DUEL 2 NEWSLETTER

Date   : 11/09/2016    Duedate: 12/06/2016

STORMCROWE ARENA

DM-45    TURN-378

This Weeks Top Honors

THE DUELMASTER IS

MADAME HYDRA
DARQUE FORCES (428)
(45-4752) [15-5-1,130]

Chartered Recognition Leader   Unchartered Recognition Leader

MADAME HYDRA                   POSITION IS EMPTY
DARQUE FORCES (428)            
(45-4752) [15-5-1,130]         

Popularity Leader              This Weeks Favorite

SNAEGH                         SNAEGH
GOING BERSERK (527)            GOING BERSERK (527)
(45-4792) [18-4-0,91]          (45-4792) [18-4-0,91]

THE CURRENT TOP TEAM

DARQUE FORCES (428)

          TEAMS ON THE MOVE            TOP CAREER HONORS
Team Name                  Point Gain  Chartered Team
1. MAIDEN JAPAN (504)          33
2. KNIGHT BREED (403)          28      GOING BERSERK (527)
3. DARQUE FORCES (428)         26      Unchartered Team
4. GOING BERSERK (527)         14
5. SHEWISH BUFFET (520)        10      HOUSE OF LORDS (169)

The Top Teams

Career Win-Loss Record           W   L  K    %  Win-Loss Record Last 3 Turns    W  L K
 1/ 1 GOING BERSERK (527)       48  27  5 64.0   1/ 2 DARQUE FORCES (428)       8  2 1
 2/ 2 DARQUE FORCES (428)      526 309 34 63.0   2/ 1 GOING BERSERK (527)       7  5 2
 3/ 0 AVID FANS (65)           185 165 19 52.9   3/ 3 KNIGHT BREED (403)        4  6 2
 4/ 3 KNIGHT BREED (403)        56  55  2 50.5   4/ 0 MAIDEN JAPAN (504)        3  2 0
 5/ 0 SHEWISH BUFFET (520)      94 101  8 48.2   5/ 0 SHEWISH BUFFET (520)      1  1 0
 6/ 0 MAIDEN JAPAN (504)        28  33  2 45.9   6/ 0 AVID FANS (65)            1  3 0

    '*'   Unchartered team                       '-'  Team did not fight this turn
   (###)  Avoid teams by their Team Id          ##/## This turn's/Last turn's rank

                                      SPY REPORT

     I can't believe the violence in STORMCROWE!  I still haven't told Mom I'm 
writing Spyreports.  She'd have a cow!  Well, here we go...  Too bad, GOING BERSERK, 
but DARQUE FORCES was just too good to be stopped.  MVP award for WRATHCHILD?  MAIDEN 
JAPAN's proud of him after beating AN ARENA DOCTOR and getting 20 points.  Talk about 
yer big time losers!  AN ARENA DOCTOR got smashed by WRATHCHILD, and lost 11 points!  
Don't you think the Duelmaster is being unfair?  I think MADAME HYDRA should let 
PLAY-BY-PLAY MAN be Duelmaster for a while, without fighting about it.  Who was the 
wiseguy that said STORMCROWE's Duelmaster was paying for drinks at The Shadow's 
Fountain?  Don't look at me!   
     So just why would someone becomes a warrior anyway?  It can't be for these 
really neat Spyreports can it?  The warriors of GOING BERSERK must be getting lonely. 
They were the most avoided team.  Do you guys know something that I don't?  Hhmph!  
What kind of warriors are AVID FANS?  GOING BERSERK, an easy team to beat if I ever 
saw one, can't get them to accept an invitation!  Can GOING BERSERK's UKKO be more 
popular than me?  He was challenged the most, but is that really the same?  For sure, 
I was holding my breath when I found out WAR MAIDEN challenged SNAEGH.  After all, 
haven't DARQUE FORCES and GOING BERSERK had a long standing duel in STORMCROWE?  It 
wasn't a spectacular fight, or anything, but SNAEGH wants me to write about it since 
he beat WAR MAIDEN.  Satisfied?   
     Challenges, revenges, Bloodfeuds.  All STORMCROWE ever talks about is fighting!  
Me, I'm more laid back.  D'ya think MADAME HYDRA is feeling guilty for killing AVID 
FANS' PLAY-BY-PLAY MAN, a mere boy?  Naah, I doubt it.  I see PLAY-BY-PLAY MAN got 
killed by MADAME HYDRA of DARQUE FORCES.  Now I want to see some serious Bloodfeud 
action out there!  Hey you guys, don't you think your families would like to hear 
from you?  Write!  (Or have someone write for you.)  
     Remember, blood on a purple robe may stain.  Soak it in cold water, and hand 
wash.  I know how much you like reading this stuff, but I really should stop.  I had 
a fun time, see you later-- Debby Tonte  

DUELMASTER                     W   L  K POINTS      TEAM NAME                  
 MADAME HYDRA 4752            15   5  1   130       DARQUE FORCES (428)

CHALLENGER CHAMPIONS           W   L  K POINTS      TEAM NAME                  
 SCANDAL SAVAGE 4753          14   6  1    97       DARQUE FORCES (428)
 UKKO 4780                    12   3  1    95       GOING BERSERK (527)
 SNAEGH 4792                  18   4  0    91       GOING BERSERK (527)

CHAMPIONS                      W   L  K POINTS      TEAM NAME                  
 MARSH FELLOW 4815             6   2  1    71       SHEWISH BUFFET (520)

CHALLENGER ADEPTS              W   L  K POINTS      TEAM NAME                  
 WAR MAIDEN 4743              13  11  1    66       DARQUE FORCES (428)
 WRATHCHILD 4407               7   6  0    62       MAIDEN JAPAN (504)
 RAYNOR 3549                  12  10  1    60       KNIGHT BREED (403)

ADEPTS                         W   L  K POINTS      TEAM NAME                  
 AN ARENA DOCTOR 4175         11  13  1    51       AVID FANS (65)
 THE TROOPER 4481              5   3  0    50       MAIDEN JAPAN (504)
 A REPORTER 4758               6   3  1    43       AVID FANS (65)
 SECURITY GUARD 4825           3   3  0    39       AVID FANS (65)

CHALLENGER INITIATES           W   L  K POINTS      TEAM NAME                  
 SLOPPY JOE 4797               5  11  0    32       SHEWISH BUFFET (520)
 STARWIND 4684                 4   4  0    30       KNIGHT BREED (403)
 BEA LIGERENT 4812             4   2  0    28       DARQUE FORCES (428)
 LADY MACDEATH 4774            6   6  1    26       DARQUE FORCES (428)
 RIME-ANCIENT MARINER 4496     4   1  0    25       MAIDEN JAPAN (504)
 RUNNING FREE 4406             6   6  0    24       MAIDEN JAPAN (504)

INITIATES                      W   L  K POINTS      TEAM NAME                  
 BRAVE NEW WORLD 4453          3   7  2    18       MAIDEN JAPAN (504)
 HARLOCK 4876                  1   0  0    13       KNIGHT BREED (403)
 SPACE DANDY 4875              1   0  1    11       KNIGHT BREED (403)

'-' denotes a warrior who did not fight this turn.

THE DEAD                W  L K TEAM NAME            SLAIN BY              TURN Revenge?
PERSISTENT BEGGA        0  0 0                      SPACE DANDY 4875      378  NONE

THE DEAD                W  L K TEAM NAME            SLAIN BY              TURN Revenge?
PLAY-BY-PLAY MAN 4754   5  3 1 AVID FANS 65         MADAME HYDRA 4752     378   
DA2 4873                1  1 1 GOING BERSERK 527    SPYMASTER             378  NONE
DA4 4877                0  1 0 GOING BERSERK 527    MOUNTAIN TROLL        378  NONE
DEADER 4874             0  1 0 KNIGHT BREED 403     STONE GOLEM           378  NONE
KERRIGAN 3545          13  8 0 KNIGHT BREED 403     UKKO 4780             377   

                                     PERSONAL ADS

                                  LAST WEEK'S FIGHTS

DA2 was butchered by SPYMASTER in a 2 minute bloody Dark Arena fight.
DEADER was slaughtered by STONE GOLEM in a 1 minute gruesome Dark Arena battle.
DA4 was killed by MOUNTAIN TROLL in a 2 minute gruesome Dark Arena fight.
RAYNOR was devastated by UKKO in a 1 minute one-sided Bloodfeud contest.
WAR MAIDEN was defeated by SNAEGH in a 4 minute master's Challenge match.
MADAME HYDRA assassinated PLAY-BY-PLAY MAN in a 1 minute one-sided Title struggle.
SCANDAL SAVAGE devastated CONVICTED ASSASSIN in a 1 minute one-sided competition.
MARSH FELLOW handily defeated A REPORTER in a 1 minute uneven melee.
AN ARENA DOCTOR was vanquished by WRATHCHILD in a 1 minute one-sided duel.
THE TROOPER vanquished LADY MACDEATH in a 1 minute one-sided duel.
STARWIND defeated BRAVE NEW WORLD in a 2 minute gruesome match.
SECURITY GUARD overpowered SLOPPY JOE in a 1 minute one-sided fight.
RIME-ANCIENT MARINER subdued CULT MEMBER in a 6 minute competition.
BEA LIGERENT overcame RUNNING FREE in a 5 minute brutal contest.
HARLOCK demolished CONVICTED THIEF in a 1 minute one-sided brawl.
SPACE DANDY put to death PERSISTENT BEGGAR in a 2 minute novice's conflict.

                                    BATTLE REPORT

             MOST POPULAR                        RECORD DURING THE LAST 10 TURNS     
|FIGHTING STYLE               FIGHTS        FIGHTING STYLE     W -   L -  K   PERCENT|
|LUNGING ATTACK                   4         PARRY-STRIKE       9 -   2 -  0      82  |
|STRIKING ATTACK                  4         WALL OF STEEL      6 -   2 -  2      75  |
|WALL OF STEEL                    4         PARRY-RIPOSTE      2 -   1 -  0      67  |
|AIMED BLOW                       3         STRIKING ATTACK   10 -   7 -  2      59  |
|TOTAL PARRY                      3         TOTAL PARRY        4 -   3 -  1      57  |
|BASHING ATTACK                   3         LUNGING ATTACK    13 -  10 -  2      57  |
|SLASHING ATTACK                  2         PARRY-LUNGE        2 -   2 -  0      50  |
|PARRY-STRIKE                     1         BASHING ATTACK    11 -  18 -  0      38  |
|PARRY-RIPOSTE                    1         SLASHING ATTACK    5 -  10 -  1      33  |
|PARRY-LUNGE                      0         AIMED BLOW         6 -  13 -  1      32  |

Turn 378 was great if you     Not so great if you used      The fighting styles of the
used the fighting styles:     the fighting styles:          top eleven warriors are:

PARRY-STRIKE       1 -  0     PARRY-LUNGE        0 -  0         3  LUNGING ATTACK 
PARRY-RIPOSTE      1 -  0     BASHING ATTACK     0 -  3         2  AIMED BLOW     
AIMED BLOW         2 -  1                                       2  WALL OF STEEL  
TOTAL PARRY        2 -  1                                       2  STRIKING ATTACK
LUNGING ATTACK     2 -  2                                       1  PARRY-STRIKE   
SLASHING ATTACK    1 -  1                                       1  BASHING ATTACK 
STRIKING ATTACK    2 -  2     
WALL OF STEEL      2 -  2     

                               TOP WARRIOR OF EACH STYLE

FIGHTING STYLE   WARRIOR                     W   L  K PNTS TEAM NAME                  
LUNGING ATTACK   MADAME HYDRA 4752          15   5  1  130 DARQUE FORCES (428)
AIMED BLOW       SCANDAL SAVAGE 4753        14   6  1   97 DARQUE FORCES (428)
WALL OF STEEL    UKKO 4780                  12   3  1   95 GOING BERSERK (527)

FIGHTING STYLE   WARRIOR                     W   L  K PNTS TEAM NAME                  
PARRY-STRIKE     SNAEGH 4792                18   4  0   91 GOING BERSERK (527)
STRIKING ATTACK  MARSH FELLOW 4815           6   2  1   71 SHEWISH BUFFET (520)
BASHING ATTACK   A REPORTER 4758             6   3  1   43 AVID FANS (65)
Note: Warriors have a winning record and are an Adept or Above.

The overall popularity leader is SNAEGH 4792.  The most popular warrior this turn was 
SNAEGH 4792.  The ten other most popular fighters were BEA LIGERENT 4812, DA4 4877, 
WAR MAIDEN 4743, STARWIND 4684, BRAVE NEW WORLD 4453, RUNNING FREE 4406, UKKO 4780, 
MADAME HYDRA 4752, SCANDAL SAVAGE 4753, and MARSH FELLOW 4815.

The least popular fighter this week was RIME-ANCIENT MARINER 4496.  The other ten 
least popular fighters were SPACE DANDY 4875, SLOPPY JOE 4797, LADY MACDEATH 4774, AN 
ARENA DOCTOR 4175, A REPORTER 4758, PLAY-BY-PLAY MAN 4754, DEADER 4874, RAYNOR 3549, 
DA2 4873, and HARLOCK 4876.

                   An Informative Guide to the Parry-Riposte Style

                             composed by Sir Jessie Jest

     Greetings to all.  After many weeks of compiling a database with informationon 
the parry-riposte, I would like to thank the many managers that donated their time and 
effort to make this project work.  We all hope that many managers benefit from these 
efforts to further the interest in this style.
     This article can also be found in the Duel Masters Web page on the internet at:  
http://www.netis.com/johnh/dm.htm 
     Also, for those of you who have e-mail access, I invite you to join in on the DM 
discussions on the Roundtable.  The roundtable is a forum that discusses anything that 
has to do with Duelmasters.  It is made up of many other DM managers like yourself, 
and will answer any question you have about the game.  To join the Round Table send e-
mail to listserv@ambience.com.au with the message "Subscribe Duel-L Your Name".

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     Parry-ripostes, or rippers, can be very deadly if trained and managed 
effectively.  Rippers aren't as widely understood as the more common high skill base 
styles are.   They do draw managers who like more of a challenge.  It is not a style 
for quick fix, so to speak.   They start with much less skill and development than 
many other styles.  This means they require a much longer development time before 
reaching that successful stage.  Rippers are not good short-term warriors.  They lack 
what it takes to get many wins early in their career.   When you make a ripper, you're 
in for the long haul.
     When making a ripper, it is good to think about making him survive through Basic.  
Rippers have the second highest death rate, with aimed blows being the first.  The 
main reasons for this, I believe, are poor warrior design and/or poor strategy.  
Rippers, even if designed exactly the same, vary more from one to another than most 
styles in general.  The aimed blow, I believe, is the only other style that varies 
more widely from one to another than the ripper.  Finding your ripper's likes and 
dislikes may be quite a task, indeed.
     The first thing to get a good ripper is warrior design.   His starting stats will 
greatly effect his starting skill bases as well.   Since rippers starting skill base 
is lower than some of the other styles, getting as many bonus skills from initial 
stats is very important.   These bonus skills are given most in the WIT and DEFTNESS 
stats.   Odd numbered stats are where most of the bonus skills are at, such as 13, 15, 
17 and 21.  There are no bonus stats to be gained at 19 in any stat except speed.  
Good rippers will have a minimum of 32 points between wit and deftness.  34 or more 
points is preferred. 17 or 21 WT and 17 or 21 DT makes the best rippers.

Ripper stats:

Strength:      7-11  gives you the range you need for all ripper weapons.

Con:           10-14 helps keep your ripper alive and helps with encumbrance.  A wise 
               manager would put any left over points here, rather than speed.  We'll
               get to that in a minute.

Size:          3-11,  no bigger.  It's a waste of points and kills your defense, which 
               is one thing that will keep your ripper alive.

Wit:           15, 17 or 21 -- No less.  You need the bonus skills and the quick 
               learning to make up for the lower skill base.

Will:          15+  Not necessary, but to be successful quicker in ADM get at least a 
               15.

Speed:         5-9   Speed is the most disputed thing among ripper managers.  It is 
               split 50/50 on its contribution to a rippers success.  I believe any 
               extra points left over after adding to odd number WT, WL, and DF should 
               go to CON, not speed.  It makes no difference whether you get those 
               skills gained from speed now, or later on.  They are still the same 
               number of skills.  Those few skills won't make as much difference 
               now, as CON does in keeping the ripper ALIVE.   A dead ripper's bases 
               don't matter much, now, do they?  ;)

Deftness       15,17, or 21 no less.  This is a MUST.  Deftness gives the most bonus 
               skills out of all the stats.   Unlike other styles, which start out 
               with higher bases, a ripper needs all the bonuses he can get.  Don't 
               skimp here.  Also, many of the rippers weapons require high deftness.

     The average skill bonuses you get for the parry-riposte style are as follows: 
(Taken from the "Ween Chart" that includes decimals)
Skill                                                Bonus
======                                               ======
Attack                                               -1.6
Parry                                                -0.1
Defense                                              -3
Initiative                                           3.1
Decise                                               1.8
Riposte                                              4.6

     Naturally, rippers get more bonus skills in the riposte area.  To help  
understand that chart, round the numbers up to the nearest whole number.   Example, 
Decise 1.8 = 2 extra decise skills.  There is no way to predict exactly what your 
ripper's starting skills will be.  But you can get a good idea when your get your 
overview back by using the skill chart which is not listed here.  There is the luck 
factor, which is a random number that RSI gives to make sure no two warriors are 
exactly alike.  Some are blessed and get more than average skills, whereas others get 
considerably less.  Rippers in general seem to get LESS more than MORE skill in the 
luck factor part of character generation.
     Listed below are some examples of actual rippers in ADM and Primus.Please take 
note of the + or extra skills these rippers received with thestats they have.  Notice 
the amount of extra skills they received from high WIT and DEFTNESS.  The luck factor 
had some play in these startingbases.  These are also examples of when the luck factor 
gives you MOREstarting base skills.  The one at the bottom, with the -2 skills, is an 
exampleof bad luck.  The average skill base totals is +4.8 or 5 skills rounded up.That 
means that if you get a ripper with more than + 5 skills to his base,he is lucky.  
Less than + 5 he is unlucky, depending on his stats.  If theripper has less than a 32 
total points WIT and DEFTNESS, his chancesof getting less than +5 is MUCH higher.   If 
you get more than +5 skills withless than 32 points in your WIT and DEFTNESS total,  
you a very lucky.One exception is when you have a 30 WIT/DEFTNESS total and a 21 
WILL.Then you should get +5 or better to your skill base.  If not, you are unlucky.

ST-CN-SZ-WT-WL-SP-DF    BASE: ATT    INIT   DEC    DEF    PAR   RIP      (Bonus +/-)
17-13-4-17-9-9-15             60(0)  60(+4) 30(+2) 40(-1) 45(+1) 65(+5);     +11
9-13-8-17-15-5-17             55(-1) 55(+4) 15(0)  30(-4) 55(+3) 70(+6);     +8
11-9-12-15-17-5-17            55(0)  35(+2) 20(+1) 30(-3) 45(-1) 75(+9);     +8
9-12-5-17-15-9-17             45(-3) 50(+1) 40(+3) 45(-2) 40(0)  70(+5);     +4
10-10-9-21-15-4-15            60(-1) 50(+2) 45(+5) 35(-4) 35(0)  65(+5);     +7
8-9-7-17-17-9-17              50(-3) 50(-1) 50(+4) 50(-2) 40(+1) 85(+8);     +5
8-10-12-17-17-3-17            60(-1) 45(0)  25(+2) 30(-5) 40(+1) 55(+4);     +1
8-9-8-15-11-12-21             50(-2) 75(+5) 35(+2) 35(-4) 50(+1) 80(+5);     +7
12-10-8-17-11-9-17            40(-3) 45(0)  40(+4) 30(-4) 15(-4) 70(+5);     -2

     The numbers in the parenthesis are the + or - the projected skill base for that 
set of numbers.  Example:  +5 means that he got 5 more than the average projection.  
Pluses are good and minuses are bad.
     A simple method to see whether or not your ripper was lucky is to add the WIT and 
DEFTNESS together.  If it is above 32 then you should get + 5 as an average, and any 
more than +5 is lucky.  The higher the WIT/DEFTNESS total the higher the average.  
This is a quick guesstimate to see if your ripper was unlucky at getting a good number 
starting skills.  It is not an exact way to tell.  You can tell more accurately by 
using the skill chart that lists the skill bonuses, and the style modifiers.
     Good WIT statements for a good ripper include high order ATTACK, DEFENSE, and 
PARRY.   An initiative statement is nice, but harder to come by for a ripper, unless 
you give up one of those 3 up there.  If you get ATTACK, DEFENSE, PARRY and INITIATIVE 
high order you have a GREAT ripper.   Rippers almost always get some kind of Riposte 
statement.  Riposte isn't really as important as those 4 up there are in the long run.  
Decise skill is meaningless to a ripper. 

ARMOR
-----------
     Rippers should wear heavy armor at the beginning of their career.  It is  better 
to run a ripper defensively or `scum' him for awhile until he gains more skill.  When 
he starts getting his experts in defense and parry, then you can take off some armor.   
Rippers are more like to DIE in their first 10-15 fights than later on when they have 
more skill and experience.
     Some people don't like playing defensively, and run them offensively at the 
beginning.  Rippers are long term projects and are not ready for this.  They lack the 
skill and experience to do this in the beginning.  For this reason, and the fact most 
people don't put much armor on them at the start of their career, is why so many 
rippers DIE.  Putting heavy armor on them and playing them defensively, increases the 
ripper's chance to make it to ADM ALIVE.  I've put rippers in ACM and APA in basic for 
their first 15 fights.  It keeps them alive and gets them learns without affecting 
their performance.

Weapons
-------------

     Your ripper's favorite weapon is VERY important.  Rippers have a very limited 
number of weapons to choose from, but do have some good ones.

     This is a list of ripper weapons.  They are listed in order of which is best to 
which is worst according to a poll of 58 ripper mgrs.

1.  Scimitar -- The best ripper weapon, without question.
2.  Longsword
3.  Epee -- I wouldn't advise using this weapon in Basic.
4.  Shortsword
5.  Shortspear
6.  Longspear
7.  Hatchet

     Using that chart above, you can tell whether or not your ripper got stuck with a 
lousy favorite weapon.  Down below is more info on ripper's favorite weapons.

Out of 44 parry-ripostes, the following is a chart of the favorite weapons they got:  
EP (11), SC (8), LO (8), LS (4), SS (7), SH (6)
     Notice that most got the top 3 ripper weapons.  Just hope your ripper doesn't get 
stuck with a lame weapon.

Off-hand weapon
------------------------
     Rippers do better with 2 weapons than one.  In ADM, a ripper can use either one 
or 2 and still be effective.  Shortswords and hatchets are the most effective.  
Daggers and shields are OK, but not really good in ADM.  If you have a ripper with 
high enough deftness, twin longswords or scimitars can be devastating.  Rippers have 
an unusually high chance of being ambidextrous.

Strategy- Using tactics
-------------------------------
     Rippers in general don't react well to tactics.  This is agreed on by most ripper 
managers.  They can use lunge, dodge, response and parry to some effectiveness.  Out 
of 44 rippers, 3 got Lunge, 6 got Riposte, and 3 got Parry as a favorite tactic.  
Riposte tactic is lame, and should never be used on a ripper.  He ripostes well enough 
without that tactic.  All it will do is penalize him in other important areas.

Strategy- (favorite rhythms)
-------------------------------------
     Unlike other styles, the ripper favorite rhythm is used more closely.  Most 
managers use different strategies in basic than they do in ADM for their rippers.   
They play it more by ear in Basic, and stick mostly to the ripper's favorite rhythms 
in ADM.  Unless, of course, they have very bad rhythms for favorites.  Then they may 
go back to playing it by ear.

Below is a graph of 44 Parry - Riposte's favorite rhythms.

A. L. -- O. E.      VL         LO         MO        HI         VH   TOTALS
VL                   3          1          2         0          0      6
LO                   2          1          2         2          0      7   
MO                   2         19          0         1          0     22
HI                   2          0          5         2          0      9
VH                   0          0          0         0          0      0
TOTALS               9         21          9         5          0

     As you can see, most of the favorites for a Parry Riposte fall in the LOW 
offensive and moderate activity range.
     To give someone an example of a basic strategy, I will give you an example below.

MIN      1         2        3       4        5         6        Desp.

OL       2         2        2       4        4         3           7
AL       2         2        2        4       4         2           7
KD       5         5        5        6       6         5           5
Att     RA----------------------------------------------->
Pro     HE----------------------------------------------->

     You can experiment with other strategies, and might even check out how your 
ripper likes tactics.
     In ADM, I'd stick with the favorite rhythms, unless they aren't working for him.

Best style match-ups for a ripper in basic are: PR, TP, BA, PS, WS.
Worst in Basic are :  SL, LU, AB, PL, ST.

Best style Match-ups in ADM are: TP, PR, BA, ST, PS.
Worst in ADM are : LU, SL, WS, PL, AB.

     Well, that should be enough information to get any manager started with a good 
ripper.   If you need more information about rippers or anything else about DM, 
contact me.   I can be reached via e-mail at 103260.3347@ compuserve.com or you can 
Diplo me at the Joker's Wild 2 in DM 75.  I hope this helped someone.

Cheers,
Sir Jessie Jest

Credits -- Major contributors:

Mitch Nakagawa -AKA- Sensei                          Slowburn
Glenn Uren -AKA- Heretic                             JRK
Jeanette Jerles -AKA- Shark                          Jester
Gary Triplett -AKA- Miles                            The Boss Man
The Lunatic                                          Voo-Doo
Assurnasirbanipal                                    Soultaker
Lord Bosk                                            Buri
C.J Caviness -AKA- The Visionist                     Doctor Scot
Manager(Dwayne)                                      Revenant
Eric Goche                                           Seeker
Rajesh Nanda
Johan Behrenfeldt -AKA- Bartender  

and many others.