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Iceman
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:48 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Promising warrior, but tough to decide what to do with him. I know a majority of responses will likely suggest AB. I'd like to get some suggestions other than AB.

Here are my thoughts:

1 - 11-15-10-17-9-5-17 PR
2 - 10-12-10-17-9-5-21 PR (burn ST & CN once each)
3 - 14-12-10-17-9-5-17 PR (burn ST & CN once each)

Any and all feedback appreciated.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:50 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I would go 11-11-10-17-9-5-21 AB or PR, you're much better off NOT trying to raise stats with a 9 WL if you don't have to.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:43 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Iceman wrote:
Promising warrior, but tough to decide what to do with him. I know a majority of responses will likely suggest AB. I'd like to get some suggestions other than AB.

Here are my thoughts:

1 - 11-15-10-17-9-5-17 PR
2 - 10-12-10-17-9-5-21 PR (burn ST & CN once each)
3 - 14-12-10-17-9-5-17 PR (burn ST & CN once each)

Any and all feedback appreciated.


13-13-10-17-9-5-17 PR
11-15-10-17-9-5-17 PR/PS/TP
15-11-10-17-9-5-17 PR

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:48 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Iceman wrote:
Promising warrior, but tough to decide what to do with him. I know a majority of responses will likely suggest AB. I'd like to get some suggestions other than AB.

Here are my thoughts:

1 - 11-15-10-17-9-5-17 PR
2 - 10-12-10-17-9-5-21 PR (burn ST & CN once each)
3 - 14-12-10-17-9-5-17 PR (burn ST & CN once each)

Any and all feedback appreciated.


Non-aimers would bring these thoughts our way .........
11-10-10-17-9-6-21 ST
12-10-10-17-9-5-21 ST
15-10-10-17-9-6-17 ST
17-10-10-17-8-5-17 ST/BA/PR
13-10-10-17-9-8-17 BA
your #1 as PR or PS

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:21 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I like Consortium's first design as a ST reason being you get the 11 ST for weapons and rather than taking it to 12 I want the DEC and INI skill at 6 SP. Then again I might go to 15 ST and drop DF to 17. The question is are you willing to gamble damage being normal, with a pretty decent chance at good and slim at great versus an almost guaranteed good (almost!) with a decent shot at great, against the extra ATT 2 DEF INI RIP etc (more on RIP and INI I forget the chart off-hand). I likely go ST #1 (Consortium) and gamble at the damage.

For PR I'd likely go with your #3 with one difference, using Buri's logic with the added we don't "burn" a PAR and ATT skill.


15-11-10-17-9-5-17 PR (8/12/9/7/5/2 bases) 2 points between ST&CN will bump your carry (I may go once each if necesary and when necessary). If you get great damage it's scary, if it goes all "Daydream Believer" and gets +4 ATT/PAR (with great damage) it's a demon (problem is I wouldn't know how to run it I think... even so...)!

All that said I likely go with a 11-10-10-17-9-6-21 AB myself (it might even survive)!

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:42 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Iceman wrote:
Promising warrior, but tough to decide what to do with him. I know a majority of responses will likely suggest AB. I'd like to get some suggestions other than AB.

Here are my thoughts:

1 - 11-15-10-17-9-5-17 PR
2 - 10-12-10-17-9-5-21 PR (burn ST & CN once each)
3 - 14-12-10-17-9-5-17 PR (burn ST & CN once each)

Any and all feedback appreciated.


I go AB all the time. One of these days 1 will roll +4 att/deffor me!

Without, I see several good choices given including your #1 design. I would be sorely tempted to try Consortium's #1 ST. I've never run a 21 DF Striker before.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:18 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The Consortium wrote:
Iceman wrote:
Promising warrior, but tough to decide what to do with him. I know a majority of responses will likely suggest AB. I'd like to get some suggestions other than AB.

Here are my thoughts:

1 - 11-15-10-17-9-5-17 PR
2 - 10-12-10-17-9-5-21 PR (burn ST & CN once each)
3 - 14-12-10-17-9-5-17 PR (burn ST & CN once each)

Any and all feedback appreciated.


Non-aimers would bring these thoughts our way .........
11-10-10-17-9-6-21 ST
12-10-10-17-9-5-21 ST
15-10-10-17-9-6-17 ST
17-10-10-17-8-5-17 ST/BA/PR
13-10-10-17-9-8-17 BA
your #1 as PR or PS



I like all of the Consortium's picks.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:40 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Longshot wrote:
The Consortium wrote:
Iceman wrote:
Promising warrior, but tough to decide what to do with him. I know a majority of responses will likely suggest AB. I'd like to get some suggestions other than AB.

Here are my thoughts:

1 - 11-15-10-17-9-5-17 PR
2 - 10-12-10-17-9-5-21 PR (burn ST & CN once each)
3 - 14-12-10-17-9-5-17 PR (burn ST & CN once each)

Any and all feedback appreciated.


Non-aimers would bring these thoughts our way .........
11-10-10-17-9-6-21 ST
12-10-10-17-9-5-21 ST
15-10-10-17-9-6-17 ST
17-10-10-17-8-5-17 ST/BA/PR
13-10-10-17-9-8-17 BA
your #1 as PR or PS



I like all of the Consortium's picks.


With a statement like that, we would vote for you for President - or whatever it is that Canada has. Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:28 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Non AB suggestions, I only give my favorites on the Basher and Striker, because there are other ways to make them.

11-15-10-17-9-5-17 TP
15-13-10-17-7-5-17 TP/PR
11-13-10-17-7-5-21 TP/PR/PS/AB
11-10-10-17-9-10-17 B
15-10-10-17-9-6-17 STK

I'd love to completely max skills with 15-10-10-17-7-5-21, but that is one point too many Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:37 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The Consortium wrote:
Longshot wrote:
The Consortium wrote:
Iceman wrote:
Promising warrior, but tough to decide what to do with him. I know a majority of responses will likely suggest AB. I'd like to get some suggestions other than AB.

Here are my thoughts:

1 - 11-15-10-17-9-5-17 PR
2 - 10-12-10-17-9-5-21 PR (burn ST & CN once each)
3 - 14-12-10-17-9-5-17 PR (burn ST & CN once each)

Any and all feedback appreciated.


Non-aimers would bring these thoughts our way .........
11-10-10-17-9-6-21 ST
12-10-10-17-9-5-21 ST
15-10-10-17-9-6-17 ST
17-10-10-17-8-5-17 ST/BA/PR
13-10-10-17-9-8-17 BA
your #1 as PR or PS



I like all of the Consortium's picks.


With a statement like that, we would vote for you for President - or whatever it is that Canada has. Wink


Thanks but I am a Canadian immigrant. I am originally from Alabama. But if I did get votes to become the president, I would insist that Ron Paul is my running mate. Cool


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:42 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Longshot wrote:
The Consortium wrote:
Longshot wrote:
The Consortium wrote:
Iceman wrote:
Promising warrior, but tough to decide what to do with him. I know a majority of responses will likely suggest AB. I'd like to get some suggestions other than AB.

Here are my thoughts:

1 - 11-15-10-17-9-5-17 PR
2 - 10-12-10-17-9-5-21 PR (burn ST & CN once each)
3 - 14-12-10-17-9-5-17 PR (burn ST & CN once each)

Any and all feedback appreciated.


Non-aimers would bring these thoughts our way .........
11-10-10-17-9-6-21 ST
12-10-10-17-9-5-21 ST
15-10-10-17-9-6-17 ST
17-10-10-17-8-5-17 ST/BA/PR
13-10-10-17-9-8-17 BA
your #1 as PR or PS



I like all of the Consortium's picks.


With a statement like that, we would vote for you for President - or whatever it is that Canada has. Wink


Thanks but I am a Canadian immigrant. I am originally from Alabama. But I did get votes to become the president, I would insist that Ron Paul is my running mate. Cool


A far better choice than most.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:37 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The Consortium wrote:
Longshot wrote:
The Consortium wrote:
Longshot wrote:
The Consortium wrote:
Iceman wrote:
Promising warrior, but tough to decide what to do with him. I know a majority of responses will likely suggest AB. I'd like to get some suggestions other than AB.

Here are my thoughts:

1 - 11-15-10-17-9-5-17 PR
2 - 10-12-10-17-9-5-21 PR (burn ST & CN once each)
3 - 14-12-10-17-9-5-17 PR (burn ST & CN once each)

Any and all feedback appreciated.


Non-aimers would bring these thoughts our way .........
11-10-10-17-9-6-21 ST
12-10-10-17-9-5-21 ST
15-10-10-17-9-6-17 ST
17-10-10-17-8-5-17 ST/BA/PR
13-10-10-17-9-8-17 BA
your #1 as PR or PS



I like all of the Consortium's picks.


With a statement like that, we would vote for you for President - or whatever it is that Canada has. Wink


Thanks but I am a Canadian immigrant. I am originally from Alabama. But I did get votes to become the president, I would insist that Ron Paul is my running mate. Cool


A far better choice than most.


AMEN Exclamation Considering we may only have 4.5 hours or less left I say we make Ron Paul President for our last few hours! Laughing (Of course I know the Mayans didn't predict the end of the world it was merely the end of the Calendar that they made and today marked the end of the "Fifth Great Age". Some scientists say it is actually December 23,2012 not 12-21-2012 as well.)

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:39 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks for all the feedback everybody! I really appreciate it!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 2:05 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Iceman wrote:
Thanks for all the feedback everybody! I really appreciate it!


No problem, ask anytime. That goes for anyone who has come here as well. I'm only able to run one team so it's extra RUs for me to toy with personally (may not be the best designer but I hope I am at least "sound"). Plus I've been remiss the prior few months in responding to these so I've been trying to give more info than just throwing up numbers with all these returning and new managers popping in recently (last year or two).

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