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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:22 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

my first thought is 12-9-3-17-17-13-13 LU/PL thoughts??

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:00 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Oooh, size 3!! Congrats on that! Your lunger is certainly solid. If you want to think long-term major bustout you could go burner:

11-9-3-19-19-13-10 and let him loose for an ADM bustout. Tough to wait on that though and deal with possible little damage at 11 ST...

13-9-3-17-17-14-11 LU/SL/ST is likely what I would do.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:44 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Stik wrote:
Oooh, size 3!! Congrats on that! Your lunger is certainly solid. If you want to think long-term major bustout you could go burner:

11-9-3-19-19-13-10 and let him loose for an ADM bustout. Tough to wait on that though and deal with possible little damage at 11 ST...

13-9-3-17-17-14-11 LU/SL/ST is likely what I would do.




Ditto Stik's design

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 1:46 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Stik wrote:
Oooh, size 3!! Congrats on that! Your lunger is certainly solid. If you want to think long-term major bustout you could go burner:

11-9-3-19-19-13-10 and let him loose for an ADM bustout. Tough to wait on that though and deal with possible little damage at 11 ST...

13-9-3-17-17-14-11 LU/SL/ST is likely what I would do.


Personally, we would probably take the burner LU route. Would love working with this guy. However, since we are not so ADM prone anymore (and many out there are like us) we probably make it a 11-9-3-17-17-16-11 SL.

GREAT RU. Kudos!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 5:33 am Reply with quoteBack to top

For me, 13-10-3-17-17-13-11, likely Lunger.

I could even say 14-10-3, but I'd prefer to have two shots at normal damage without burning as opposed to one (initial roll, then train to 14 if it rolls little damage)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:46 am Reply with quoteBack to top

9-9-3-13-13-13-10 -> 15-10-3-15-17-13-11 WS/PL. If I were only interested in arena play I'd look at the WS. Just a different take. Likely it becomes the double 19 in my stable.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:07 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I went 13-9-3-17-17-14-11 LU. I went with the extra strength to avoid little damage, but it didn't matter. Currently trying to learn his last attack skill in ADM before I can train his ST to 17.

If I were to get it again, I think I'd make it a PS! Good luck with it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:33 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

9-9-3-13-13-13-10 -----> 14-9-3-17-17-13-11 L/PL

I was torn o 13 ST 14 P or 1 ST 13 SP. I went safe with the 14 ST!

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Street_Legal wrote:
9-9-3-13-13-13-10 -----> 14-9-3-17-17-13-11 L/PL

I was torn o 13 ST 14 P or 1 ST 13 SP. I went safe with the 14 ST!


Looking at it again I would likely do this as well. Getting one more decise skill isn't nearly as important as making sure (as best you can) you don't start off hosed with little damage.

Funny thing is, the Tblood generator shows a 40/60 shot for little/normal for the 13 ST version and 50/50 for the 14 ST version! A little bit of skewed probabilities there!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:08 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Since I'm a micro-manager, I don't run across many sz 3's -- they're the proverbial unicorns of fable!

That said, I've had at least four or five in the past six or seven years. None survived basic. And two of those were Slashers (with st=13 or less) and one did normal damage, the other did good damage.

The other two were hosed when I went for LU or TP. Yeah, TP; I was going for an offensive TP and this roll-up was promising EXCEPT for the 'does little damage' statement.

Anyway, I think that certain styles seem to overcome the lack of size because they're not important to it, just as some seem to benefit (or hurt) because of it, like ST or BA. I just DA'd a large PS who did tremendous damage. It wouldn't surprise me to find out that LUs have a narrow range of size-appropriate numbers to work with.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:12 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Our opinion on sz3 is somewhat different. We think they work well with all styles, but feel taking advantage of the added sz Defensive and Parry skills (and decreased Init skills) makes them least optimal as pure offensives and most optimal as dodgy or parry styles. This also is emphasized in the damage-doing as their sz makes it more difficult for them to do big damage.
Again, though, to repeat, we will take a sz3 at any style, any day.

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