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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:54 am Reply with quoteBack to top

We Consortiumites are interested in your RANKING opinion of these fighters. What is the order that you would keep them or run them in DM (not ADM) tournaments? (They are NOT in any particular order, nor in Consortium order.)

(a)15-5-6-17-21-13-7 SL
Bonused dmg
Good endu/great dmg
(b)11-19-10-9-21-3-11 TP
Mode
Great endu/good dmg
(c)8-8-5-21-21-10-11 SL
Bonused endu, ambi
Good endu/norm dmg
(d)8-6-16-21-17-3-13 ST
Ambi
Poor endu/good dmg
(e)11-9-13-17-21-4-9 SL
Mode
Good/good
(f)14-9-8-17-9-16-11 ST
Bonused rip, defense, damage
+2/4 rip, +1/4 defense
Poor endu/great dmg
(g)4-11-6-21-9-12-21 AB
Ambi (X attack)
Little endu/little dmg

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:01 am Reply with quoteBack to top

The Consortium wrote:
We Consortiumites are interested in your RANKING opinion of these fighters. What is the order that you would keep them or run them in DM (not ADM) tournaments? (They are NOT in any particular order, nor in Consortium order.)

(a)15-5-6-17-21-13-7 SL
Bonused dmg
Good endu/great dmg
(b)11-19-10-9-21-3-11 TP
Mode
Great endu/good dmg
(c)8-8-5-21-21-10-11 SL
Bonused endu, ambi
Good endu/norm dmg
(d)8-6-16-21-17-3-13 ST
Ambi
Poor endu/good dmg
(e)11-9-13-17-21-4-9 SL
Mode
Good/good
(f)14-9-8-17-9-16-11 ST
Bonused rip, defense, damage
+2/4 rip, +1/4 defense
Good endu/great dmg
(g)4-11-6-21-9-12-21 AB
Ambi (X attack)
Little endu/little dmg


Can you add their FE please Mr C

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:53 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Is this a trick question? Most of them look like very nice warriors.

My order:
a. runs in tourneys until his learning becomes poor
c. likely runs in tourneys throughout basic, unless his learning is just terrible
d. another tourney striker
e. expectations are lower on this one, but still makes my list
b. Only low because I have tons of scum already and this one looks much like the others I have lined up for a chance to run
g. wouldn't fight this guy in a tourney, but definitely run him in the arena and hopefully to graduation.
f. This guy is rolled as a basher on my stable. If he came back with those physicals, he'd get to run in tourneys, too. I do not enjoy strikers, so for me, this guy gets put last, though after seeing his rolls, he deserves to be much higher on this list than I put him.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:32 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

No tricks - zero FE. (brand new)

Looking for opinions/advice.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

c,a,f,d,g,b,e

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:05 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

(a)15-5-6-17-21-13-7 SL
Bonused dmg
Good endu/great dmg


(c)8-8-5-21-21-10-11 SL
Bonused endu, ambi
Good endu/norm dmg


(d)8-6-16-21-17-3-13 ST
Ambi
Poor endu/good dmg


(f)14-9-8-17-9-16-11 ST
Bonused rip, defense, damage
+2/4 rip, +1/4 defense
Good endu/great dmg

(b)11-19-10-9-21-3-11 TP
Mode
Great endu/good dmg

(e)11-9-13-17-21-4-9 SL
Mode
Good/good

(g)4-11-6-21-9-12-21 AB
Ambi (X attack)
Little endu/little dmg

I really like A.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:48 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I wonder if this guy, listed, is a mistake? How did he possibly get good endurance with 207 endurance points(14+9*9=207 or 23*9=207)?


(f)14-9-8-17-9-16-11 ST
Bonused rip, defense, damage
+2/4 rip, +1/4 defense
Good endu/great dmg

The bonuses with the above average CN, for a ST, means he could be a good "Counter Puncher/Attacker". If he learns DEF, RIP, and ATT he could catch offensives off guard with the right strategy for you, as they walk into your trap with their basic strategy which is what your strategy will be set for! Geat damage is a plus! I'd rank him between (B) and (C) I just put him here as I assume he has Normal or Poor endurance not good! Or you have his stats bass-ackwards somewheres!

(D) Despite the 3 SP this could be quite the dangerous ST! Tripwire's post on his TC Strikers looked fairly similar to this guy! With him being Ambi that gives him 11 ATT, by my count, and even with the SP issue he's 8 DEC. If he's bonused in DEC he could pass the 10/10 threshold that most look for in a TC threat. If he had received Great Damage he'd be even scarier!

(B) Other than Manager few squeeze more out of a good TP than yourself. The points being in WT(9) rather than SP(3) REALLY help this guy especially later when he shouldn't fall to far behind with learns; especially PAR and DEF.


(C) You caught quite a break with normal damage at 8/5 and with the double-21 could be dangerous, despite SLs lacking in tourneys lately (few are probably designed with "A" roll-ups, like this, being a factor) he should be quite the "Anti-AB" since slash attacks are easier to parry but harder to dodge! At the very least he should make quite the "wingman" for (D) and (B)! Get those pesky ABs out of the way for your STs and TPs!

(A) Is not totally impressive but the Great Damage makes him more than just your basic "possible TV". The right learns will help .... the wrong ones make him a basic TV type again.


(E) Not impressed being mode and Good/Good; a little above average had he received Great Damage.

(G) The damage AND endurance are a problem! I have a similar guy who went 0-2, no Fools or BADD tourney in his run. He is 5-9-7-21-9-12-21 POOR Endu/Little Damage. I caught a break with less endurance points, 126, then yours,135, but a better rating. One of his losses was a 12 minute fight against a TP that he hit 15-20 times. Only learned 1 ATT and 1 DEF. I'd be curious to see if you can win a fight with him since I couldn't with mine. Of course this was about 2 years into my comeback but I still don't think with what I've learned since I could win with it!


I ordered them, minus (F), in the order that I like them. I rank (F) after (B) and just a shade above (C).

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:02 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The Consortium wrote:
c,a,f,d,g,b,c


Which one of those "c's" is really e?

Looking at Assur's ordering wondering which one of us is clueless about tourney warriors? We differ GREATLY! I'm guessing me since I've been "sans tourney" since October 31st, 2009! Cool

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:41 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Street_Legal wrote:
The Consortium wrote:
c,a,f,d,g,b,c


Which one of those "c's" is really e?

Looking at Assur's ordering wondering which one of us is clueless about tourney warriors? We differ GREATLY! I'm guessing me since I've been "sans tourney" since October 31st, 2009! Cool


error - poor
error - last is e
corrected
thanks for the analysis and the catches, Street
(gonna fire that publicist for all those errors!) Cry

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:47 am Reply with quoteBack to top

The Consortium wrote:
Street_Legal wrote:
The Consortium wrote:
c,a,f,d,g,b,c


Which one of those "c's" is really e?

Looking at Assur's ordering wondering which one of us is clueless about tourney warriors? We differ GREATLY! I'm guessing me since I've been "sans tourney" since October 31st, 2009! Cool


error - poor
error - last is e
corrected
thanks for the analysis and the catches, Street
(gonna fire that publicist for all those errors!) Cry

P.S. We taught Manager everything he knows about scum! We think perhaps we are #1.


Yeah but I don't need him calling me a noob again so I just bit down hard and spit it out!

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:51 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Street_Legal wrote:
The Consortium wrote:
c,a,f,d,g,b,c


Which one of those "c's" is really e?

Looking at Assur's ordering wondering which one of us is clueless about tourney warriors? We differ GREATLY! I'm guessing me since I've been "sans tourney" since October 31st, 2009! Cool


Or perhaps my anti-striker bias comes through in a rating system like this
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:09 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I will rank them how I think they will do in rookies only..

#1 15-5-6-17-21-13-7 SL
Bonused dmg
Good endu/great dmg

#2 11-19-10-9-21-3-11 TP
Mode
Great endu/good dmg

#6 - 8-8-5-21-21-10-11 SL
Bonused endu, ambi
Good endu/norm dmg

#3 - 8-6-16-21-17-3-13 ST
Ambi
Poor endu/good dmg

#7 - 11-9-13-17-21-4-9 SL
Mode
Good/good

#4 - 14-9-8-17-9-16-11 ST
Bonused rip, defense, damage
+2/4 rip, +1/4 defense
Poor endu/great dmg

#5 - 4-11-6-21-9-12-21 AB
Ambi (X attack)
Little endu/little dmg

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:51 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Best to worst for me:

(g)4-11-6-21-9-12-21 AB
Ambi (X attack)
Little endu/little dmg

(f)14-9-8-17-9-16-11 ST
Bonused rip, defense, damage
+2/4 rip, +1/4 defense
Poor endu/great dmg

(d)8-6-16-21-17-3-13 ST
Ambi
Poor endu/good dmg


(c)8-8-5-21-21-10-11 SL
Bonused endu, ambi
Good endu/norm dmg


(a)15-5-6-17-21-13-7 SL
Bonused dmg
Good endu/great dmg



(e)11-9-13-17-21-4-9 SL
Mode
Good/good



(b)11-19-10-9-21-3-11 TP
Mode
Great endu/good dmg

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:02 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Finally someone else who recognizes the strong potential of that striker. (LHI)

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:49 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Assurnasirbanipal wrote:
Street_Legal wrote:
The Consortium wrote:
c,a,f,d,g,b,c


Which one of those "c's" is really e?

Looking at Assur's ordering wondering which one of us is clueless about tourney warriors? We differ GREATLY! I'm guessing me since I've been "sans tourney" since October 31st, 2009! Cool


Or perhaps my anti-striker bias comes through in a rating system like this


Is it an anti-ST bias or an every ST should really be a BA bias? Laughing

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