Or is there a minimum number of turns before the Throne becomes available?
Deke Advanced Master Poster
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Posted:
Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:08 am
I will ask RSI. I think it is based on Recognition level. And with 30+ teams it could be a long time before one warrior has a higher recongnition total than eveyone else. On a positive note, it will not be a scum warrior.
As far as the competitons, I an not tracking "IRON THRONE" Points until turn 11.
The Iron Throne Award:
The first team to hold the Duelmaster for 10 turns STARTING ON TURN 11.
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The last couple of new arenas I was involved with (many, many, many years ago) the first Duelmaster was a warrior that either: killed a RSI stand-in, survived the dark arena or had two kills by turn two. I bet we have a duelmaster, with a kill or two, by turn 2 -3.
My suggestion is that you DA your best warrior(s) so that you can become Duelmaster. That is what I'm doing.
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MasterBeru Advanced Master Poster
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Posts: 368
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posted:
Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:09 am
If I recall correctly, there will be. From being part of a few new arenas in the 80s/90s, the title goes to the top warrior on turn 1. This appeared to be determined by:
1) Recognition Level
2) If tied, then best kill record
3) If tied, then most popular (unconfirmed)
4) If tied, then ??? factor
Two arenas that I recall ended up like Deke said and killed stand-ins on turn one to get 20+ recognition. Both were LUs, if my memory is not playing tricks on me. Both of those were cut and dry though with them having more recognition than any other warrior.
I heard about one arena where a DA'd warrior won and got the first turn DM. But I never talked to the manager directly to confirm this. Rumor had it that the warrior was horrid on paper but managed to win several fights in the DA before finally being killed off. Can't say I trust the story though.
Essentially, first DM is a crap shoot. The next three or four turns are not much better. After that skill really shines.
MB
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Posted:
Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:12 am
Chaos Lord will be the first DM!!
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Darque ArchMaster Poster
Joined: Jun 21, 2002
Posts: 2527
Location: Virginia
Posted:
Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:11 am
MasterBeru wrote:
If I recall correctly, there will be. From being part of a few new arenas in the 80s/90s, the title goes to the top warrior on turn 1. This appeared to be determined by:
1) Recognition Level
2) If tied, then best kill record
3) If tied, then most popular (unconfirmed)
4) If tied, then ??? factor
Two arenas that I recall ended up like Deke said and killed stand-ins on turn one to get 20+ recognition. Both were LUs, if my memory is not playing tricks on me. Both of those were cut and dry though with them having more recognition than any other warrior.
I heard about one arena where a DA'd warrior won and got the first turn DM. But I never talked to the manager directly to confirm this. Rumor had it that the warrior was horrid on paper but managed to win several fights in the DA before finally being killed off. Can't say I trust the story though.
Essentially, first DM is a crap shoot. The next three or four turns are not much better. After that skill really shines.
MB
To my knowledge, Popularity has nothing to do with determining the DM. I was not aware that kills played a factor as well. Using DM 28 this past turn as an example, I do not believe it to be true. A new arena could have a different rule set, but there hasn't been a new arena in so long I don't expect many people to remember all the ins and outs.
The only ways to become DM are have the most recognition points or to defeat the reigning DM. Looking it over, I like the idea of using kills as a tie-breaker (afterall it is used in the Current Top Team category) but any factor beyond that is questionable.
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Posts: 368
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posted:
Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:04 pm
Darque wrote:
MasterBeru wrote:
If I recall correctly, there will be. From being part of a few new arenas in the 80s/90s, the title goes to the top warrior on turn 1. This appeared to be determined by:
1) Recognition Level
2) If tied, then best kill record
3) If tied, then most popular (unconfirmed)
4) If tied, then ??? factor
Two arenas that I recall ended up like Deke said and killed stand-ins on turn one to get 20+ recognition. Both were LUs, if my memory is not playing tricks on me. Both of those were cut and dry though with them having more recognition than any other warrior.
I heard about one arena where a DA'd warrior won and got the first turn DM. But I never talked to the manager directly to confirm this. Rumor had it that the warrior was horrid on paper but managed to win several fights in the DA before finally being killed off. Can't say I trust the story though.
Essentially, first DM is a crap shoot. The next three or four turns are not much better. After that skill really shines.
MB
To my knowledge, Popularity has nothing to do with determining the DM. I was not aware that kills played a factor as well. Using DM 28 this past turn as an example, I do not believe it to be true. A new arena could have a different rule set, but there hasn't been a new arena in so long I don't expect many people to remember all the ins and outs.
The only ways to become DM are have the most recognition points or to defeat the reigning DM. Looking it over, I like the idea of using kills as a tie-breaker (afterall it is used in the Current Top Team category) but any factor beyond that is questionable.
The Recognition is the main factor, that is correct. If that does not give a clear "winner" then the next section is used to decide the matter, and so on. So popularity would only come into play if everything else was an exact match.
JE Advanced Expert Poster
Joined: Nov 05, 2002
Posts: 124
Location: Milwaukee, Wi
Posted:
Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:05 pm
On the first turn of an arena the duelmaster is determined by recognition and recognition only. If the two top warriors are tied there will not be a duelmaster until one warrior has more recognition than the others. It will say "position is empty". After that normal rules apply. Either you have to beat the duelmaster or in the event that the current duelmaster doesn't fight (graduation, missing a turn) it goes back to recognition.
JE
Darque wrote:
MasterBeru wrote:
If I recall correctly, there will be. From being part of a few new arenas in the 80s/90s, the title goes to the top warrior on turn 1. This appeared to be determined by:
1) Recognition Level
2) If tied, then best kill record
3) If tied, then most popular (unconfirmed)
4) If tied, then ??? factor
Two arenas that I recall ended up like Deke said and killed stand-ins on turn one to get 20+ recognition. Both were LUs, if my memory is not playing tricks on me. Both of those were cut and dry though with them having more recognition than any other warrior.
I heard about one arena where a DA'd warrior won and got the first turn DM. But I never talked to the manager directly to confirm this. Rumor had it that the warrior was horrid on paper but managed to win several fights in the DA before finally being killed off. Can't say I trust the story though.
Essentially, first DM is a crap shoot. The next three or four turns are not much better. After that skill really shines.
MB
To my knowledge, Popularity has nothing to do with determining the DM. I was not aware that kills played a factor as well. Using DM 28 this past turn as an example, I do not believe it to be true. A new arena could have a different rule set, but there hasn't been a new arena in so long I don't expect many people to remember all the ins and outs.
The only ways to become DM are have the most recognition points or to defeat the reigning DM. Looking it over, I like the idea of using kills as a tie-breaker (afterall it is used in the Current Top Team category) but any factor beyond that is questionable.
pipthetroll Advanced Master Poster
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Posted:
Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:13 pm
Darque wrote:
To my knowledge, Popularity has nothing to do with determining the DM. I was not aware that kills played a factor as well. Using DM 28 this past turn as an example, I do not believe it to be true. A new arena could have a different rule set, but there hasn't been a new arena in so long I don't expect many people to remember all the ins and outs.
The only ways to become DM are have the most recognition points or to defeat the reigning DM. Looking it over, I like the idea of using kills as a tie-breaker (afterall it is used in the Current Top Team category) but any factor beyond that is questionable.
Kills don't play a factor, but you get more recognition for a kill.
Hammer_Minister_of_War ArchMaster Poster
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Posted:
Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:54 pm
BINGO! Correct Answer!
JE wrote:
On the first turn of an arena the duelmaster is determined by recognition and recognition only. If the two top warriors are tied there will not be a duelmaster until one warrior has more recognition than the others. It will say "position is empty". After that normal rules apply. Either you have to beat the duelmaster or in the event that the current duelmaster doesn't fight (graduation, missing a turn) it goes back to recognition.
JE
Darque wrote:
MasterBeru wrote:
If I recall correctly, there will be. From being part of a few new arenas in the 80s/90s, the title goes to the top warrior on turn 1. This appeared to be determined by:
1) Recognition Level
2) If tied, then best kill record
3) If tied, then most popular (unconfirmed)
4) If tied, then ??? factor
Two arenas that I recall ended up like Deke said and killed stand-ins on turn one to get 20+ recognition. Both were LUs, if my memory is not playing tricks on me. Both of those were cut and dry though with them having more recognition than any other warrior.
I heard about one arena where a DA'd warrior won and got the first turn DM. But I never talked to the manager directly to confirm this. Rumor had it that the warrior was horrid on paper but managed to win several fights in the DA before finally being killed off. Can't say I trust the story though.
Essentially, first DM is a crap shoot. The next three or four turns are not much better. After that skill really shines.
MB
To my knowledge, Popularity has nothing to do with determining the DM. I was not aware that kills played a factor as well. Using DM 28 this past turn as an example, I do not believe it to be true. A new arena could have a different rule set, but there hasn't been a new arena in so long I don't expect many people to remember all the ins and outs.
The only ways to become DM are have the most recognition points or to defeat the reigning DM. Looking it over, I like the idea of using kills as a tie-breaker (afterall it is used in the Current Top Team category) but any factor beyond that is questionable.
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Darque ArchMaster Poster
Joined: Jun 21, 2002
Posts: 2527
Location: Virginia
Posted:
Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:29 pm
Darque wrote:
To my knowledge, Popularity has nothing to do with determining the DM. I was not aware that kills played a factor as well. Using DM 28 this past turn as an example, I do not believe it to be true. A new arena could have a different rule set, but there hasn't been a new arena in so long I don't expect many people to remember all the ins and outs.
The only ways to become DM are have the most recognition points or to defeat the reigning DM. Looking it over, I like the idea of using kills as a tie-breaker (afterall it is used in the Current Top Team category) but any factor beyond that is questionable.
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Posted:
Fri Dec 22, 2006 10:46 pm
If an AARDVARK HAMMERZ gladiator is on the throne for Turn 1 then I will be compelled to do something special for the Arena!
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Kat Grandmaster Poster
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Location: DJI Central
Posted:
Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:51 am
Hammer_Minister_of_War wrote:
If an AARDVARK HAMMERZ gladiator is on the throne for Turn 1 then I will be compelled to do something special for the Arena!
Incontinence isn't sexy.
Hammer_Minister_of_War ArchMaster Poster
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Posted:
Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:32 am
Kat wrote:
Hammer_Minister_of_War wrote:
If an AARDVARK HAMMERZ gladiator is on the throne for Turn 1 then I will be compelled to do something special for the Arena!
Incontinence isn't sexy.
Were we to compare stable gladiators you would probably conclude your stable has a much better chance of posting a DM on Turn 1 than mine!
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Kat Grandmaster Poster
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Posted:
Sat Dec 23, 2006 1:21 pm
Hammer_Minister_of_War wrote:
Kat wrote:
Hammer_Minister_of_War wrote:
If an AARDVARK HAMMERZ gladiator is on the throne for Turn 1 then I will be compelled to do something special for the Arena!
Incontinence isn't sexy.
Were we to compare stable gladiators you would probably conclude your stable has a much better chance of posting a DM on Turn 1 than mine!
Eh - not entirely sure about that. As I've become older, my interest has shifted from the straight W/L % to 'finding intricacies' and experimenting. This isn't my best-fielded team (by any strech of the imagination) - but we'll see
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