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Posted:
Thu Dec 24, 2015 5:39 am
The Consortium wrote:
Some seldom use tactics; some often use tactics - they can help or hurt any style; Consortiumites seldom run a strategy without at least one tactic
Don't you believe that low wit/decise old wife's tale; not true
I believe you... which means that there are other factors affecting 'getting the jump'... which translate (roughly) into skills vs basic attributes... which confuses me even further. I have had warriors without any experts at all swarm all over other fighters with multiple experts.
A result of opposing strategies aligning favorably (for me)? Wow. I will have to rethink the whole 'warrior design' concept again with the new fighter I am expecting. THIS fighter: 15-6-8-5-13-9-14 led me toward a style that favors aggression / attack vs decisiveness --- the Slasher. If the CN had been higher I'd have gone with WoS...
But if WT has nothing to do with Decisiveness, then why not:
21-6-8-5-14-15-15 BA or ST? Wielding either a mace or a warhammer (battle axe??) this creature should hit hard and often for at least the first two minutes. Hopefully hit FIRST, too?
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Posted:
Thu Dec 24, 2015 7:12 am
KidArcane wrote:
The Consortium wrote:
Some seldom use tactics; some often use tactics - they can help or hurt any style; Consortiumites seldom run a strategy without at least one tactic
Don't you believe that low wit/decise old wife's tale; not true
I believe you... which means that there are other factors affecting 'getting the jump'... which translate (roughly) into skills vs basic attributes... which confuses me even further. I have had warriors without any experts at all swarm all over other fighters with multiple experts.
A result of opposing strategies aligning favorably (for me)? Wow. I will have to rethink the whole 'warrior design' concept again with the new fighter I am expecting. THIS fighter: 15-6-8-5-13-9-14 led me toward a style that favors aggression / attack vs decisiveness --- the Slasher. If the CN had been higher I'd have gone with WoS...
But if WT has nothing to do with Decisiveness, then why not:
21-6-8-5-14-15-15 BA or ST? Wielding either a mace or a warhammer (battle axe??) this creature should hit hard and often for at least the first two minutes. Hopefully hit FIRST, too?
No one said "WT had nothing to do with Decisiveness"
there is no ONE answer
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Thu Dec 24, 2015 4:03 pm
KidArcane wrote:
I believe you... which means that there are other factors affecting 'getting the jump'... which translate (roughly) into skills vs basic attributes... which confuses me even further. I have had warriors without any experts at all swarm all over other fighters with multiple experts.
One thing to remember about Decisiveness, and I've discussed it with many managers who generally agree, is that there is almost certainly a random factor (dice roll) thrown in there. It's not that uncommon to see someone with a lower decise jump a guy with higher decise, using the same numbers and tactics.
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Posted:
Thu Dec 24, 2015 4:21 pm
_Buri_ wrote:
KidArcane wrote:
I believe you... which means that there are other factors affecting 'getting the jump'... which translate (roughly) into skills vs basic attributes... which confuses me even further. I have had warriors without any experts at all swarm all over other fighters with multiple experts.
One thing to remember about Decisiveness, and I've discussed it with many managers who generally agree, is that there is almost certainly a random factor (dice roll) thrown in there. It's not that uncommon to see someone with a lower decise jump a guy with higher decise, using the same numbers and tactics.
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Thu Dec 24, 2015 7:52 pm
Lugal_gg wrote:
_Buri_ wrote:
KidArcane wrote:
I believe you... which means that there are other factors affecting 'getting the jump'... which translate (roughly) into skills vs basic attributes... which confuses me even further. I have had warriors without any experts at all swarm all over other fighters with multiple experts.
One thing to remember about Decisiveness, and I've discussed it with many managers who generally agree, is that there is almost certainly a random factor (dice roll) thrown in there. It's not that uncommon to see someone with a lower decise jump a guy with higher decise, using the same numbers and tactics.
Luck factor?
I think it is a die roll in the moment. Luck may add into the computation as well as it may or may not add in to every roll, ie death check, initiative roll, defense roll, attack roll, stuff like that.
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Fri Dec 25, 2015 5:24 am
Okay, okay. SO -- 15-6-8-5-13-9-14 ?? 21-6-8-5-14-15-15 BA or ST, is a viable possibility? Not the greatest, but likely to cause some mayhem, right? Primarily as a BA.
That being said, I still prefer 15-6-8-11-19-10-15 SL
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Fri Dec 25, 2015 5:25 am
Oh, and I forgot.
Merry Christmas to Everyone!!
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Fri Dec 25, 2015 5:26 am
Even Den.
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Posted:
Fri Dec 25, 2015 5:33 am
KidArcane wrote:
Okay, okay. SO -- 15-6-8-5-13-9-14 ?? 21-6-8-5-14-15-15 BA or ST, is a viable possibility? Not the greatest, but likely to cause some mayhem, right? Primarily as a BA.
That being said, I still prefer 15-6-8-11-19-10-15 SL
Anything is viable, but if decise intrigues you, why not up the WL (and SP) for those skills?
17-6-8-5-17-16-15
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Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:21 pm
KidArcane wrote:
Even Den.
Well, thank you, I guess. And I hope you enjoyed some Christmas Jeer as well!
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