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SirJessieJest
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:51 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I have an 11 wit AB (w-21will-21def) that has about 26FE or so has a winning record 16-12 but not awesome. The last few fights didn't get a single learn, which is kinda depressing consider she is a slow learner anyways. I just want her to graduate with an above 50% win record, but I am afraid her slow learning will prevent this. What is the max FE before a warrior is kicked out of Basic, thought it was 50FE, just checking, its been a couple decades since I played actively. Have been playing a year now since I been back. Smile I don't talk much cause I own a company now, hard to have time to chat.

I was wondering about other managers luck with lower wit offensive styles in basic and what their graduation records where like.
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Another thing I was wondering is if anyone out there ever got a warrior that wasn't a TP or AB to graduate with just doing "Little damage" and what their graduation record was like.

Thanks in advance,

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:12 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

http://www.duel2.info/graduation.html

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:22 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I graduated a little damage PS not long ago. 22-12-1.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:35 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I have also graduated a little damage PS, at 14-13-0. He was 13(+2)-13-3-15-17-12-13, the stat bumps didn't work, and he immediately retired upon graduation.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:19 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

SirJessieJest wrote:
Another thing I was wondering is if anyone out there ever got a warrior that wasn't a TP or AB to graduate with just doing "Little damage" and what their graduation record was like.

Thanks in advance,

Sir Jessie Jest


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:51 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Keep an eye on 18. The DM Kill Kitten is at 60+ FE, and has a 3 WT. She also has 40+ PP's (maybe closer to 60 since she has been the DM for along time, and has 2 TV's). She has an AdEx in Att and no other ratings. According to Assur she should get her invte at 40 Arena fights (which is like 2 more fights in arena). If you read this turns DM Column you'll get a better idea of what is happening with her.

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As for little damage I do it with LU's all the time. Infact I've TV'ed with little damage LU's (of course they were TL's). Most defensive's (AB's also) should be able to graduate with a winning record even with little damage (you just have to work at it abit harder).

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:19 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I just checked Kill Kitten's stats. I am amazed that you got the title and kept it.


RascallyRabbit wrote:
Keep an eye on 18. The DM Kill Kitten is at 60+ FE, and has a 3 WT. She also has 40+ PP's (maybe closer to 60 since she has been the DM for along time, and has 2 TV's). She has an AdEx in Att and no other ratings. According to Assur she should get her invte at 40 Arena fights (which is like 2 more fights in arena). If you read this turns DM Column you'll get a better idea of what is happening with her.

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As for little damage I do it with LU's all the time. Infact I've TV'ed with little damage LU's (of course they were TL's). Most defensive's (AB's also) should be able to graduate with a winning record even with little damage (you just have to work at it abit harder).
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:14 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I think I've nailed down her OE, but she's definitely not running on fav AL. She is ambi and I think that makes a big difference. Her primary weapon is always OH, but I run a real weapon in her off-hand that she is well suited to (SC, BS, etc...). Her fights almost always read like she is fighting with the off-hand weapon as her primary (one of those program glitch's?), and she throws alot of crits! She doesn't have a exp in Def or Par, but she dodges above her skill level, and also parries significantly better than she should be able to. If I was to guess ambi is helping with the parry, and the OH for primary weapon (plus possibly the ambi) is helping with the dodge? Otherwise I have no explanation for why she keeps winning.


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I just checked Kill Kitten's stats. I am amazed that you got the title and kept it.


RascallyRabbit wrote:
Keep an eye on 18. The DM Kill Kitten is at 60+ FE, and has a 3 WT. She also has 40+ PP's (maybe closer to 60 since she has been the DM for along time, and has 2 TV's). She has an AdEx in Att and no other ratings. According to Assur she should get her invte at 40 Arena fights (which is like 2 more fights in arena). If you read this turns DM Column you'll get a better idea of what is happening with her.

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As for little damage I do it with LU's all the time. Infact I've TV'ed with little damage LU's (of course they were TL's). Most defensive's (AB's also) should be able to graduate with a winning record even with little damage (you just have to work at it abit harder).

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:17 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:52 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

SirJessieJest wrote:
I was wondering about other managers luck with lower wit offensive styles in basic and what their graduation records where like.


All my basher grads that started 12 or less wit:
11-6-15-11-15-14-12, graduated 20-9
11-7-19-11-21-4-11, graduated 15-8
18-12-8-3-19-10-14, graduated 23-16
11-8-13-9-15-13-15, graduated 18-13
15-7-9-10-17-5-21, graduated 24-13
14-9-12-11-11-14-13, graduated 20-15
11-21-6-11-15-9-11, graduated 21-17
14-20-21-8-14-4-3, graduated 22-29
13-9-14-12-11-14-11, graduated 16-22
12-15-14-7-18-13-5, graduated 23-30

I believe all but the last were not entered in more than a single tourney during basic.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:27 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

SirJessieJest wrote:
I was wondering about other managers luck with lower wit offensive styles in basic and what their graduation records where like.


Here are my low Wits (13 and below) and I know the PLs aren't technically offensive, but that is how I ran them, so I included them:

21-5-7-11-17-8-15 BA -- 23-27-3

11-6-10-11-21-10-15 LU -- 16-4-1

13-6-4-13-17-10-21 AB -- 18-6-0

10-12-10-13-17-5-17 PL -- 15-7-0

11-8-12-13-17-6-17 PL -- 24-24-2

11-12-9-11-17-7-17 SL -- 19-13-0

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:36 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I only have eight guys on the Isle. But I will throw in the guys that had 13 or less wits.

9-10-8-13-15-16-13 LU 30-20-0
19-8-5-12-14-13-13 ST 26-22-0
11-10-11-10-18-14-11 LU 24-18-1


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:40 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

13-5-14-12-20-10-10, burner LU, graduated 22-18-1
11-9-6-11-17-9-21 AB, graduated 14-10-1

those are the only two "lower wit" offensives I've graduated. They only had a handful of tourney FE.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:34 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Rough cut estimate after a back glance at data

appx 20 offensives in recent years (much more in the past) wit 11max WT
lowest 1 @5, 1 @6, 3 @7
first 4 BA, last ST
the 5 WT went 25-14
the 6 went 26-18
skills, obviously were what held up graduation.
the average W/L of the collection was just over 60%

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