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[quote="Darque"][quote="Darque"]To my knowledge, Popularity has nothing to do with determining the DM. I was not aware that kills played a factor as well. Using DM 28 this past turn as an example, I do not believe it to be true. A new arena could have a different rule set, but there hasn't been a new arena in so long I don't expect many people to remember all the ins and outs. [b]The only ways to become DM are have the most recognition points or to defeat the reigning DM.[/b] Looking it over, I like the idea of using kills as a tie-breaker (afterall it is used in the Current Top Team category) but any factor beyond that is questionable.[/quote] Yes, I kinda said that in my post.[/quote]
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Hammer_Minister_of_War
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 2:12 am Post subject:
Kat wrote:
Hammer_Minister_of_War wrote:
Kat wrote:
Hammer_Minister_of_War wrote:
If an AARDVARK HAMMERZ gladiator is on the throne for Turn 1 then I will be compelled to do something special for the Arena!
Incontinence isn't sexy.
Were we to compare stable gladiators you would probably conclude your stable has a much better chance of posting a DM on Turn 1 than mine!
Eh - not entirely sure about that. As I've become older, my interest has shifted from the straight W/L % to 'finding intricacies' and experimenting. This isn't my best-fielded team (by any strech of the imagination) - but we'll see
Remember Wimpy? He would downgrade his Wimps then amass a bunch of victories!
But do not confuse this stable with what Wimpy sent to the Sands!
Kat
Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 1:21 pm Post subject:
Hammer_Minister_of_War wrote:
Kat wrote:
Hammer_Minister_of_War wrote:
If an AARDVARK HAMMERZ gladiator is on the throne for Turn 1 then I will be compelled to do something special for the Arena!
Incontinence isn't sexy.
Were we to compare stable gladiators you would probably conclude your stable has a much better chance of posting a DM on Turn 1 than mine!
Eh - not entirely sure about that. As I've become older, my interest has shifted from the straight W/L % to 'finding intricacies' and experimenting. This isn't my best-fielded team (by any strech of the imagination) - but we'll see
Hammer_Minister_of_War
Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:32 am Post subject:
Kat wrote:
Hammer_Minister_of_War wrote:
If an AARDVARK HAMMERZ gladiator is on the throne for Turn 1 then I will be compelled to do something special for the Arena!
Incontinence isn't sexy.
Were we to compare stable gladiators you would probably conclude your stable has a much better chance of posting a DM on Turn 1 than mine!
Kat
Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:51 am Post subject:
Hammer_Minister_of_War wrote:
If an AARDVARK HAMMERZ gladiator is on the throne for Turn 1 then I will be compelled to do something special for the Arena!
Incontinence isn't sexy.
Hammer_Minister_of_War
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 10:46 pm Post subject:
If an AARDVARK HAMMERZ gladiator is on the throne for Turn 1 then I will be compelled to do something special for the Arena!
Darque
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:29 pm Post subject:
Darque wrote:
To my knowledge, Popularity has nothing to do with determining the DM. I was not aware that kills played a factor as well. Using DM 28 this past turn as an example, I do not believe it to be true. A new arena could have a different rule set, but there hasn't been a new arena in so long I don't expect many people to remember all the ins and outs.
The only ways to become DM are have the most recognition points or to defeat the reigning DM.
Looking it over, I like the idea of using kills as a tie-breaker (afterall it is used in the Current Top Team category) but any factor beyond that is questionable.
Yes, I kinda said that in my post.
Hammer_Minister_of_War
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:54 pm Post subject:
BINGO! Correct Answer!
JE wrote:
On the first turn of an arena the duelmaster is determined by recognition and recognition only. If the two top warriors are tied there will not be a duelmaster until one warrior has more recognition than the others. It will say "position is empty". After that normal rules apply. Either you have to beat the duelmaster or in the event that the current duelmaster doesn't fight (graduation, missing a turn) it goes back to recognition.
JE
Darque wrote:
MasterBeru wrote:
If I recall correctly, there will be. From being part of a few new arenas in the 80s/90s, the title goes to the top warrior on turn 1. This appeared to be determined by:
1) Recognition Level
2) If tied, then best kill record
3) If tied, then most popular (unconfirmed)
4) If tied, then ??? factor
Two arenas that I recall ended up like Deke said and killed stand-ins on turn one to get 20+ recognition. Both were LUs, if my memory is not playing tricks on me. Both of those were cut and dry though with them having more recognition than any other warrior.
I heard about one arena where a DA'd warrior won and got the first turn DM. But I never talked to the manager directly to confirm this. Rumor had it that the warrior was horrid on paper but managed to win several fights in the DA before finally being killed off. Can't say I trust the story though.
Essentially, first DM is a crap shoot. The next three or four turns are not much better. After that skill really shines.
MB
To my knowledge, Popularity has nothing to do with determining the DM. I was not aware that kills played a factor as well. Using DM 28 this past turn as an example, I do not believe it to be true. A new arena could have a different rule set, but there hasn't been a new arena in so long I don't expect many people to remember all the ins and outs.
The only ways to become DM are have the most recognition points or to defeat the reigning DM. Looking it over, I like the idea of using kills as a tie-breaker (afterall it is used in the Current Top Team category) but any factor beyond that is questionable.
pipthetroll
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:13 pm Post subject:
Darque wrote:
To my knowledge, Popularity has nothing to do with determining the DM. I was not aware that kills played a factor as well. Using DM 28 this past turn as an example, I do not believe it to be true. A new arena could have a different rule set, but there hasn't been a new arena in so long I don't expect many people to remember all the ins and outs.
The only ways to become DM are have the most recognition points or to defeat the reigning DM. Looking it over, I like the idea of using kills as a tie-breaker (afterall it is used in the Current Top Team category) but any factor beyond that is questionable.
Kills don't play a factor, but you get more recognition for a kill.
JE
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:05 pm Post subject:
On the first turn of an arena the duelmaster is determined by recognition and recognition only. If the two top warriors are tied there will not be a duelmaster until one warrior has more recognition than the others. It will say "position is empty". After that normal rules apply. Either you have to beat the duelmaster or in the event that the current duelmaster doesn't fight (graduation, missing a turn) it goes back to recognition.
JE
Darque wrote:
MasterBeru wrote:
If I recall correctly, there will be. From being part of a few new arenas in the 80s/90s, the title goes to the top warrior on turn 1. This appeared to be determined by:
1) Recognition Level
2) If tied, then best kill record
3) If tied, then most popular (unconfirmed)
4) If tied, then ??? factor
Two arenas that I recall ended up like Deke said and killed stand-ins on turn one to get 20+ recognition. Both were LUs, if my memory is not playing tricks on me. Both of those were cut and dry though with them having more recognition than any other warrior.
I heard about one arena where a DA'd warrior won and got the first turn DM. But I never talked to the manager directly to confirm this. Rumor had it that the warrior was horrid on paper but managed to win several fights in the DA before finally being killed off. Can't say I trust the story though.
Essentially, first DM is a crap shoot. The next three or four turns are not much better. After that skill really shines.
MB
To my knowledge, Popularity has nothing to do with determining the DM. I was not aware that kills played a factor as well. Using DM 28 this past turn as an example, I do not believe it to be true. A new arena could have a different rule set, but there hasn't been a new arena in so long I don't expect many people to remember all the ins and outs.
The only ways to become DM are have the most recognition points or to defeat the reigning DM. Looking it over, I like the idea of using kills as a tie-breaker (afterall it is used in the Current Top Team category) but any factor beyond that is questionable.
MasterBeru
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:04 pm Post subject:
Darque wrote:
MasterBeru wrote:
If I recall correctly, there will be. From being part of a few new arenas in the 80s/90s, the title goes to the top warrior on turn 1. This appeared to be determined by:
1) Recognition Level
2) If tied, then best kill record
3) If tied, then most popular (unconfirmed)
4) If tied, then ??? factor
Two arenas that I recall ended up like Deke said and killed stand-ins on turn one to get 20+ recognition. Both were LUs, if my memory is not playing tricks on me. Both of those were cut and dry though with them having more recognition than any other warrior.
I heard about one arena where a DA'd warrior won and got the first turn DM. But I never talked to the manager directly to confirm this. Rumor had it that the warrior was horrid on paper but managed to win several fights in the DA before finally being killed off. Can't say I trust the story though.
Essentially, first DM is a crap shoot. The next three or four turns are not much better. After that skill really shines.
MB
To my knowledge, Popularity has nothing to do with determining the DM. I was not aware that kills played a factor as well. Using DM 28 this past turn as an example, I do not believe it to be true. A new arena could have a different rule set, but there hasn't been a new arena in so long I don't expect many people to remember all the ins and outs.
The only ways to become DM are have the most recognition points or to defeat the reigning DM. Looking it over, I like the idea of using kills as a tie-breaker (afterall it is used in the Current Top Team category) but any factor beyond that is questionable.
The Recognition is the main factor, that is correct. If that does not give a clear "winner" then the next section is used to decide the matter, and so on. So popularity would only come into play if everything else was an exact match.
Darque
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:11 am Post subject:
MasterBeru wrote:
If I recall correctly, there will be. From being part of a few new arenas in the 80s/90s, the title goes to the top warrior on turn 1. This appeared to be determined by:
1) Recognition Level
2) If tied, then best kill record
3) If tied, then most popular (unconfirmed)
4) If tied, then ??? factor
Two arenas that I recall ended up like Deke said and killed stand-ins on turn one to get 20+ recognition. Both were LUs, if my memory is not playing tricks on me. Both of those were cut and dry though with them having more recognition than any other warrior.
I heard about one arena where a DA'd warrior won and got the first turn DM. But I never talked to the manager directly to confirm this. Rumor had it that the warrior was horrid on paper but managed to win several fights in the DA before finally being killed off. Can't say I trust the story though.
Essentially, first DM is a crap shoot. The next three or four turns are not much better. After that skill really shines.
MB
To my knowledge, Popularity has nothing to do with determining the DM. I was not aware that kills played a factor as well. Using DM 28 this past turn as an example, I do not believe it to be true. A new arena could have a different rule set, but there hasn't been a new arena in so long I don't expect many people to remember all the ins and outs.
The only ways to become DM are have the most recognition points or to defeat the reigning DM. Looking it over, I like the idea of using kills as a tie-breaker (afterall it is used in the Current Top Team category) but any factor beyond that is questionable.
blackstorm
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:12 am Post subject:
Chaos Lord will be the first DM!!
MasterBeru
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:09 am Post subject:
If I recall correctly, there will be. From being part of a few new arenas in the 80s/90s, the title goes to the top warrior on turn 1. This appeared to be determined by:
1) Recognition Level
2) If tied, then best kill record
3) If tied, then most popular (unconfirmed)
4) If tied, then ??? factor
Two arenas that I recall ended up like Deke said and killed stand-ins on turn one to get 20+ recognition. Both were LUs, if my memory is not playing tricks on me. Both of those were cut and dry though with them having more recognition than any other warrior.
I heard about one arena where a DA'd warrior won and got the first turn DM. But I never talked to the manager directly to confirm this. Rumor had it that the warrior was horrid on paper but managed to win several fights in the DA before finally being killed off. Can't say I trust the story though.
Essentially, first DM is a crap shoot. The next three or four turns are not much better. After that skill really shines.
MB
Slugbait
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:56 am Post subject:
The last couple of new arenas I was involved with (many, many, many years ago) the first Duelmaster was a warrior that either: killed a RSI stand-in, survived the dark arena or had two kills by turn two. I bet we have a duelmaster, with a kill or two, by turn 2 -3.
My suggestion is that you DA your best warrior(s) so that you can become Duelmaster. That is what I'm doing.
slugbait
Deke
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:08 am Post subject:
I will ask RSI. I think it is based on Recognition level. And with 30+ teams it could be a long time before one warrior has a higher recongnition total than eveyone else. On a positive note, it will not be a scum warrior.
As far as the competitons, I an not tracking "IRON THRONE" Points until turn 11.
The Iron Throne Award:
The first team to hold the Duelmaster for 10 turns STARTING ON TURN 11.
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