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The_Mentors
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Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:36 pm |
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Got this roll-up back today. I ordered 10 and there a couple others to look at but this is the one that jumped out.
i'm thinking
12-5-6-9-14-5-19-----> 15-5-6-15-17-5-21 ab
any thoughts because I have 0 luck with these guys |
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Stik
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Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:41 pm |
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Very solid design on a great looking rollup. If it lives it will do well for you!
Another option might be 12-5-6-15-20-5-21 and you can bust the WL whenever, but it would make for a faster, better % bust-out once he maxes out in ADM for you. Good luck! |
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The Consortium
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Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:45 pm |
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Stik wrote: |
Very solid design on a great looking rollup. If it lives it will do well for you!
Another option might be 12-5-6-15-20-5-21 and you can bust the WL whenever, but it would make for a faster, better % bust-out once he maxes out in ADM for you. Good luck! |
we are with Stik on this.
Other alternative = 12-8-6-15-17-5-21 |
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The_Mentors
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Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:50 pm |
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bonus attack skills at 15 st or a little bit more life? hmmmm that is tough, they usually die on me |
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_Buri_
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Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:36 pm |
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I like Stik's model too, with the 20 WL. One extra Attack and Parry isn't going to make or break this AB, they're Attack monsters anyway and it should start Expert. Low CN doesn't seem to make that much difference either, unless you can get it up to double digits. Given the choice you put forth of ST or CN, I'd take ST. |
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Mannequin
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Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:51 pm |
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I sent the same roll-up in today.
I went 12-8-6-15-17-5-21 AB.
I'd rather have the CN than the higher WL. Those skills you get when you bust that 20 WL aren't going to help you much when he goes down in one or two shots in ADM. You really only need to get to 21 WL for the defense skills there. The rest of the WL trains can wait till later in it's development. |
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gentleben
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Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:13 pm |
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Mannequin wrote: |
I sent the same roll-up in today.
I went 12-8-6-15-17-5-21 AB.
I'd rather have the CN than the higher WL. Those skills you get when you bust that 20 WL aren't going to help you much when he goes down in one or two shots in ADM. You really only need to get to 21 WL for the defense skills there. The rest of the WL trains can wait till later in it's development. |
I like this design |
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The_Mentors
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Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:40 pm |
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so i'm still not sure on this one. thanks everyone, i'm going to sleep on it. I hate trying to run these bast****. I'm leaning towards a little con to maybe possibly live. |
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Assurnasirbanipal
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Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:20 am |
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The Consortium wrote: |
Stik wrote: |
Very solid design on a great looking rollup. If it lives it will do well for you!
Another option might be 12-5-6-15-20-5-21 and you can bust the WL whenever, but it would make for a faster, better % bust-out once he maxes out in ADM for you. Good luck! |
we are with Stik on this.
Other alternative = 12-8-6-15-17-5-21 |
Most days I'd probably do the Consortium's other alternative. But on those other days, I'd do some version of:
15-9-6-11-17-5-21 AB (possibly going lower str/higher con) |
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Longshot
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Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:26 pm |
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The_Mentors wrote: |
Got this roll-up back today. I ordered 10 and there a couple others to look at but this is the one that jumped out.
i'm thinking
12-5-6-9-14-5-19-----> 15-5-6-15-17-5-21 ab
any thoughts because I have 0 luck with these guys |
I wouldn't change a thing. |
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Street_Legal
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Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:00 pm |
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Mannequin wrote: |
I sent the same roll-up in today.
I went 12-8-6-15-17-5-21 AB.
I'd rather have the CN than the higher WL. Those skills you get when you bust that 20 WL aren't going to help you much when he goes down in one or two shots in ADM. You really only need to get to 21 WL for the defense skills there. The rest of the WL trains can wait till later in it's development. |
It's so few and far between to get an AB to start with a 15+ in WT & WL it almost has to cry "Give me some CN so I might survive!" As has been said in the past even if it does get hosed with little damage, your likely only a train away from normal in that case, the AB is least effected by damage rating than any other offensive class. All those crit attacks make up the damage differential!
I probably would go the way of Mannequin the Murderer! |
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