OK I'll be the one to say what we're all thinking: NO! Why would you turn a good rollup into a mediocre SCUM? There are plenty of scum rollups out there already. I should know, I seem to DA one every week!
I suppose I should have given him another AB or WoS that everyone else has offered?
Longshot Grandmaster Poster
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Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:50 pm
Bill wrote:
Thanks to those with alternate suggestions, I guess there are still a few managers without the matrix cable plugged into the back of their skull. *sigh* where has the creativity gone.
I was strongly pondering a wos with this, glad to see a couple people may concur.
It has nothing to do with the matrix or that you think we are not as enlightened as you. But It's just common sense. you don't make Wayne Gretsky play soccer. You don't make Michael Jordan box. You don't force a roll up to be something that it isn't. This guy would make a better aimed blow than any other style.
Bill Unchartered Poster
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Posted:
Thu Sep 18, 2014 5:26 am
Longshot wrote:
Bill wrote:
Thanks to those with alternate suggestions, I guess there are still a few managers without the matrix cable plugged into the back of their skull. *sigh* where has the creativity gone.
I was strongly pondering a wos with this, glad to see a couple people may concur.
It has nothing to do with the matrix or that you think we are not as enlightened as you. But It's just common sense. you don't make Wayne Gretsky play soccer. You don't make Michael Jordan box. You don't force a roll up to be something that it isn't. This guy would make a better aimed blow than any other style.
Longshot, slowy unbunch your panties and listen. YOU don't force a roll-up to be something YOU can't see. That is perfectly reasonable, I hope you enjoy playing that way. I simply like running different styles, I thought this roll lent itself to being a viable option for at least 3 styles besides AB. This does not mean I consider myself more enlightened than those who suggested AB, I doubt I am half as enlightened. It does mean that I don't worry about this roll up's distance future and was just looking for fun suggestions from creative minds not yet assimilated into the collective. I am deeply sorry if my desire to do something that seems unnatural to you was found offensive. Never fear my friend, I will not soon sully your forum again in search of fun.
Bill out.
Longshot Grandmaster Poster
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Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:58 am
Bill wrote:
Longshot wrote:
Bill wrote:
Thanks to those with alternate suggestions, I guess there are still a few managers without the matrix cable plugged into the back of their skull. *sigh* where has the creativity gone.
I was strongly pondering a wos with this, glad to see a couple people may concur.
It has nothing to do with the matrix or that you think we are not as enlightened as you. But It's just common sense. you don't make Wayne Gretsky play soccer. You don't make Michael Jordan box. You don't force a roll up to be something that it isn't. This guy would make a better aimed blow than any other style.
Longshot, slowy unbunch your panties and listen. YOU don't force a roll-up to be something YOU can't see. That is perfectly reasonable, I hope you enjoy playing that way. I simply like running different styles, I thought this roll lent itself to being a viable option for at least 3 styles besides AB. This does not mean I consider myself more enlightened than those who suggested AB, I doubt I am half as enlightened. It does mean that I don't worry about this roll up's distance future and was just looking for fun suggestions from creative minds not yet assimilated into the collective. I am deeply sorry if my desire to do something that seems unnatural to you was found offensive. Never fear my friend, I will not soon sully your forum again in search of fun.
Bill out.
First off: I don't wear panties. Second: If I did, they wouldn't be in a bunch.
Now that is out of the way.
You said, "Thanks to those with alternate suggestions, I guess there are still a few managers without the matrix cable plugged into the back of their skull. *sigh* where has the creativity gone."
You asked our opinion you condescending jackass. Don't get an attitude when we give it to you and not say what you want to here. Have a better one.
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Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:51 pm
Consider this:
Reasonable men observe the world around them, and change to conform to it.
Unreasonable men observe the world around them, and expect it to change to conform to them.
Therefore, all change in the world comes from unreasonable men.
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Longshot Grandmaster Poster
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Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:48 pm
I just noticed something. The guy who asked for advice, and got snotty with what he got, didn't have any ideas of his own.
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:50 am
We Consortiumites only respond to "rollup requests/ideas" from those who first post their own thoughts. Hence you haven't heard from us.
This would have been a clear cut aimer to us. Like any roll, it probably has many options, and we normally choose options other than aimer if possible. But we are pretty darned sure we could win the most with this as a dirty, rotten aimed-blow.
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Den Advanced Master Poster
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Posted:
Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:17 am
You are correct Bill, most everyone chants "aimed blow...", but after awhile it is nice to read a fight with a different style. So, i would be strongly tempted to move away from WoS into the TP realm with 8-11-7-16-21-4-17, bump ST and then WT, stand back and watch him tear into the thousand Strikers found in every arena.
Great roll-up compared to what is usually sent our way from the GC. Someone screwed up....
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:18 am
Den wrote:
You are correct Bill, most everyone chants "aimed blow...", but after awhile it is nice to read a fight with a different style. So, i would be strongly tempted to move away from WoS into the TP realm with 8-11-7-16-21-4-17, bump ST and then WT, stand back and watch him tear into the thousand Strikers found in every arena.
Great roll-up compared to what is usually sent our way from the GC. Someone screwed up....
Those numbers might make a decent PR also
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gentleben ArchMaster Poster
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Posted:
Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:19 am
Den wrote:
You are correct Bill, most everyone chants "aimed blow...", but after awhile it is nice to read a fight with a different style. So, i would be strongly tempted to move away from WoS into the TP realm with 8-11-7-16-21-4-17, bump ST and then WT, stand back and watch him tear into the thousand Strikers found in every arena.
Great roll-up compared to what is usually sent our way from the GC. Someone screwed up....
Those numbers might make a decent PR also
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KidArcane Grandmaster Poster
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Posted:
Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:25 am
Gentleben said:
"If I were going to go WS I would go: 13-11-7-11-21-4-17 WS. With the 7SZ you will need more STR than 9 or 11 to do anything worthwhile IMO."
I agree with him, which surprises me. Not so much the stats, or the idea that a 7 SZ NEEDS anything higher than an 11ST, but I like that WoS. I've mostly shied away from AB's because EVERY awesome rollup that I've committed to that style has died before making into the Champions. And I've had at least one double-21. After that last time, I swore: NEVER AGAIN.
Now here you have an 11WT Aimer? I dunno... seems like a target more than a gladiator, don't you think? Has anyone else out there had success with an AB with a WT this low? I would guess that a 13WT is the minimum, but I'm only guessing. I'm no Aimed-Blow expert; I freely admit that.
I would try 11-11-7-13-21-4-17 WoS or TP. I had a similar one decades ago and it did very well. It averaged 2+ skills / fight, which was surprising but I was happy to see it. WoS gives it a good base of skills and the smaller size means that it will dodge well, regardless of AL or style. This guy has more potential to live through Basic, IMO.
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Ikillu Advanced Expert Poster
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Posted:
Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:32 am
9-11-7-15-21-4-17 LU or ST. SS or DA. I would like that rollup.
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