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Woody
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:14 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The Consortium wrote:
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My lowest is a 3wt 17 will tp...now he had a 21 con as well. I trained that will up to 19 so he was obviously a cement block.
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Just what are you trying to imply about us Teamsters? Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:34 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Woody wrote:
The Consortium wrote:
GreekGuy wrote:
My lowest is a 3wt 17 will tp...now he had a 21 con as well. I trained that will up to 19 so he was obviously a cement block.
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A Teamster?


Just what are you trying to imply about us Teamsters? Wink



Hmmmmm, implications?
Our boss is probably one of few who could say both that his father was a Teamster organizer and also he had the "honor" as a young lad, to sit at a head table with Mr. Jimmy Hoffa. True stuff.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:19 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Assurnasirbanipal wrote:
I'm curious what others have done. I've done 22 total twice:
14-9-12-11-11-14-13 B
14-20-21-8-14-4-3 B (and I know lots have done similar to this design)

Anyone under 20?

I would think around 15 would be about the minimum possible to survive, but what do I know?


I have:

13-12-13-11-10-13-12 Slasher (21 Total)
15-8-19-8-11-10-13 Basher (19 Total)

Those are from my first and second teams respectively.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:41 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The Consortium wrote:
Woody wrote:
The Consortium wrote:
GreekGuy wrote:
My lowest is a 3wt 17 will tp...now he had a 21 con as well. I trained that will up to 19 so he was obviously a cement block.
TGG


A Teamster?


Just what are you trying to imply about us Teamsters? Wink



Hmmmmm, implications?
Our boss is probably one of few who could say both that his father was a Teamster organizer and also he had the "honor" as a young lad, to sit at a head table with Mr. Jimmy Hoffa. True stuff.


Has the FBI questioned you yet? Where is he? You always seemed the somewhat suspicious type as I think about it Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:58 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks everyone for the responses. I'd love to hear if Judith has done lower, but she's not telling, I'm sure...

I'm currently working on an interesting project with a 13 total wit+will. I fully expect I'll see death long before graduation, but you never know unless you try - Born out of a conversation with Suave, theorizing how low wit/will you could run and be successful. My convolution on this was how low wit/will you could get to graduate.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:38 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hey Assur,
We know you don't need stellar WT/WL to have a winning record.

Remember M2 Mallard?

13/11 WT/WL.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:26 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I noticed that same of you tourney all-stars mentioned warriors with less than 7 wits. Since I'm unsure if it's out of pride or embarassment, it would be great to know if these type of low wit warriors can still succeed in modern day D2 given the notion that 17+ wit is generally ideal for success. I have a decent low wit scum (thanks Managerr), but nothing as low as the guys mentioned. This might give hope to all of those with seemingly bad RUs.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:25 am Reply with quoteBack to top

SwineTiger wrote:
I noticed that same of you tourney all-stars mentioned warriors with less than 7 wits. Since I'm unsure if it's out of pride or embarassment, it would be great to know if these type of low wit warriors can still succeed in modern day D2 given the notion that 17+ wit is generally ideal for success. I have a decent low wit scum (thanks Managerr), but nothing as low as the guys mentioned. This might give hope to all of those with seemingly bad RUs.

~ SwineTiger


Not sure of your definition of "succeed in modern day D2" but perhaps this answers it - we have at least 30 warriors running in arenas with less than 11 WT (definitely some 7's and 5's and even a 3 or two) and winning pretty doggone well. 2/3 are scummy; 1/3 are offensive.

A few of these occasionally run in tournaments and have some success.

We regularly run low level ADM warriors (check us out in 106) that have, or at least started, with low to very low WT.

It is definitely easier to win with WT and lotsa skills, but stats and strategy alone do allow an opening for success.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:37 am Reply with quoteBack to top

The lowest to ADM for me.

9/14 TP 32-22 record 69% win
9/15 TP 30-23 record 76%

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:35 am Reply with quoteBack to top

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:39 am Reply with quoteBack to top

My lowest is 22: 11(1)-21-6-11-11-14-11 TP, graduated 32-13-0

Also have a 25: 17-8-9-17-8-8-17 ST, graduated 18-11-2

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:04 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I just emailed Judith and asked her. 3 years ago she had about 450 graduates and that number has only grown. I doubt she will be much lower than some that have already shared. Her design philosophy is to add to Wit and Will off the bat, so I'm not sure what to expect from her.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:20 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Two 24's: 17/7 ST and 17/7 BA

One 23: 4/19 TP

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:16 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

My lowest are both 20.

17(3)-22(1)-3-7(4)-20(3)-12-13(2), TP, TV'ed Rookies, and Initiates (plus ran in multiple TOG's). he got the GS for a fav weapon Confused like I would have ever tried it with him

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18(2)-18(2)-5-7(3)-19(3)-18(1)-11(1), TP, and another GS fav????

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

My 2 lowest are a 13/10 LU (15-6-1) and an 11/10 BA (20-19-1). I have about 4-5 with a total of 24.

I have my broken aimer who started with 18 (4/14) who needs 8 DEC or 13 RIP to get his first Expert, all other areas are -3 or worse still (-5 ATT and -7 DEF still) at 50 FE.

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