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Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:54 am
This is probably my favorite thread on this forum. The info is great. One thing is the learn rate of the warriors. There is a lot of variation; 21 wit with 2.42 per, a 15 wit with 1.62, a 15 wit at 1.12, a 7(+2) wit with 1.28, a 17 wit with 2.41 per fight and so forth. Wit sin't very consistently influential is it.
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Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:24 pm
Action wrote:
This is probably my favorite thread on this forum. The info is great. One thing is the learn rate of the warriors. There is a lot of variation; 21 wit with 2.42 per, a 15 wit with 1.62, a 15 wit at 1.12, a 7(+2) wit with 1.28, a 17 wit with 2.41 per fight and so forth. Wit sin't very consistently influential is it.
It takes a lot of data to see that the WT impact is pretty straight line. HOWEVER, so many other things affect the number of skills learned - such as the opponent's skill collection, etc. (See another post in this sector where a 11 WT TP scum learned five defense skills in one fight, mostly by challenging (and losing to) a very, very skilled warrior.
Action, we are glad you enjoy the posts. It helps us keep making the effort to post it.
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Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:29 pm
#915
9-13-11-17-9-10-15 mode ST
Good dmg, poor endu
16-6-0 arena, no tournaments
2.00 skill learn rate
weapon action:
SS @ 14/130/4
LO @ 3/14/0
DA @ 1/11/0
EP @ 0/4/0
Master (+1) decise, exp (+3) attack
faves: BA, Low/Mod, learns decise
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MarmaDuke Grandmaster Poster
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Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:59 pm
The Consortium wrote:
#915
9-13-11-17-9-10-15 mode ST
Good dmg, poor endu
16-6-0 arena, no tournaments
2.00 skill learn rate
weapon action:
SS @ 14/130/4
LO @ 3/14/0
DA @ 1/11/0
EP @ 0/4/0
Master (+1) decise, exp (+3) attack
faves: BA, Low/Mod, learns decise
Just curious why you never tried the SC on this guy?
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Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:45 pm
MarmaDuke wrote:
The Consortium wrote:
#915
9-13-11-17-9-10-15 mode ST
Good dmg, poor endu
16-6-0 arena, no tournaments
2.00 skill learn rate
weapon action:
SS @ 14/130/4
LO @ 3/14/0
DA @ 1/11/0
EP @ 0/4/0
Master (+1) decise, exp (+3) attack
faves: BA, Low/Mod, learns decise
Just curious why you never tried the SC on this guy?
GREAT question!
While not so many crits with that SS, he kept knocking people down, and I used L a lot; I was almost convinced the SS was a fave, but I certainly should have tried the SC.
Good catch.
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Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:40 am
...916...
8-14-11-16-16-13-6 ambi and +2 Def LU
norm dmg/norm endu
bumped to 9-15-11-17-17-14-7 and to
good damage/good endu
18-6-1 arena, 2DM Titles
skill learn rate - a MASSIVE 3.17 skills/attempt
Master Init; Adex Attack, Defense; Expert Riposte
limited weapon selection, but
SS @ 9-134-2
SH @ 2-20-1
FAVES are: EP, Hi/Hi Learns Attack
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Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:24 pm
..... #917.....
11-9-11-15-15-12-11 ambi SL mode otherwise
Good damage, Normal Endu
20-8-1 in arena no tournaments
3 DM Titles
skill learn rate 1.74
adexes Init, Attack, Decise
weapon use
HA @ 4-27-2
SC @ 15-64-8 1 kill
B1-10-2
DA 0-5-0
presumed fave SC
FAVES: SC Mod/Vlo; learns Decise
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gentleben ArchMaster Poster
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Posted:
Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:30 pm
The Consortium wrote:
...916...
8-14-11-16-16-13-6 ambi and +2 Def LU
norm dmg/norm endu
bumped to 9-15-11-17-17-14-7 and to
good damage/good endu
18-6-1 arena, 2DM Titles
skill learn rate - a MASSIVE 3.17 skills/attempt
Master Init; Adex Attack, Defense; Expert Riposte
limited weapon selection, but
SS @ 9-134-2
SH @ 2-20-1
FAVES are: EP, Hi/Hi Learns Attack
I can't believe you never tried the EP what a rookie
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Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:05 am
gentleben wrote:
The Consortium wrote:
...916...
8-14-11-16-16-13-6 ambi and +2 Def LU
norm dmg/norm endu
bumped to 9-15-11-17-17-14-7 and to
good damage/good endu
18-6-1 arena, 2DM Titles
skill learn rate - a MASSIVE 3.17 skills/attempt
Master Init; Adex Attack, Defense; Expert Riposte
limited weapon selection, but
SS @ 9-134-2
SH @ 2-20-1
FAVES are: EP, Hi/Hi Learns Attack
I can't believe you never tried the EP what a rookie
We can only offer three rationalizations ...
What a dolt!
Didn't remember there WAS an epee.
Lack of experience!
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Darque ArchMaster Poster
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Posted:
Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:32 am
The Consortium wrote:
..... #917.....
11-9-11-15-15-12-11 ambi SL mode otherwise
Good damage, Normal Endu
20-8-1 in arena no tournaments
3 DM Titles
skill learn rate 1.74
adexes Init, Attack, Decise
weapon use
HA @ 4-27-2
SC @ 15-64-8 1 kill
B1-10-2
DA 0-5-0
presumed fave SC
FAVES: SC Mod/Vlo; learns Decise
Even with mediocre numbers and a crappy learn rate, a Decise fave SL can tear up an arena. Too bad they are so rare. I've probably designed dozens just like this and the few that were good were Decise faves (or assumed before they croaked) -- the others were not and just failed miserably.
I study this thread a lot in an effort to try and learn what works. I struggle to get my fighters to win over 50% and I see that you got this guy to win 70%. What was it about this striker that made him win? Was it knack? Wasn't the VL endurance a problem?
Thanks for the thread info!
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I study this thread a lot in an effort to try and learn what works. I struggle to get my fighters to win over 50% and I see that you got this guy to win 70%. What was it about this striker that made him win? Was it knack? Wasn't the VL endurance a problem?
Thanks for the thread info!
Hawk
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Well, everybody wants "more" endurance, for sure.
If an offensive can hit quickly and hit well, it can often win the fight within 1-7 swings and in the first minute; that normally does not take so much endurance burn.
Styles that do not burn so much endu are AB, PS, ST, and both BA, PR to a lesser extent.
Wise challenging and avoiding can help get the best matchups for your warriors of all types, especially those light on endu.
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I study this thread a lot in an effort to try and learn what works. I struggle to get my fighters to win over 50% and I see that you got this guy to win 70%. What was it about this striker that made him win? Was it knack? Wasn't the VL endurance a problem?
Thanks for the thread info!
Hawk
4 Savage Horde
51 Code of Steel
36 Temple of Steel
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Well, everybody wants "more" endurance, for sure.
If an offensive can hit quickly and hit well, it can often win the fight within 1-7 swings and in the first minute; that normally does not take so much endurance burn.
Styles that do not burn so much endu are AB, PS, ST, and both BA, PR to a lesser extent.
Wise challenging and avoiding can help get the best matchups for your warriors of all types, especially those light on endu.
Wanted to wait until The Consortium responded before I put my two cents into the running with little endurance conversation...
1) Use big damage weapons! You'll notice that most of the fights are with BS and SC, both on the higher side of damage.
2) Watch what you are carrying. Every point of weight you add will burn a bit more endurance. I typically do not carry backups and wear very light or no armor on such warriors.
3) Strategy tinkering. I've found if I balance running hot with conserving endurance, I get the most out of my warrior!
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