Need some advice

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:18 pm

Just got 5 brand new roll ups and other than lots of big size Ive noticed several of the roll ups have low Wit or low Will. Any advice other than the DA?

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:19 pm

I should probably give you an example:

14-11-18-3-8-7-9

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:26 pm

Unless you want to pull a Consortium, that one's pretty much an auto-DA.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:40 pm

I have found many designs that work fine with low wit or low will. It is difficult to find ones that work if both of those are low.

Since you only got 5, and you have already listed one, why not list the other for for us to see?

-Kellumbo

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:46 pm

DeathJester wrote:

I should probably give you an example:

14-11-18-3-8-7-9

That one is pretty ugly. I don't like to DA, but this one might go. I might play with it on Terrablodd - go 17-11-18-9-9-7-11. The only real shot at anything interesting is if you pulled awesome damage. Still won't win much, but could hunt defensives.

A few general statements - this is fairly basic - I'm not sure how much you know.

Low will tends to lead you towards low endurance burn styles - striker, piker, TP, AB, PR - some will say Basher. Avoid lunger, plunger, waste, and slasher. If the other numbers are solid, low will warriors can still be very good, you just have to be aware of endurance.

Low wit usually brings thoughts of scum or bricks. Essentially if you are dumb and can't win based on skills your looking to physicals to win the day. Scum TPs are usually high str, high con, high will - wit and speed not needed. Put him in armor and take a beating. Bricks are offensives that are sort of similar, but are offensives who hope to swing back (hard) once you begin to tire.

The problem with the guy you listed is that he lacks both wit and will, but a brickish or scummy version would be:
14-11-18-3-8-7-9 = 15-17-18-3-14-7-10 which you might burn to = 17-19-18-5-15-7-11
The biggest problem with this is that a 15 is an ok will to raise stats with, but not great, you won't be hitting any third stat trains - and might miss on #2 a few times. But a basher like this could dent a few helms.

This is, of course, only a very broad statement on the issue. If you want specific comments on specific warriors - send a note.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:47 pm

Kellumbo wrote:

I have found many designs that work fine with low wit or low will. It is difficult to find ones that work if both of those are low.

Since you only got 5, and you have already listed one, why not list the other for for us to see?

-Kellumbo

By 5 I ment 5 sheets, so 25 warriors in all. But I will go ahead and list the rest of this sheet:

14-11-18-3-8-7-9 (already listed)
9-9-18-11-3-9-11
10-3-13-13-11-10-10
9-10-8-11-12-10-10
9-13-9-12-5-12-10

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:53 pm

DeathJester wrote:

Kellumbo wrote:

I have found many designs that work fine with low wit or low will. It is difficult to find ones that work if both of those are low.

Since you only got 5, and you have already listed one, why not list the other for for us to see?

-Kellumbo

By 5 I ment 5 sheets, so 25 warriors in all. But I will go ahead and list the rest of this sheet:

14-11-18-3-8-7-9 (already listed)
9-9-18-11-3-9-11
10-3-13-13-11-10-10
9-10-8-11-12-10-10
9-13-9-12-5-12-10

These are just off the cuff, I've not run them through Terrablood since I'm still reading my tourney.

1) 14-11-18-3-8-7-9 --> DA
2) 9-9-18-11-3-9-11 --> 11-9-18-17-9-9-11 ST
3) 10-3-13-13-11-10-10 --> 11-3-13-17-17-12-11 ST
4) 9-10-8-11-12-10-10 --> 11-10-8-17-17-10-11 LU
5) 9-13-9-12-5-12-10 --> 13-13-9-17-9-12-11 ST/PS

Nice arena team!

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:54 pm

DeathJester wrote:

Kellumbo wrote:

I have found many designs that work fine with low wit or low will. It is difficult to find ones that work if both of those are low.

Since you only got 5, and you have already listed one, why not list the other for for us to see?

-Kellumbo

By 5 I ment 5 sheets, so 25 warriors in all. But I will go ahead and list the rest of this sheet:

14-11-18-3-8-7-9 (already listed)
9-9-18-11-3-9-11
10-3-13-13-11-10-10
9-10-8-11-12-10-10
9-13-9-12-5-12-10

This is actually not a bad sheet for an arena team.

#1 already done.
#2 9-9-18-11-3-9-11 = 11-9-18-17-9-9-11 check Terrablodd for damage chances before putting last two into str. Striker
#3 10-3-13-13-11-10-10 = 11-3-13-17-17-10-11 Two more points to play with. Check str for damage chance. Probably speed or deftness. Str/Sl/B
#4 9-10-8-11-12-10-10 = 11-10-8-17-17-10-11 Lunger/plunger - could be just about anything not named Aimed Blow.
#5 9-13-9-12-5-12-10 = 11-15-9-17-9-12-11 I like this as a piker.

4 17 wits and two 17-17 combos. Not bad at all for an arena.

ArchMaster Poster Joined: Jul 18, 2006 Posts: 1170

DeathJester wrote:

Kellumbo wrote:

I have found many designs that work fine with low wit or low will. It is difficult to find ones that work if both of those are low.

Since you only got 5, and you have already listed one, why not list the other for for us to see?

-Kellumbo

By 5 I ment 5 sheets, so 25 warriors in all. But I will go ahead and list the rest of this sheet:

14-11-18-3-8-7-9 (already listed)
9-9-18-11-3-9-11
10-3-13-13-11-10-10
9-10-8-11-12-10-10
9-13-9-12-5-12-10

Well, that makes a big difference. The very first thing I look at when I get a new warrior is his Wit, followed my his will. On this sheet, 4 warriors can all reach a 17 Wit (and 2 of those can also hit a 17 Will)! Personally, I would definitely run this set of warriors. I'd DA the first one and definitely play the last 4. Personally, I find this set of warriors a pretty good one and would play it without a second thought.

ArchMaster Poster Joined: Apr 15, 2004 Posts: 2988

Quote:

14-11-18-3-8-7-9

If I was going to run this guy, I would make him:

17-17-18-5-9-7-11 BA

I would bet on him going 50% on physicals alone. That being said, he probably belongs in the Dark Arena.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:11 pm

DeathJester wrote:

Just got 5 brand new roll ups and other than lots of big size Ive noticed several of the roll ups have low Wit or low Will. Any advice other than the DA?

I would only add that if your Primus bound one of the threads I read recently said Primus had a tendancy towards big guys. Don't know if that matters or not.

Sincerely Purple Sage

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:17 pm

lol It will be awhile before I need to worry about Primus, my "oldest' warrior has 15 fights

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:19 pm

It might not be great for the W/L column, but it will be fun.

14-11-18-3-8-7-9 >> 20-17-18-3-8-7-11 BA
APA + F / MA + open
Run 10-1-10, aim for vitals.
Train ST until you get a bump, then CN, then WL.
DA after about 10 or so fights.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:24 pm

DeathJester wrote:

I should probably give you an example:

14-11-18-3-8-7-9

Win with him as a 14-17-18-3-14-7-11 TP.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:38 pm

14-11-18-3-8-7-9-->16-17-18-3-14-7-9 BA

9-9-18-11-3-9-11-->9-9-18-17-7-9-15 PR

10-3-13-13-11-10-10-->11-3-13-17-17-10-13 LU/SL or (QS BA)

9-10-8-11-12-10-10-->11-10-8-17-17-10-11 PL/OTP

9-13-9-12-5-12-10-->11-13-9-17-7-12-15 PR