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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:55 am Reply with quoteBack to top

A warrior on a tournament team.

Yeah! A 21 wit!
The low will seems to limit him to low endurance styles.
Low deftness seems to eliminate AB, PR and, probably, TP.

I was thinking either
13-13-14-21-8-11-3 Basher
or
9-13-14-21-9-12-5 Striker

But both designs have poor endurance, which is a bit unappealing for the basher. But either design starts at either 2 or 3 attack skills as a striker. With that endurance, just looking at someone in plate will make him collapse in exhaustion. Striker setups with con make me think Piker, but wow are those bases ugly. (-2 Parry on a "parry style?!")

It seems like a 21 witter who has a shot at great damage shoud be runnable. Any ideas?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:54 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Missing a point on the original setup (size or con, I'm guessing)

If I was going to try to salvage this as a tourney warrior, my design is likely:
11-14-14-21-9-11-3 L (Using style to mitigate the lack of skills)

For your striker design, it might be worth going piker instead (Pikers can be bonused in attack)

(Personally, I'd likely create a basher and when it doesn't roll well enough, it'd never get run)
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:03 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Wow! That has got to be the ugliest 21 Witter I have ever seen!

Assur's design is the best I can come up with too. With the 3 WILL and 3 DFT combo, I'd be inclined to be weird and make a 3 DFT TP or something along those lines.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:09 am Reply with quoteBack to top

9-13-14-16-3-11-3 --> 9-13-14-21-7-12-7 or your 9-13-14-21-9-12-5 design. I'd likely go ST with these designs.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:15 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Like Assur previously mentioned, those numbers add up to 69 pts...

Taking those original 69 pts, I make this a SL/BA:

13-13-14-21-8-11-3, using whatever weapons his ST/SZ were suited for and ignoring the DF suitability shortfall. This guy isn't going to have a ton of endurance no matter how you design him, but getting the ST to 13 at least gets you to the next damage bracket on the chart (-R+) instead of running with (G+). If you nail down Poor/Great, then this guy is a lot more runnable than Poor/Good. I can't see turning this guy into a ST due to his abysmally low initial attack rating no matter how you design him.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:04 am Reply with quoteBack to top

again, you will need to adjust for the missing point but....

9-13-14-16-3-11-4 --> 9-13-14-21-9-11-7 TP/PS/ST

EDITED after Nomads correction post

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:39 am Reply with quoteBack to top

The missing point should be a starting deftness of 4, not 3. It makes a point to get to 5 more likely.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:56 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Dark Arena honestly .. that 21 wit is like a succubus ... its just drawing you in so it can suck away your life force. ( money )
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:52 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

FLOYD1 wrote:
Dark Arena honestly .. that 21 wit is like a succubus ... its just drawing you in so it can suck away your life force. ( money )


Totally agree. I've run a handful of guys like this in the past few years. Depressingly addictive --- hope squashed repeatedly. Then, just before the ink on the Dark Arena paperwork has a chance to dry, a fantastic win with multiple crits to keep me hoping --- Let It Go!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:23 am Reply with quoteBack to top

DON'T YOU DARE THROW THIS AWAY!
Listen not to the naysayers!
13-13-14-21-7-11-5 BA
will win a lot and make you proud.


Some managers can only run 21-21-x-21-21-21-21 warriors; the good ones can .......

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:36 am Reply with quoteBack to top

The Consortium wrote:
DON'T YOU DARE THROW THIS AWAY!
Listen not to the naysayers!
13-13-14-21-7-11-5 BA
will win a lot and make you proud.


Okay, the original set of numbers added up to 69. I was only adding 14 points to that. I honestly didn't see any way to get a 7 WL with a 13ST and 13CN without sacrificing DF to 3 or 4, and I wouldn't run that.

I still wouldn't run this thing.... but I can now see how it might work... if the matchups all run your way. Smile Good luck with that!

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