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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:53 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Post 'em here for those who would not like to be "spoiled" until after they receive and read their own.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:47 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Since I went through the trouble of highlighting my "hopefuls" in another thread, I feel obligated to post their results.


SNAKE OIL SALESMAN went 4-3, just like the previous tourney. Apparently finishing off his SP trains, learning his last Defense skill, and passing 300 FE didn't measurably improve his chances in this tourney. He lost to three perfect ABs, and beat four warriors who were NOT perfect ABs.

I'll keep tinkering with his strategy and hope for better things to come.


DECK SWAB failed to get any more DF trains and went 3-3. So while he got past round 5 and beat some competitive warriors (which is a feat for a BA in Contenders), he didn't do quite as well as I had hoped.

Still, it was fun to run him in a tourney again.


VAMPIRE SQUID went 0-2. I can't put a silver lining on this one.


ANGEL CAKE went 3-3. He was always a long-shot, both because of his weak damage and his style, but it was still disappointing. He looked okay, but simply lost to some better warriors.


CANNED SAVRADESE hit the train to 21 WT in round 1, and then picked up 22 WT halfway to the run-offs. He fought well and got himself into TV position, but lost in round 10 to finish 7-3. At least his sexy 14 kill arena record will appear in the tourney newsletter.

I ended up with 0 TVs in the ADM-level classes, and I was pretty stunned at how poorly I did in classes that are usually my strength. I mentally steeled myself for a terrible tourney.


ZETA FORNACIS went 1-3. She did the worst of my six Champions. Its almost like I cursed these warriors by writing about them!

Unfortunately, the uncursed Champions failed to get me that elusive TV, either. Things were looking more and more bleak.

The Rest

I didn't even bother highlighting my chances in classes below Champions because I'm not traditionally successful in Adepts through Rookies.

Sticking with the tourney's theme so far, none of my four Adepts TV'd. I had now read through eight classes and failed to earn a single TV.

Much to my surprise (and delight), Initiates, Apprentices, Dead Initiates, and Dead Apprentices ended up saving my tourney. When all was said and done, my 93 entrants went 316-257-8-9 and won 7 awards (all of them in those 4 previously mentioned classes), consisting of 6 TVs and 1 TC. My warriors won 55% of their matches and 7.5% of them won awards. Not ideal, but considering how poorly I did in the top 1/2 of the tourney, I was relieved to have done so well.

Despite this being a spoiler thread, I tried my best not to spoil too much as I know Priority Mailers won't be arriving until Tuesday. I will try to post more details of my rare victories later in the week when more people have read their tournaments.

To those that have already read their tournies, I hope you enjoyed them. To those that are still waiting, good luck!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:19 am Reply with quoteBack to top


As I had previously mentioned, I earned 0 TVs from Primus through Adepts. That is half of the classes in the tourney and contained a third of my entrants. Not only that, but those are the classes in which I typically excel.

From the wreckage of my tourney emerged an unlikely hero to break my TV drought. I had entered 12 Initiates, including several 21 WT Strikers, a 21-17 Slasher, and two 17-21 Lungers, not to mention a solid Aimed Blow and Wall of Steel. I was not expecting my first TV of the tournament to be from this guy:

HOBO STEW (7-6823) of SHEWISH PICNIC (580) [3-2-0,27,10FE], will fight Initiates.
He is a lunger with ST=11 CN=10 SZ=13 WT=17 WL=17 SP=5 DF=11.
He is right handed, is very intelligent, is quick and active, is clumsy, can not carry a lot of weight, is incredibly quick and elusive, does good damage, has an Expert in initiative, and has an Expert in attack.

Arena 7 is one of my few semi-arena teams, where I also time tourney warriors when they appear. I rolled up this 17-17 and he came back with an Expert in Attack, so I ran him in Rookies and Apprentices and timed him in the arena along the way.

HOBO STEW looked lackluster in earlier tournies and arena fights with the SS and LO, so I next tried LS in the arena. I have these two notes on his overview:

"LS crit at 9-10"
"more LS crits with 5-8 desp"

Well, that looked like the beginning of a strategy for Initiates. I had zero expectations for this warrior, but as I said earlier, I decided to run everything that I had timed in basic and that could possibly do okay. If he failed to do well in Initiates, as I expected he would, I would either just run him to graduation in the arena or try my hand at killing Dark Arena monsters with him.

For my main strategy, I gave him a LS, no back-up, no armor, 9-10 in minute 1 and 5-8 in desperation, with a slower strategy in the middle minutes. Against TP, WS, and PR, I went instead for LO, back-up LO, and skipped the 9-10 in minute 1, instead going straight into the slower strategy.

After 9 rounds, HOBO STEW had managed to go 8-1, 5-0 with the main strategy and 3-1 with the anti-parry strategy. Barring a death, he would be my first TV of the tourney.

This warrior's success brings up lots of questions. Who uses the LS? Isn't this warrior precisely why you do terrible in Rookies through Initiates? Who brings STEW to a PICNIC? Believe me, I have the same questions and its going to take a long while for me to figure out the answers.

Even at 8-1, I expected nothing more from this warrior than an 8-3 performance, but he kept on going. He had already picked up his AdEx in Attack, and he went on to pick up an Expert in Decise and an Expert in Defense (revealing +2 Def) in the run-offs. Along the rest of the way, he went a further 2-1 with his LS strategy and 1-1 with his LO strategy, to finish up at 11-3. He went undefeated against AB, ST, TP, and PL, took losses but maintained winning records against WS and LU, and lost his only match with a PR. He was joined in the TV ranks by a 21-15 Striker, who finished up at 8-3.

While its fun to achieve unexpected success with a warrior, this doesn't particularly bode well for the future. He has likely learned too slowly to accomplish anything else in a tourney ever again, and I probably stumbled upon his favorites, something which can't be counted on with future warriors. Basically, it was a TV that lacked the promise of future TVs to come.

That said, I was thrilled to have put something on the board in this tourney and after being bummed out for much of the tourney, I was eager to read further.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:00 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

After picking up my first two TVs of the tournament in Initiates, I followed it up with two TVs in Apprentices. One was an 8-3 with a super bonused 17-21 LU, and the other was a 10-3 with a pretty ordinary 21-10 ST. I went from 0 to 2 to 4 TVs in the span of two classes.

I reverted to my losing ways in Rookies. My best performance in this class was a 7-3 with a 17-13-12-17-17-5-3 LU. I guess it was a good tourney to be a mediocre looking LU.

I ran five Dead Challengers and one recently deceased Striker managed a 7-3-1. He'll try again next year. And probably the year after.

Out of four Dead Champions, I managed two 6-3s and one 5-3. Not bad, but not good enough.

I got another 6-3 in Dead Adepts out of three entrants. I seemed to be losing momentum after my hot streak in Initiates and Apprentices.

Dead Initiates

I ran three warriors in Dead Initiates. One was an 11(1)-16-5-21-17-4-11 PL at 9 FE. I had previously had some basic success with this design, so I was hopeful. Another was a 13-9-4-21-7-9-21 AB with 8 FE. The third was a 5-6-12-17-17-6-21 AB with 10 FE. This last design had been successful for me in the past, as another version of him got a deep Rookies TV before also dying.

The PL went 0-2. At least he'll be timed at 10 FE for next year.

The 21-7 AB, MORDANT DESSERT, went 8-3-1 and earned himself a place among the living. I'll enjoy running him in a future tournament.

The biggest surprise, though, was the 17-17 AB:

TAU ORIONIS (19-5745) of ORION (488) [0-1-0,15,10FE], will fight Dead initiates.
He was a aimed blow with ST=5 CN=6 SZ=12 WT=17 WL=17 SP=6 DF=21.
He was left handed, was very intelligent, was active, was very frail, could carry very little weight, was incredibly quick and elusive, and had an Advanced Expert in attack.

He doesn't look like much, and I might not have run him if he were at 6 or 7 FE. He did have a note on his overview that read: "looked good with the DA 9-10-7". That certainly looks like a fine minute 1 strategy.

I wasn't confident in his ability to jump Strikers, despite being an apparent Decise favorite learn (he had just under an Expert at the start of the tourney), so I used a FI strategy against that style. And that almost cost TAU ORIONIS the tourney.

In the first 9 rounds, TAU ORIONIS fought 7 non-STs with his Dagger and went 7-0, and fought 2 STs with his lousy Fist and went 0-2. Round 10 match-up? A 3rd ST. The ST attacked, hit TAU in the chest, attacked 3 more times with TAU dodging, attacked a fifth time, hitting TAU in the leg, sending him desperate. He attacked twice more and TAU ORIONIS dodged twice more. Then the Striker ran out of gas and flailed a weary armed attack. TAU took the initiative and threw three normal attacks (why did I use the Fist?!?) to win the match and earn my second Dead TV of the tournament.

At 8-2, I wasn't expecting much more out of this warrior. He had picked up an Expert in Defense, a Master in Attack, and an Expert in Decise along the way, but I wasn't confident in his ability to beat another Striker.

Lucky for me, he didn't face any more Strikers. Over his next four fights, he beat an AB, a LU, a TP, and a SL with his trusty Dagger and won the TC with a 12-2 record. With 46 learns in 17 FE and a fresh new note on his overview ("don't use the Fist"), hopefully he has a chance in Adepts and Champions. Following that, his 1 arena fight, 0 PPs, and newly Immortal body will make him a perfect Challengers sandbagger.

While it is isn't a use of the new Frankenstein chamber, an immortal AB to play around with in basic is not nothing. This is my first Dead Initiates TC, too, so that is special for me.

In the remaining class, Dead Apprentices, a 10-3 TV with a Striker out of two entrants put the finishing touch on a fine redemption story. With one TC and six TVs, the living and dead Initiates and Apprentices took my tourney from an abject failure to a moderate success.

I hope everyone finds something in their tourney to be happy or hopeful about. I plan on going to Tempe, so I'll see you on the sands in January.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:36 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

are there any actual spoilers?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:07 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

With a small squad I managed to pick up my 4th title fight. I did lose it to move my record in TC fights to 1-3, but I got there!
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