Just Unlucky?

ArchMaster Poster Joined: Mar 10, 2008 Posts: 1999

No TV's or TC's

PL, 11-10-8-17-16(+1)-9-15, 30/21/29/29/26/11, +1 Rip, -2 Def

Why would this guy be classified ADM?

Another of mine that has more skills/stats and is freshman

PL, 11-12-7-21-16(+1)-5-13, 29/20/29/25/28/16, +4 Def, +1 Dec

Is it possible that total skills isn't what is used for classification? And it is only learned skills sans the bonus's? Or maybe the bonus's are not added? I dunno just rambling.

If I use the regular stat*2 + skills = DI
The top one should be 148
The bottom one should be: 149

ArchMaster Poster Joined: Apr 15, 2004 Posts: 2958

The simplest explanation for this is that warrior #1 is bonused in Dec, something that you will be unable to confirm until he gets an Expert.

ArchMaster Poster Joined: Sep 13, 2006 Posts: 1020

I have a Waste who has 103 total learned skills 6-3 last freshy who got bumped to ADM for the F2F. Grats on the 0-3 me woo woo.

The Freshmen ADM cut I find the oddest to figure out myself. I think Sandy looks at Lee and says man I hate this guys name, lets get him out of the tourny quick.

ArchMaster Poster Joined: Mar 10, 2008 Posts: 1999

One Armed Bandit wrote:

The simplest explanation for this is that warrior #1 is bonused in Dec, something that you will be unable to confirm until he gets an Expert.

Yea, I thought about that after I rambled on in my post.

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:42 pm

Grimm wrote:

I have a Waste who has 103 total learned skills 6-3 last freshy who got bumped to ADM for the F2F. Grats on the 0-3 me woo woo.

The Freshmen ADM cut I find the oddest to figure out myself. I think Sandy looks at Lee and says man I hate this guys name, lets get him out of the tourny quick.

Yep. That is the secret.

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:53 am

I have 2 WS, one with 154, the other with 158 and PS with 152 that are still in Freshman. While I have a AB with 154 and a ST with 152 that are ADM.

The two WS are very old warriors and have burned some skills, while the PS, AB AND ST have not.

Their is obviously more too the formula than just total skillS plus stat raises times 2.

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:57 am

Tripwire wrote:

No TV's or TC's

PL, 11-10-8-17-16(+1)-9-15, 30/21/29/29/26/11, +1 Rip, -2 Def

Why would this guy be classified ADM?

Another of mine that has more skills/stats and is freshman

PL, 11-12-7-21-16(+1)-5-13, 29/20/29/25/28/16, +4 Def, +1 Dec

Is it possible that total skills isn't what is used for classification? And it is only learned skills sans the bonus's? Or maybe the bonus's are not added? I dunno just rambling.

If I use the regular stat*2 + skills = DI
The top one should be 148
The bottom one should be: 149

What are their respective win/loss records? Much dispute about whether W/L is counted and how much if so.

Having done enough looking at ADM splits over time with my stuff and the other immortal warriors I have access to, I can say definitively that there are often just things you can't explain, period. The split lines are more general guidelines and you just accept that you have a chance at either class within a certain range. Clearly we don't understand it all.

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:57 pm

If there is an actual formula, I'm sure there is enough linearly-independent data available to assemble a matrix and solve the system.

I don't play in this area so it hasn't drawn my interest.

In the event a group of managers wants to solve the system, I'd be willing to help.
(Time allowing)

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:49 am

Sentinel wrote:

Having done enough looking at ADM splits over time with my stuff and the other immortal warriors I have access to, I can say definitively that there are often just things you can't explain, period. The split lines are more general guidelines and you just accept that you have a chance at either class within a certain range. Clearly we don't understand it all.

Personally, I am of the opinion that burned skills results in a sort of "Two steps forward, one step back" situation when it comes to Freshmen. In most cases my similarly skilled "Crispy" warriors stay Freshmen while my non-stat trained warriors risk being classified ADM.

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:45 pm

Mannequin wrote:

Sentinel wrote:

Having done enough looking at ADM splits over time with my stuff and the other immortal warriors I have access to, I can say definitively that there are often just things you can't explain, period. The split lines are more general guidelines and you just accept that you have a chance at either class within a certain range. Clearly we don't understand it all.

Personally, I am of the opinion that burned skills results in a sort of "Two steps forward, one step back" situation when it comes to Freshmen. In most cases my similarly skilled "Crispy" warriors stay Freshmen while my non-stat trained warriors risk being classified ADM.

We concur.