Joined: May 07, 2012
Posts: 89
Location: Austin, TX
Posted:
Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:33 pm
Of course this is screaming AB, recently buried 4 or 5 of these guys but Im still compelled to try again. Using those last 3 points is painful, with a 3 cn and wl, don't think it matters other than the skills from a 5 wl, throwing 2 in st gets me an epee atleast that something, Still I guess it should be 6-3-15-21-5-13-21. Any suggestions would be helpful.
Did think about dropping it to 17/21 wt/df but the gain isnt really worth it.
York
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Posted:
Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:12 pm
I think you're dead on (no pun intended) with what you need to do with the numbers. Odds are that this guy won't survive the basic tourney gauntlet, but you don't get rollups like that all the time, even with spending a lot on them. You've got to make the 21/21 and hope for good rolls and some luck. I had one nearly identical recently, died in inits.
Use daggers, SH or EP with the strength hit, they'll still work fine. If it lives long enough I'd probably try the SC later on. I've had several of my AB's get the SH for a fave so I never discount it right away any more! Good luck with this one!
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Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:26 pm
I think I'd put that point you used for ST into WL. It'll actually give you 3 more endurance points (48 versus 45 ) plus you can train it to 7 and get a DEC skill and a 5%-ish better shot at other trains. Odds tate you'll probably get good damage anyways and the EP is almost suited (7 ST). Perfect for EP light, DA(or DAs) medium, SC heavy.
As stated this guy is screaming to die but one never knows!
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Posted:
Wed May 01, 2013 12:15 am
While this would be a lovely aimer to graduate, especially despite the overwhelming death odds, it doesn't seem the best plan to us.
Therefore
8-3-15-21-7-13-17 ST gets our vote
our alternatives:
7-3-15-21-7-14-17 ST, or even AB
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Den Advanced Master Poster
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Location: Osceola, WI
Posted:
Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:40 pm
I recently pulled this roll-up, noticed quite a few have posted this one over the last few years. Nobody has ever followed-up noting if they had any luck. Anyone get this guy out?
I am leaning towards the 5-3-15-21-9-14-17 ST. The AB would be a dandy, but I feel that style is so overplayed it makes me ill.
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Posted:
Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:19 am
Den wrote:
I recently pulled this roll-up, noticed quite a few have posted this one over the last few years. Nobody has ever followed-up noting if they had any luck. Anyone get this guy out?
I am leaning towards the 5-3-15-21-9-14-17 ST. The AB would be a dandy, but I feel that style is so overplayed it makes me ill.
You need to join our KAA - Kill All Aimers - Club!
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york Expert Poster
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Posted:
Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:59 am
Den,
Just to let you know, he had a very non-descript life, that is to say, he died in his first outing.
Just like 2 others since then. I look at the options and have to try. At present, I have one very close to this sz 11 so it started with wl 10, survived the Rooks and made it to rnd 10.
Since returning, I have used this rollup and several similar to beef up my Dead Tourney Roster..
Think I really should consider some help, maybe KAA could send me a life line..............
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Posted:
Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:08 am
york wrote:
Den,
Just to let you know, he had a very non-descript life, that is to say, he died in his first outing.
Just like 2 others since then. I look at the options and have to try. At present, I have one very close to this sz 11 so it started with wl 10, survived the Rooks and made it to rnd 10.
Since returning, I have used this rollup and several similar to beef up my Dead Tourney Roster..
Think I really should consider some help, maybe KAA could send me a life line..............
"'Tis better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all ..."
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OR
the antithesis
KILL ALL AIMERS
York aka Tolbin
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Assurnasirbanipal ArchMaster Poster
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Location: San Jose, CA
Posted:
Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:26 am
Den wrote:
I recently pulled this roll-up, noticed quite a few have posted this one over the last few years. Nobody has ever followed-up noting if they had any luck. Anyone get this guy out?
Yes, they 'can' get out. But the more common result is not...
I've heard of a 3-3-... guy getting out.
I got out a 9-6-16-21-5-5-21.
The key is taking very few losses. (My AB took 3 losses in rookies, 3 in the arena)
My own list of dead similar AB's is much larger (as is the rest of the population).
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Posted:
Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:48 am
I went 5-3-15-21-3-16-21 AB, and it survived Rooks and Apps so far. Didn't make my roster for the Inits at this summer's FtF.
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Posted:
Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:44 pm
I went 7-3-15-21-3-14-21 AB and named him Dead Duck... 3 fights later, he was just that!
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Den Advanced Master Poster
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Posted:
Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:49 am
Doesn't sound like a great long-term investment, but going to be a fun ride while it is there.
I went with the 21-21 AB, just couldn't pass it up even though I loathe the style.
Studcraft is taking him to the F2F for me....which should be the kiss of death for certain.
Thanks for the replies and feedback fellow nerds.
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Posted:
Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:18 pm
Den wrote:
Doesn't sound like a great long-term investment, but going to be a fun ride while it is there.
I went with the 21-21 AB, just couldn't pass it up even though I loathe the style.
Studcraft is taking him to the F2F for me....which should be the kiss of death for certain.
Thanks for the replies and feedback fellow nerds.
If you would be willing to provide the name, we FTFers would be glad to help Studcraft speed his final demise along. (You might even get a nice rollup. )
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Degralor Expert Poster
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Posted:
Sat Jul 11, 2015 1:54 pm
6-3-15-21-9-13-17 ST is what I would do.
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Den Advanced Master Poster
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Posts: 362
Location: Osceola, WI
Posted:
Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:02 am
The Consortium wrote:
Den wrote:
Doesn't sound like a great long-term investment, but going to be a fun ride while it is there.
I went with the 21-21 AB, just couldn't pass it up even though I loathe the style.
Studcraft is taking him to the F2F for me....which should be the kiss of death for certain.
Thanks for the replies and feedback fellow nerds.
If you would be willing to provide the name, we FTFers would be glad to help Studcraft speed his final demise along. (You might even get a nice rollup. )
Well, you "FTFers" did the job. Ricky Clever died on his very first fight in the Rookies tourney, so I guess I have to hope for that nice rollup.
I'm thinking of another name for you "FTF'ers" that coincidentally starts with the same letter and ends with the same 3....
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