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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:13 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I know there are a few posts on this already. In an attempt to consolidate I am starting a new one that can hopefully contain all future DA returns.

This is the result of 120 rolls resulting from my mass DA in 82. I have not sorted through these yet and are in no order:

8.10.14.5.19.5.9
4.14.10.6.13.10.13
9.10.4.15.13.13.6
6.12.19.7.7.10.9
7.5.13.11.12.9.13
13.10.11.14.5.10.7
12.10.7.13.8.3.17
13.6.18.12.4.12.5
16.13.8.11.10.6.6
9.8.7.16.5.14.11
10.4.12.6.15.15.8
14.14.10.7.9.5.11
9.9.16.5.10.9.12
15.6.8.5.13.9.14
4.16.11.5.16.9.9
16.8.8.12.4.11.11
16.5.7.11.9.10.12
10.4.13.10.10.10.13
4.21.14.8.13.4.6
9.9.16.11.9.7.9
17.10.5.9.9.13.7
14.9.16.5.5.9.12
13.4.12.9.8.12.12
13.14.11.8.5.9.10
11.11.13.10.6.15.4
9.9.7.12.12.9.12
14.12.10.5.16.8.5
5.9.5.14.10.12.15
12.12.13.11.10.3.9
12.6.7.10.7.7.21
8.6.12.10.12.10.12
11.17.10.12.9.8.3
4.13.15.16.12.6.4
6.12.15.10.7.16.4
5.13.8.12.13.9.10
10.12.12.9.11.11.5
13.5.16.5.18.7.6
4.10.10.12.9.15.10
13.4.14.4.13.13.9
9.5.16.8.13.11.8
4.5.17.13.14.11.6
14.4.11.11.10.11.9
5.10.11.16.8.11.9
13.12.7.6.9.12.11
15.3.11.9.12.10.10
14.10.9.11.10.10.6
9.7.15.9.9.10.11
12.5.11.4.14.13.11
12.10.16.10.10.3.9
9.3.18.8.10.9.13
12.10.15.10.5.13.5
5.12.7.13.9.10.14
13.3.16.12.17.6.3
6.8.9.5.21.8.13
10.5.18.13.13.3.8
9.14.17.12.4.9.5
13.4.7.9.12.10.15
13.10.7.17.4.9.10
13.4.8.9.11.12.13
7.10.11.10.8.10.14
3.10.10.16.8.10.13
6.13.9.9.11.13.9
3.12.18.3.11.12.11
16.11.8.4.10.9.12
19.5.7.5.9.15.10
3.17.11.9.3.17.10
12.7.17.12.5.8.9
13.14.7.5.13.11.7
9.6.13.12.9.13.8
9.7.6.5.16.14.13
4.11.11.14.4.13.13
5.8.16.10.8.10.13
5.10.14.12.8.9.12
12.10.11.9.10.13.5
11.12.12.5.13.4.13
13.7.13.9.10.8.10
14.3.15.3.12.13.10
14.13.6.10.12.5.10
9.5.11.10.13.12.10
10.17.10.9.8.6.10
15.12.10.8.9.7.9
14.10.18.5.10.8.5
9.4.11.6.17.13.10
9.9.15.12.9.11.5
9.12.4.9.18.8.10
3.13.13.6.10.12.13
7.13.5.17.7.12.9
4.14.9.13.8.9.13
8.9.15.11.12.5.10
13.5.11.13.9.8.11
8.11.7.5.14.15.10
5.10.16.12.8.7.12
9.8.16.9.8.10.10
9.10.13.5.13.8.12
14.12.9.14.3.15.3
7.18.13.9.4.7.12
13.5.9.12.9.9.13
11.6.17.12.4.7.13
5.12.11.13.8.4.17
12.12.7.17.4.6.12
10.6.14.13.12.10.5
17.5.14.4.9.10.11
12.14.10.9.6.9.10
5.20.8.10.10.7.10
5.10.14.10.9.9.13
5.15.13.14.9.9.5
8.9.13.10.13.8.9
5.5.13.11.13.13.10
6.9.8.14.11.13.9
9.13.11.8.12.9.8
10.14.19.8.5.9.5
3.10.11.8.13.10.15
10.9.15.8.12.9.7
4.8.18.7.13.5.15
4.9.16.13.5.9.14
10.8.14.13.13.5.7
4.8.10.9.12.17.10
8.11.13.10.11.13.4
10.9.14.9.5.16.7
11.9.12.9.12.8.9
10.10.14.5.6.21.4
15.6.13.10.9.12.5

Going through these just while typing them in seems like I had some luck with wit, but am below average with the wills. No 21/21 wit/will popped out at me but there was a lot of entries I might have missed (I doubt it though)

and for 84


6-14-9-10-17-4-10
12-7-6-15-14-11-5
9-10-12-9-11-10-9
10-13-9-13-10-5-10
12-12-15-10-4-9-8
14-4-8-10-13-16-5
4-13-10-11-11-11-10
7-13-7-12-10-9-12
14-6-17-12-9-9-3
10-13-9-14-11-9-4
5-9-15-12-13-4-12
4-14-7-13-5-13-14
15-5-17-10-6-13-4
9-9-15-4-4-12-17
13-8-15-9-9-6-10
11-5-14-7-11-9-13
5-9-19-10-12-10-5
4-14-11-16-7-5-13
8-9-12-12-15-5-9
6-10-13-13-10-10-8
11-10-10-10-9-13-7
10-15-11-7-9-10-8
9-4-21-4-17-10-5
4-13-11-14-6-9-13
9-5-16-12-13-9-6
14-6-7-9-14-9-11
4-16-6-15-13-7-9
9-8-13-13-13-9-5
4-3-18-13-13-10-9
13-4-8-19-10-11-5
10-13-10-13-4-7-13
12-10-10-4-11-10-13
12-4-9-15-14-6-10
17-13-14-12-3-5-6
8-13-11-4-13-8-13
13-4-10-12-9-13-9
14-10-14-10-3-9-10
10-5-14-11-7-10-13
4-12-7-12-9-14-12
12-13-10-10-5-7-13
3-14-12-8-7-13-13
11-12-8-13-10-5-11
5-13-13-12-4-13-10
3-9-3-13-16-13-13
9-13-8-13-6-11-10
6-11-14-12-8-9-10
14-4-7-15-14-4-12
12-10-12-5-11-10-10
10-9-17-9-5-10-10
5-9-17-10-13-4-12
9-9-3-13-13-13-10
5-9-16-16-9-4-11
11-4-13-16-3-10-13
13-7-10-12-8-9-11
3-14-14-10-12-12-5
10-12-12-8-10-9-9
3-12-9-14-12-11-9
11-11-6-12-16-5-9
9-6-17-5-13-9-11
6-10-12-12-9-12-9
4-16-16-12-9-4-9
9-6-12-10-7-11-15
4-10-17-16-10-9-4
9-5-16-13-10-8-9
6-13-16-13-4-8-10
4-12-16-8-17-4-9
10-12-8-14-5-9-12
4-13-16-10-9-5-13
5-8-11-12-12-10-12
3-13-16-8-6-12-12
16-13-4-11-9-12-5
11-13-10-9-6-7-14
5-12-8-13-4-11-17
10-13-9-8-13-5-12
15-12-14-5-9-5-10
12-10-10-13-4-9-12
11-7-11-17-10-7-7
14-11-18-8-5-9-5
9-3-13-11-12-9-13
8-9-7-16-9-10-11
14-9-18-6-7-13-3
7-13-9-5-16-7-13
7-7-13-6-12-12-13
11-8-11-12-10-4-14
13-13-13-12-5-9-5
12-9-11-8-10-11-9
9-7-20-10-11-4-9
15-6-12-15-4-9-9
7-16-16-11-3-7-10
10-10-9-18-5-14-4
9-9-13-5-13-4-17
9-6-8-19-13-6-9
5-13-10-10-9-4-19
16-3-16-3-13-6-13
14-8-13-13-6-9-7
4-15-17-4-11-9-10
13-16-9-3-10-9-10
13-9-11-10-7-13-7
3-10-17-7-6-13-14
15-14-10-9-4-12-6
4-13-17-13-9-5-9
9-10-14-8-12-6-11
10-5-19-13-5-9-9
13-8-9-12-5-14-9
5-14-17-5-13-9-7
10-10-16-10-3-13-8
10-6-18-4-15-8-9
3-12-12-9-13-9-12
13-3-17-9-9-14-5
9-12-12-10-3-15-9
7-9-11-8-13-9-13
13-4-10-10-13-9-11
4-13-15-5-14-9-10
13-13-11-14-4-8-7
13-5-12-7-9-14-10
9-10-14-3-10-14-10
13-10-13-13-7-4-10
6-10-15-14-9-9-7
12-12-9-912-12-4
5-10-16-7-8-11-13
10-4-13-10-14-10-9
9-13-15-8-9-10-6
8-10-14-7-8-13-10
13-11-18-3-12-3-10
13-10-12-9-8-9-9
5-7-9-8-12-13-16
10-10-10-9-12-9-10
18-6-14-9-7-9-7

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

no sz 3 Sad I've actually never had one, sz 4 has been my smallest.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:26 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Dark_Angel wrote:
no sz 3 Sad I've actually never had one, sz 4 has been my smallest.


Well, this was only one turns worth of DA and while it might have been nice, I didn't expect it.

Some decent prospects I see, nothing is jumping out and shouting at me though, yet.... Still have lots to thumb through

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:22 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

10.5.18.13.13.3.8

This one looks like a ton o' fun.. gotta love usable big'uns!

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:00 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

No 21/21s unfortunately.

Not sure why you feel you had some luck with Wit though. From the looks of it you got pretty hosed in WT with only 8 possible 21s. The strangely non proportional high SZs are a bit curious also. Some quick stats:

Average-- 9.6, 9.5, 11.8, 9.7, 10.0, 9.8, 9.7,
Std Dev (partial)-- 3.9, 3.8, 3.7, 3.4, 3.6, 3.3, 3.4
Values > 14-- 11, 8, 31, 8, 10, 11, 7
Values <10-- 61, 58, 34, 58, 57, 59, 53
Min-- 3, 3, 4, 3, 3, 3, 3
Max-- 19, 21, 19, 17, 21, 21, 21

Assuming you're building a tournament pipe the best of the bunch for tourney play imo are:

12 10 7 13 8 3 17
9 8 7 16 5 14 11
5 9 5 14 10 12 15
13 10 7 17 4 9 10
5 12 11 13 8 4 17
9 10 4 15 13 13 6
(Last one is one of those incredibly aggravating 1-pt-short-RUs though)
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

There has to be something worthwhile to do with this guy:

9.12.4.9.18.8.10
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Jugger wrote:
No 21/21s unfortunately.

Not sure why you feel you had some luck with Wit though. From the looks of it you got pretty hosed in WT with only 8 possible 21s. The strangely non proportional high SZs are a bit curious also. Some quick stats:

Average-- 9.6, 9.5, 11.8, 9.7, 10.0, 9.8, 9.7,
Std Dev (partial)-- 3.9, 3.8, 3.7, 3.4, 3.6, 3.3, 3.4
Values > 14-- 11, 8, 31, 8, 10, 11, 7
Values <10-- 61, 58, 34, 58, 57, 59, 53
Min-- 3, 3, 4, 3, 3, 3, 3
Max-- 19, 21, 19, 17, 21, 21, 21

Assuming you're building a tournament pipe the best of the bunch for tourney play imo are:

12 10 7 13 8 3 17
9 8 7 16 5 14 11
5 9 5 14 10 12 15
13 10 7 17 4 9 10
5 12 11 13 8 4 17
9 10 4 15 13 13 6
(Last one is one of those incredibly aggravating 1-pt-short-RUs though)


Aye, I agree. I made them AB/ST/AB/ST/AB/ST accordingly

Also liked the: 16 13 8 17 10 6 11
10 4 12 6 15 15 8
4 16 11 5 16 9 9
11 17 10 12 9 8 3
and finally
5 13 8 12 13 9 10

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One Armed Bandit wrote:
There has to be something worthwhile to do with this guy:

9.12.4.9.18.8.10


I saw him and thought LU.. just to see if comes back with anything special

did the same with 13 3 16 12 17 6 3 but made him Slasher

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I don't see the 9-10-4-15-13-13-6 guy as a ST, myself.

I suspect you are missing out on a good TP or WS with that other SZ 4.
9-12-4-9-18-8-10 --> 11-16-4-13-21-8-11 TP
9-12-4-9-18-8-10 --> 13-18-4-9-21-8-11 TP
9-12-4-9-18-8-10 --> 15-12-4-13-21-8-11 WS (+4/+4 visible on overview)
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So I'm not sure how I feel about the results.

120 rolls is 24 team sheets. I found maybe 10 I liked and plan on sending another 10 just hoping for some good bonuses.

Not more than that as the whole idea was to keep the arena clean.

That means 20 warriors max... would I have gotten that many with 24 team sheets?

I plan on doing the same thing in 84 mid december or so..

As well as buying 25 team sheets at the face in Jan.

I will compare the results directly, I feel I might not have been as lucky as I could have been, which may also mean the pool of quality is smaller making 'luck' more rare.

Perhaps I will know more in December

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One Armed Bandit wrote:
I don't see the 9-10-4-15-13-13-6 guy as a ST, myself.

I suspect you are missing out on a good TP or WS with that other SZ 4.
9-12-4-9-18-8-10 --> 11-16-4-13-21-8-11 TP
9-12-4-9-18-8-10 --> 13-18-4-9-21-8-11 TP
9-12-4-9-18-8-10 --> 15-12-4-13-21-8-11 WS (+4/+4 visible on overview)


The Waste made my list as one of the hopefuls I mentioned.. Though he ended

15 12 4 11 21 8 13

Probably learn slower, but since he'll likely be sandbagged anyway. Also since he's a waste I care more about what he learns (riposte) than how fast.

I've also wondered how he'd turn out as a Lunger 11 16 4 11 21 8 13 or even 11.12.4.13.21.8.15

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