Dead TC's

Grandmaster Poster Joined: Jul 18, 2005 Posts: 939

I know, I know.. this has probably been brought up a hundred times but guess what? I haven't seen it so here it goes again.

Why is RSI punishing dead TC's and giving Dead TV's the benefits by letting them stick around? During the TC fight I should have been rooting for the other guy!! It should be the other way around if your going to punish warriors, hell at least give the TC the award of staying.

Think about this. Lets say you TC Apprentice, or Inits or hell even Adepts. The tourneys normally go around 13 rounds thats 7FE. If you were timed thats: Apprentice TC: 11FE, Initiate TC: 17FE, Adept TC: 27 FE

So an Apprentice AND Initiate TC is losing out on possible awards in Adepts, Champions, and Challengers.

Adept TC is missing out on Champion and Challengers.

I think I am missing the point that RSI is trying to make here? Its not like any of the dead TC's have won any awards or anything. They don't get potions put on them, or bonus' added. They simply come back to life. They don't have an advantage over others like a living TC that possibly can put a prize on itself. I am confused as to why they are automatically graduating these warriors? Do they see that as a bonus or a prize?

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:21 am

To try and keep this short.

the reason is that when the dead tourney was started the main play in the game was for arenas not tournies. Back then it was a help to get your warrior to immortal before death. Remember this was beck before managers received 15 pages of mini's in the adm arenas. With the slant of the game now it is really not a great thing to TC the dead.

I know some of us receive more then 30 pages of adm but the point is that the game has changed it's focus and the dead tourney is still stuck in the "good old days mode"

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 4:55 pm

TripwireDuel wrote:

I know, I know.. this has probably been brought up a hundred times but guess what? I haven't seen it so here it goes again.

Why is RSI punishing dead TC's and giving Dead TV's the benefits by letting them stick around? During the TC fight I should have been rooting for the other guy!! It should be the other way around if your going to punish warriors, hell at least give the TC the award of staying.

Think about this. Lets say you TC Apprentice, or Inits or hell even Adepts. The tourneys normally go around 13 rounds thats 7FE. If you were timed thats: Apprentice TC: 11FE, Initiate TC: 17FE, Adept TC: 27 FE

So an Apprentice AND Initiate TC is losing out on possible awards in Adepts, Champions, and Challengers.

Adept TC is missing out on Champion and Challengers.

I think I am missing the point that RSI is trying to make here? Its not like any of the dead TC's have won any awards or anything. They don't get potions put on them, or bonus' added. They simply come back to life. They don't have an advantage over others like a living TC that possibly can put a prize on itself. I am confused as to why they are automatically graduating these warriors? Do they see that as a bonus or a prize?

I couldn't agree more. There was a time when this "go directly to ADM, do not pass Go, do not collect $200" was a reward. Not anymore. It is a massive penalty and needs to be updated to reflect the times. Dead TC's should have the OPTION to go to ADM or to stay in basic.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:25 pm

Ah...remember that tourney when the Dead TVs got their favorites when they got resurected in basic? That was like a double slap in the face to the Dead TCs as the Dead TVs got an advantage they didn't.

Grandmaster Poster Joined: Jul 18, 2005 Posts: 939

Has anyone sent a serious letter or requested that they take a look at this? Even though its obvious to everyone here maybe they are unaware of how bad of a deal it really is for these TC's.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:47 pm

People have complained every year. And I expect it to change one of these days.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:49 pm

If you really wanted to turn the tables on dead tourneys, you could send all TVs to ADM and TCs can stay! Twisted Evil

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:23 am

Speaking as an old school manager who gets all of 4 pages of ADM mini-overviews.

I like the good old days when people actually played the game and didn't just play tourneys.

Yeah the prize should probably be changed to give you the option, but then again why should RSI change it when said warrior will only fight tourneys in the foreseeable future. How is that making RSI any more money by making the change? As in any business, that is what truely drives things to change.

Visionist

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:46 am

Visionst01 wrote:

Speaking as an old school manager who gets all of 4 pages of ADM mini-overviews.

I like the good old days when people actually played the game and didn't just play tourneys.

Yeah the prize should probably be changed to give you the option, but then again why should RSI change it when said warrior will only fight tourneys in the foreseeable future. How is that making RSI any more money by making the change? As in any business, that is what truely drives things to change.

Visionist

Another old school group reporting in - agreeing with Visionist - and suggesting that BOTH TC & TV from the dead go direct to ADM.

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:30 am

Quote:

eah the prize should probably be changed to give you the option, but then again why should RSI change it when said warrior will only fight tourneys in the foreseeable future. How is that making RSI any more money by making the change?

Because the choice is either running them in tournaments vs. not running them at all. Who brings warriors back from the dead because they actually want to run them in the arena again? That's crazy talk!

Grandmaster Poster Joined: Jul 18, 2005 Posts: 939

Managerr wrote:

Quote:

eah the prize should probably be changed to give you the option, but then again why should RSI change it when said warrior will only fight tourneys in the foreseeable future. How is that making RSI any more money by making the change?

Because the choice is either running them in tournaments vs. not running them at all. Who brings warriors back from the dead because they actually want to run them in the arena again? That's crazy talk!

Exactly, my Dead TC from this tourney will never see the light of day again. A 9 Will Striker that could have made some noise in the rest of the tourneys up to ADM, but then would have surely been retired. They went from having a warrior that was going to be run in every tourney probably for a few years, to having 0.00 from a warrior who is now retired.

Grandmaster Poster Joined: Jul 18, 2005 Posts: 939

The Consortium wrote:

Visionst01 wrote:

Speaking as an old school manager who gets all of 4 pages of ADM mini-overviews.

I like the good old days when people actually played the game and didn't just play tourneys.

Yeah the prize should probably be changed to give you the option, but then again why should RSI change it when said warrior will only fight tourneys in the foreseeable future. How is that making RSI any more money by making the change? As in any business, that is what truely drives things to change.

Visionist

Another old school group reporting in - agreeing with Visionist - and suggesting that BOTH TC & TV from the dead go direct to ADM.

And that would probably lose RSI massive dollars. I know during the dead tourneys if this were the case I would probably only run 1 guy, the one that is hugely bonus'd and only good in ADM+. If they made it so you can get them alive again and run in regular arenas they would continue to get my lucrative dead business.

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 2:12 pm

Dead TCs, IMO, should receive their resurrection to regular arena play AND THEN immortality until they reach ADM. Would that not be 'the best of both worlds?' After all, who is to deny that these warriors deserve immortality? This would ensure RSI receive their 'tourney TC prize' of mo money and that the managers would be able to continue to fight their warriors in tourneys.

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 2:32 pm

[quote="TripwireDuel"Exactly, my Dead TC from this tourney will never see the light of day again. A 9 Will Striker that could have made some noise in the rest of the tourneys up to ADM, but then would have surely been retired. They went from having a warrior that was going to be run in every tourney probably for a few years, to having 0.00 from a warrior who is now retired.[/quote]

No they get $50 to 100 from you buying new team roll-ups trying to get another similar ST to run in the next tourney. If they let him stay in basic tourneys it would take them 2 to 4 years to get the same amount of money.

Visionist

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 2:43 pm

Lord_Xiang wrote:

Dead TCs, IMO, should receive their resurrection to regular arena play AND THEN immortality until they reach ADM. Would that not be 'the best of both worlds?' After all, who is to deny that these warriors deserve immortality? This would ensure RSI receive their 'tourney TC prize' of mo money and that the managers would be able to continue to fight their warriors in tourneys.

Mixing immortal warriors in basic arenas with non immortal warriors would be a HUGE mistake. RSI would loose the money they make from people like myself and the Consortium who enjoy basic play.
Because the 1st time an immortal tourney warrior pops in after split, going 10/10/10 and kills one of my warriors. One I have been playing for a year or more in the arena, I would have a fit and quit. Then they loose the $10.75 I pay each turn plus the money I might spend in tourneys.

Visionist