Stat Trains

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 2:46 pm

What is the most trains anyone has ever had on a singe stat in Basic?
I've had as many as 5 CN raises in Bloodgames (I don't know if the rate to raise stats are the same as in the arenas) but no more than 3 in a basic arena.

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:53 pm

3 for me and the third raise has always been unintentional. I usually only set up warriors for a max of 2 raises in any one stat. One the occasions where I have had 3, it has been a product of me running on maintenance and not changing the train.

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:21 pm

Like in one tourney or total? I would guess that with the Challengers situation being what it is, 5-7 trains in one area is fairly common. Most I've ever had was 8. I also think that the minimum training level for basic has been bumped.

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:38 pm

Managerr wrote:

Like in one tourney or total? I would guess that with the Challengers situation being what it is, 5-7 trains in one area is fairly common. Most I've ever had was 8. I also think that the minimum training level for basic has been bumped.

Really? Arena only? Because my tourney stat training luck has been horrendous the last 1-2 years. I used to be able to count on getting 1-2 trains in at least 3 different areas in a Rookies tourney before and I now sometimes I can go a whole tourney and not hit a single second train with 19-21 WL.

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:44 pm

Not sure about arena, as I don't usually go for minimum stat trains in the arena, but it seems as they are up in tourneys. I get 4-6's regularly it seems these days.

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 5:42 pm

Sentinel wrote:

Managerr wrote:

Like in one tourney or total? I would guess that with the Challengers situation being what it is, 5-7 trains in one area is fairly common. Most I've ever had was 8. I also think that the minimum training level for basic has been bumped.

Really? Arena only? Because my tourney stat training luck has been horrendous the last 1-2 years. I used to be able to count on getting 1-2 trains in at least 3 different areas in a Rookies tourney before and I now sometimes I can go a whole tourney and not hit a single second train with 19-21 WL.

Me too. I've NEVER had any decent luck with stat trains in tournies, if I get even one train through I'm dancin'. Talking non-bust outs, of course.
I'd think there would be some out there (Managerr?) who had those 21 WL/3-5 WT TP scum that have successfully raised a stat more than 3 points in basic. Don't think I ever have personally.

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 8:04 pm

Managerr wrote:

Like in one tourney or total? I would guess that with the Challengers situation being what it is, 5-7 trains in one area is fairly common. Most I've ever had was 8. I also think that the minimum training level for basic has been bumped.

I meant total stat trains. Knowing that most people plan burners around 1-2 trains per stat I figured anyone with more than 3 in an area would more than likely be either a very old warrior or a Challenger sand-bagger (8 trains is impressive. How many FE did it take to accomplish that?).

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 8:32 pm

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Me too. I've NEVER had any decent luck with stat trains in tournies, if I get even one train through I'm dancin'. Talking non-bust outs, of course.

None of you really sandbag Challengers though. You probably need a really large sample to be able to see it.

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(8 trains is impressive. How many FE did it take to accomplish that?).

Not sure how much FE it too, I don't really count. Probably in the high 90's.
Got the initial 4 or 5 in the first tourney, which made the rest go faster.

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:21 am

Managerr wrote:

5-7 trains in one area is fairly common. Most I've ever had was 8.

Okay, this is just mind boggling to me. If we are talking total trains then I have several warriors with 12-18 stat trains. But, if we are talking a single stat train (ie STR) then 3 is my max in Basic. In fact, I have a warrior with a 25 Will in ADM that I'm having trouble pushing any of his trains past 5 in one area and have had the problem for a LONG time. 8 trains in one area and especially in Basic is sickening to me.

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:38 am

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Will in ADM that I'm having trouble pushing any of his trains past 5 in one area and have had the problem for a LONG time. 8 trains in one area and especially in Basic is sickening to me.

Not really.

Suppose you stop training skills at 40 FE.

This leaves you with 59 FE that you have to train stats in Challengers.
(Since you'll get forcibly removed at 100)

59 FE = 118 tournament training attempts.

Even if the minimum stat train were 5% (I think it's higher), that's an average of about 5 minumum train levels in one area per Challenger. (Not counting that it will probably be easy to get the first 1 or 2) Most Challengers aren't going to be training too many skill stats, so a lot of it is going to be pumped up on CN.