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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:23 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

At this year’s (2015) FTF I had some luck with my blood games bashers. Several people have been curious as to how I did this, and so I thought I would just write it out.
A little preamble is necessary to sufficiently tell the story.

….. I am a returning manager and when I played all those years ago I did not participate in the blood games because $50 dollars was a lot of money! My whole tourney budget was $100 and yes early entrant were $7 back then.
So Orlando was my first FTF coming back and I kept with tradition, not playing the blood games. I read a write up about common builds used in the blood games sometime between Orlando and the winter FTF 14. I decided to give it a try. I literally used builds straight from that write up. I rolled them 3 times and got an AB LU bonused on the same team! I was chopping at the bit to run these gods. The rest of you had no idea what was about to happen to the BG! I’m sure you have guessed the rest. The AB died round 1 and the lunger round 3. The entire team was dead by round 7. Total humiliation. That ate at me a lot between Phoenix and Chicago. I made some adjustments for Chicago and had a little success.

Fast forward to prep for Phoenix 2.0. I had various thoughts about different styles but when I came to the Basher I was honestly totally uninspired. I had seen no success with the fast version. I decided to get radical with this style as it had little shot of success anyway.
The concept: To take out offensive styles that were otherwise killing my AB/LU
Problems: Typically don’t get the jump and when I would dodge reposte was the typical result.
The current basher build I was using could not take a hit.
Solution: Build a hybrid Basher that functioned more like a Parry-Bash. He will need to be able to take a few shots and deliver a few shots.
Philosophical oddities: Skill base overall is irrelevant. ATT and PARRY are the skills to focus on. You want to parry as much as possible until it’s time to attack. Speed is completely useless to this concept.
The physicals need to include tremendous carry and Take, with awesome endurance. Give can be Good
The first step to any Parry X DYO is 21 will.
Ok So there is a little back ground to the thinking. Before I list the build I must warn you that this build is not for the faint at heart. It is not uncommon to taste a little bile in the back of your throat when first seeing it, that’s ok. I don’t claim to be a genius, but for whatever reason it worked this time.
Without further ado……..

19-20-3-7-21-3-11
I’ll just let that sink in for a minute……
Ok, let’s move on…
The Results….
Mail in……

ME: APA F 0-12 WH LG BU WH 13+ WH BU WH

Rd 1: VRS 4’11” Naked SC SL
Min 1 Hit me 4 times parried 4 dodged 1 not desperate
Min 2 similar
Min 3 has me desperate going for the kill Desp Strat kicks in WH to head
Min 4 WH to Throat Kill #1

Rd 2: VRS 4’11” Naked FH BS SL
Min 1 Hit me 2 times Parried 7 Dodged 0 no desperation
Min 2-3 Similar results
Min 4 hit me 3 times Desperation WH to the Buttocks Win no kill

Rd 3: VRS 4’11” ARM H LO AB
Min 1-4 Trade a few blows back and forth
Min 5 Gets into me with a LO Crit near the end Go Desperate
Min 5-6 Desp strat kicks in 10 WH Shots Win + Kill

Rd 4: VRS 4’11” APA F BA LG ST
Min 1-3 Trade a few blows back and forth
Min 4 I get him desperate twice
Min 5 The BA Attacks add up I go Desperate Desp Strat kicks in 4 WH Smashes Win + Kill

Rd 5: VRS 4’11” ASM F BA TP
Min 1-4 Trade a bunch of swings and parrys back and forth
Min 4 I get him desperate twice
Min 5 4 WH Smashes Win seeking the death but no kill

Rd 6: VRS 4’11” APA H LO LU
Min 1 I swing first, he dodges and reposte, hits me 8 times and has me desperate after 6
Min 2 Hits me twice more has me desperate again, he is tired, my turn I hit him once he hits me two more times
Min 3 Hits me 3 more times, Weapons lock, my turn right arm shot he’s careless, hit him 1 more time
Min 4 Three WH Smashes Win + Kill

Rd 7: VRS 4’11” APA F SC WS
Min 1 Hits me twice I hit him once
Min 3 Has me desperate after 4 hits
Min 3 Hits me 3 more times, Weapons lock, my turn right arm shot he’s careless, hit him 1 more time
Min 4 Parrys 3 WH Crits from me and takes one
Min 5 6 WH Smashes Win + Kill

Rd 8: VRS 4’11” Naked SC ST
Min 1 Starts with extra Dmg SC Crit on me 5 more normal hit and two are parried I go desperate 2 more normal followed by an extra damage SC Crit to the arm takes me out It’s a loss.

Rd 9: VRS 4’11” ASM F LO LU
Min 1 Hits me four times I parry 2 I am desperate hits me 2 more times I parry 1 more
Min 2 Starts with Extra Dmg LO Crit to the knee 3 more normal and 1 parry it’s a loss

Rd 10: VRS 4’11” APA F ME BA TP
Min 1-10 Trading blows back and forth
Min 11 - 14 hits me 11 times I’m desperate twice. Hit him once near the end of the round
Min 15 take a groin shot go desperate, smash my WH to the head seeking the death blow Win no kill

Final record 8-2-5
Strat min 1-2 LO/LO 3 Mod/LO 4-5 Hi/LO 6 on Mod/LO Des VH/VH

FTF Results

Rd 1: VRS 4’11” APM F GA WS
Min 1-7 Trading blows back and forth. Neither goes desperate
Min 8 I hit him twice finally
Min 9 I parry 1 and dodge 2 GA Swings, hit him 5 times Win + Kill
Str train carry unlimited

Rd 2: VRS 4’11” APA F BA TP
Min 1-17 Trading blows back and forth
Min 18 both tired hit him 3 times he hits me once
Min 19 hit him once he is Desp backpedal and Desp myself
Min 20 hits me 3 times I am Desp I hit him 3 times and he goes down it’s a win no kill
Train con

Rd 3: VRS 4’11” APM F BA WS
Min 1-3 I parry every attack and never attack myself
Min 4 Hits me 3 times in the forehead and I go Desperate Two LG Shield smashes and WH hit later it is over Win no kill

Rd 4: VRS 4’11” Naked SC ST
Min 1 hit me 7 times parried twice
Min 2 Hit me 4 more times parried 3 went desperate Hit me 3 more times
Min 3 Hit me 7 more times I bash with my shield he is frantic
Min 4 he hits me 3 more times I parry one, WH to the head Desperate to the Jaw DEAD Win + kill

Rd 5: VRS 4’11” APA F SC DA WS
Min 1-3 Trade swings and parries, hits me a couple times near the end of the 3rd
Min 4 Hit me 2 more times got me Desperate hits me 4 more times, parries a WH Crit
Min 5 He Parrys 4 shots and takes 4 shots
Min 6 he is frantic he crits me to the throat for extra dmg 2 more shots and he seeks the death, it’s a loss

Rd 6: VRS 5’5” Naked S LO LU
Min 1 First line knocks me down with a crit I stand back up. I parry 5 shots and take 4 more in the min
Min 2 Hit me 2 more times got me Desperate WH to the Forehead, then the Face Win+ Kill

Rd 7: VRS 4’11” Naked SC SL
Min 1 Hits me twice I parry three, then he Times devilishly for extra dmg he seeks my death, it’s a loss

Rd 8: VRS 4’11” APA F LG SC TP
Min 1-13 Trade swings and parries, no real dmg to either
Min 14 I am straining I land 2 blows he is desperate
Min 15 still tired hit him 2 more times he is desperate
Min 16 still tired hit him 3 more times he is desperate
Min 17 both tired hit him 2 more times he is desperate
Min 18 WH the lower body seeking the death it’s a win no kill

Rd 9: VRS 4’11” APA F BA ME TP
Min 1-17 Pick away at him finally get him desperate in the 17th min
Min 18 He sinks to the ground unable to continue It’s a win no kill

Rd 10: VRS 4’11” Naked WH BA
Min 1 Opens up on me two crits and a normal I am not desperate yet 2 more normals and 1 that I parry and I am now desperate 5 more normals and 1 more crit with 1 more parry for me to finish the minute.
Min 2 3 more normals two more crits and two more parries and it’s over, it is a loss

Final Record 7-3-3

So there you have it. Nothing spectacular but I must admit the fights were fun to read. Other versions I considered were 19-18-3-9-21-3-11 and 19-18-9-3-21-3-11 I had my reasons for going with what I did but I believe it could be tweaked to your liking. I hope you enjoyed reading this and please don’t consider it any kind of a guide. My intent was just to share the fun I had.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:26 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Awesome Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 2:18 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Very nicely done and very nicely written/shared.

THANKS.

And KUDOS!!!!!!!!! Shocked

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 8:18 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks Wayne I appreciate it. Can I be in basher club now?

GB i'm glad you liked it. Sorry it's not the resolution to the matrix but it was a lot of fun.

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The_Mentors wrote:
Thanks Wayne I appreciate it. Can I be in basher club now?

GB i'm glad you liked it. Sorry it's not the resolution to the matrix but it was a lot of fun.


I will put your name up to the board Of Directors. They are a testy group, but we shall see.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:45 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

So, did you get two winners in the blood games with that design?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:45 am Reply with quoteBack to top

yeah longshot I was able to get 2 bashers out. The mailin version came in first and the FTF version tied with 3 strikers for 2nd/3rd.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:37 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks for the article. Wish I had a rollup to try this on. I do have a scum that has some similar numbers.
He came back with great sword as a fav. 1 skill short of maxing atk. 10 more skills in total needed so I can start burning. I was thinking of doing a strat like you have done with the basher. Always wanted my scum to rack up the kills.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:19 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Congrats on the success with your designs!

My favorite part is that every warrior you fought except 1 was size 3.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:05 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The_Mentors wrote:
yeah longshot I was able to get 2 bashers out. The mailin version came in first and the FTF version tied with 3 strikers for 2nd/3rd.


well, congrats. Smile
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