DUEL 2 NEWSLETTER Date : 01/12/2022 Duedate: 01/25/2022 SHADOWSPIRE ARENA DM-81 TURN-389 This Weeks Top Honors THE DUELMASTER IS ANDURIL MIRKWOOD ORCS (188) (81-3435) [22-14-0,112] Chartered Recognition Leader Unchartered Recognition Leader ANDURIL YRVO MIRKWOOD ORCS (188) PEN ISLAND SKEETERS (195) (81-3435) [22-14-0,112] (81-3666) [1-1-0,13] Popularity Leader This Weeks Favorite MANGONEL KYLE DEMONBLADE DARQUE AGES (29) BIG LAKE SOLUTION (178) (81-3410) [21-22-0,109] (81-3634) [4-7-0,32] THE CURRENT TOP TEAM WAR MACHINE (26) TEAMS ON THE MOVE TOP CAREER HONORS Team Name Point Gain Chartered Team 1. DARQUE AGES (29) 36 2. WICKED MARTYRS (148) 35 MIRKWOOD ORCS (188) 3. KILL 'EM ALL (173) 35 Unchartered Team 4. MIRKWOOD ORCS (188) 27 5. NBA LEGENDS (156) 23PEN ISLAND SKEETERS (195) The Top Teams Career Win-Loss Record W L K % Win-Loss Record Last 3 Turns W L K 1/ 2 MIRKWOOD ORCS (188) 119 81 5 59.5 1/ 3 WAR MACHINE (26) 11 4 1 2/ 3 CULT OF BACCHUS (4) 825 670 26 55.2 2/ 1 CLAN LONGBEARD (39) 9 6 0 3- 4 SHANGHAIED (161) 269 221 9 54.9 3/ 2 BIG LAKE SOLUTION (178) 9 6 0 4/ 0 KILL 'EM ALL (173) 264 224 24 54.1 4/ 7 MIRKWOOD ORCS (188) 8 2 0 5/ 6 NBA LEGENDS (156) 96 84 9 53.3 5/ 5 PRAY THE GODS (155) 8 3 0 6/ 5 CLAN LONGBEARD (39) 752 665 29 53.1 6/ 6 WICKED MARTYRS (148) 7 8 0 7/ 7 DARQUE AGES (29) 885 803 37 52.4 7/ 4 NBA LEGENDS (156) 7 8 0 8/ 8 PRAY THE GODS (155) 387 370 26 51.1 8/ 8 CULT OF BACCHUS (4) 6 9 0 9/ 9 WICKED MARTYRS (148) 503 500 20 50.1 9/12 MADNESS (190) 6 9 0 10-10 ALT PULP (192) 25 25 3 50.0 10/15*PEN ISLAND SKEETER (195) 5 5 0 11/ 1*PEN ISLAND SKEETER (195) 5 5 0 50.0 11/14 DARQUE AGES (29) 5 8 0 12/11 BIG LAKE SOLUTION (178) 282 289 20 49.4 12/11 OHS ALUMNI (183) 5 10 0 13/12 LITERATE LOONS (40) 604 705 28 46.1 13-13 THE OUTLAWS 7 (171) 4 1 0 14-13 THE OUTLAWS 7 (171) 47 60 1 43.9 14/ 9 LITERATE LOONS (40) 4 11 0 15/14 MADNESS (190) 31 44 1 41.3 15/ 0 KILL 'EM ALL (173) 3 2 0 16/15 OHS ALUMNI (183) 183 273 13 40.1 16-16 SHANGHAIED (161) 2 8 0 Career Win-Loss Record W L K % Win-Loss Record Last 3 Turns W L K 17/16 WAR MACHINE (26) 178 279 25 38.9 17-10 ALT PULP (192) 1 4 0 '*' Unchartered team '-' Team did not fight this turn (###) Avoid teams by their Team Id ##/## This turn's/Last turn's rank DUELMASTER'S COLUMN Notes from the arena champ. Greetings from the Throne, I am back for one last column. I knew I could beat Scriptoria and secure my 2nd week on top, as well as get my invite to the Isle. According the the Commission, my favorites are Longsword, Moderate/Very Low and Defense skills and Slash tactic. I never tried the Longsword, I thought my favorite was Dagger. I did use that rhythm quite often in minutes 6th and on, but none of my fights went past minute four. My career has been Jekyll and Hyde. The first 17 fights I went went 6-11-0, severely disappointing my boss, who nearly sent me to fight at night. As punishment he made me fight without armor for seven fights, he said it was motivation. I did start improving during that time and finished my last 17 fights 12-5-1. In my first 17 fights I learned 21 skills and the last 17 learned 33. Those 54 skills helped me attain Master Attack, Advanced Expert Defense and Expert in Riposte. I am the 3rd Aimed Blow and 24th Longbeard to head to the Isle. Farewell Shadowspire! -- Your 2-time Duelmaster and Lord Protector Ulrich of Clan Longbeard SPY REPORT You're here. I'm here. Yada, yada, yada. Spy report intro! See how easy that is? I don't understand why people think this job is hard. I make it look hard when the boss is breathing down my neck, but otherwise, it is a piece of cake. Not cake from Otto's Diner, that stuff is harder than a brick! So, we had fights, and unlike Fight Club, we like to talk about them. Let's get to doing that before my attention wanders over to something more interesting than you guys. We had a large-ish graduating class last turn with 3 warriors heading off to the Isle. One of them just happened to be our Duelmaster, so we were going to need a replacement. Well, it wasn't that easy to do, so let me explain. No, no, that will take too long, let me sum it up. Our reigning Duelmaster and newly minted Lord Protector was challenged by one of the other newly minted Lord Protectors. This means, no matter what happened in that fight, neither one was going to be Duelmaster at the end of the day. With that, we had to shift over to recognition points for our newest arena champion. I introduce to you, Anduril, Duelmaster of The Spire! Congrats to Anduril, who beat Fastrada to secure the throne. He is managed by Boss Orc. Weirdo seems a little disappointed in you guys, and I can't really say I blame him. We only had one death this turn outside of the Dark Arena, and it is not even going to generate a feud. I give Crambus an "A" for the effort though in allowing his warrior to kill a Convicted Thief. We have 3 that left for the Isle after today's fights, and we have one more moving on up to the immortal side next turn. Congrats to Scriptoria of Darque Ages. Took ya long enough, ya bum! Onto the stats for this turn. I like this format because it pretty much speaks for itself with little commentary. Total Fights: 38 DA Challenges: 3 (3-0 for the DA) Bloodfeuds: 1 (1-0 for the avenger) Challenge Fights: 13 (8-5 for the challengers) Largest Up-Challenge: +56, wowzers! - RITESH (81-3437) (15-16-2,100) of PRAY THE GODS challenged ULRICH (81-3457) (18-16-1,156) of CLAN LONGBEARD. RITESH overpowered ULRICH in a 1 minute one-sided Challenge struggle. Largest Down Challenge: -6, Weirdo is still going to be disappointed in you. SARAH LINDER (81-3642) (4-4-0,30) of OHS ALUMNI challenged DOROTHY PARKER (81- 3591) (4-11-1,24) of LITERATE LOONS. SARAH LINDER overcame DOROTHY PARKER in a 2-minute Challenge fight. Thanks to the few of your that keep the personal ads active. It is always a bonus to see a bit of life in an arena. I mean, I would swear a few of your were illiterate and someone else is writing for you, but kudos to you for the effort! Come back next time and see if Anduril can hold onto the throne. Also, I feel the need to close with this thought . . . you gents continue to sicken me with the lack of killing in here. Sure, an arena stand-by bit dust this turn, but whoop-dee-doo! Those guys aren't going to bloodfeud! Get it together, ya bums! See ya next time! -- Huard DePriest DUELMASTER W L K POINTS TEAM NAME ANDURIL 3435 22 14 0 112 MIRKWOOD ORCS (188) CHALLENGER CHAMPIONS W L K POINTS TEAM NAME MANGONEL 3410 21 22 0 109 DARQUE AGES (29) SCRIPTORIA 3348 25 27 0 108 DARQUE AGES (29) NARSIL 3401 32 8 0 107 MIRKWOOD ORCS (188) LEEROY JENKINS 3177 31 12 0 105 KILL 'EM ALL (173) -ENGLISH BOB 3567 8 6 1 101 THE OUTLAWS 7 (171) WILT THE STILT 2383 20 16 3 97 NBA LEGENDS (156) LARRY BIRD 2384 19 17 1 96 NBA LEGENDS (156) JIM TULLY 3475 20 12 0 94 LITERATE LOONS (40) KAREEM 2382 18 18 0 93 NBA LEGENDS (156) XOBIAS 3458 23 12 0 91 CLAN LONGBEARD (39) CHAMPIONS W L K POINTS TEAM NAME FASTRADA 3607 7 6 0 90 DARQUE AGES (29) ZEHDEA 3577 12 6 0 86 CLAN LONGBEARD (39) -HELEN BADE 3021 18 20 0 85 SHANGHAIED (161) DEEP SIX 3597 11 1 2 84 KILL 'EM ALL (173) FRAYED KNOT 3438 21 13 0 82 KILL 'EM ALL (173) UHKANT 3497 21 9 0 72 CLAN LONGBEARD (39) VELINA 3478 17 14 0 71 CULT OF BACCHUS (4) ZAGRID 3528 17 8 1 69 CLAN LONGBEARD (39) RINGIL 3633 9 1 0 68 MIRKWOOD ORCS (188) -JOHNNY REB 3542 7 8 0 68 THE OUTLAWS 7 (171) -CONAN THE BARBER 3615 7 3 0 68 ALT PULP (192) THE LIMPER 3516 13 13 0 67 BIG LAKE SOLUTION (178) CHALLENGER ADEPTS W L K POINTS TEAM NAME THE REPLACEMENT 3526 13 12 2 62 BIG LAKE SOLUTION (178) BUYICA 3606 8 5 1 62 WICKED MARTYRS (148) SHIRLEY JACKSON 3582 8 9 0 61 LITERATE LOONS (40) GLORYHOUND 3007 11 13 1 57 WAR MACHINE (26) ADEPTS W L K POINTS TEAM NAME SPEKT 3541 10 12 0 54 WICKED MARTYRS (148) KOOMADON 3602 8 5 0 54 CULT OF BACCHUS (4) WRATHCHILD 3140 5 4 1 53 WAR MACHINE (26) BROKEN BLADE 3494 11 17 1 51 MIRKWOOD ORCS (188) KAIBOSH 3546 7 10 1 50 KILL 'EM ALL (173) RICKY SCHMIDT 3522 12 13 0 49 OHS ALUMNI (183) ADEPTS W L K POINTS TEAM NAME HAKEEM 2521 10 15 3 49 NBA LEGENDS (156) BROKEN 3644 5 3 0 45 MADNESS (190) BAMNOR 3608 7 5 0 41 CULT OF BACCHUS (4) RAYMOND CARVER 3543 8 14 0 38 LITERATE LOONS (40) BUCKS INA TUX 3628 6 5 0 38 BIG LAKE SOLUTION (178) -SEVEN GUN SUE 3616 5 5 1 38 ALT PULP (192) -FRANK STILLWELL 3550 9 6 0 37 THE OUTLAWS 7 (171) CHALLENGER INITIATES W L K POINTS TEAM NAME DOOT 3603 6 4 0 33 PRAY THE GODS (155) STEINAR 3630 5 5 0 33 CULT OF BACCHUS (4) SARAH LINDER 3642 5 4 0 33 OHS ALUMNI (183) -CTHUPEEYOO 3618 4 6 0 33 ALT PULP (192) TRENT 3593 8 7 1 32 MADNESS (190) STORMCALLER 3586 8 8 0 32 WICKED MARTYRS (148) KYLE DEMONBLADE 3634 4 7 0 32 BIG LAKE SOLUTION (178) RICH HOYT 3643 5 4 0 31 OHS ALUMNI (183) SHANKAR 3585 6 5 0 30 PRAY THE GODS (155) -MIKE WARHAMMER 3617 4 6 1 27 ALT PULP (192) HANDY ROYTT 3132 5 5 0 26 WAR MACHINE (26) OTTO'S FRY GUY 3648 5 2 1 25 CULT OF BACCHUS (4) DOROTHY PARKER 3591 4 12 1 25 LITERATE LOONS (40) STING 3661 4 0 0 25 MIRKWOOD ORCS (188) INITIATES W L K POINTS TEAM NAME RIP PAPA BEAR 3635 4 6 0 23 MADNESS (190) XIQUEEL 3659 4 1 0 22 BIG LAKE SOLUTION (178) -MALTESE PIGEON 3619 5 5 1 21 ALT PULP (192) THE SOCIOPATH 3679 2 0 1 20 WAR MACHINE (26) -ONE-EYED CLYDE 3569 3 3 0 19 SHANGHAIED (161) RECLAN 3650 3 0 0 16 PRAY THE GODS (155) PRIVID 3665 1 2 0 16 WICKED MARTYRS (148) -MOLLY FYED 3675 1 1 0 14 SHANGHAIED (161) YRVO 3666 1 1 0 13 PEN ISLAND SKEETERS (195) -IKE CLANTON 3647 3 1 0 10 THE OUTLAWS 7 (171) -PEARL HEART 3671 1 0 0 10 THE OUTLAWS 7 (171) SETSET 3667 1 1 0 9 PEN ISLAND SKEETERS (195) ANTON CHEKHOV 3651 1 6 0 9 LITERATE LOONS (40) THE EMPTY PROMISE 3662 2 2 0 8 WAR MACHINE (26) TINY TIM 3663 2 2 0 8 MADNESS (190) LAUDINA 3658 1 4 0 7 MADNESS (190) AVLUV 3670 2 0 0 6 PEN ISLAND SKEETERS (195) REST IN PEACES 3657 1 2 0 5 KILL 'EM ALL (173) CRIXX 3672 1 2 0 5 WICKED MARTYRS (148) MUTORCS 3668 1 1 0 4 PEN ISLAND SKEETERS (195) MR. JENKINS 3682 0 1 0 3 OHS ALUMNI (183) -FATHER FELONIOUS 3673 0 2 0 2 SHANGHAIED (161) -GHOST GOODWIN 3674 0 2 0 2 SHANGHAIED (161) SDANOG 3669 0 2 0 2 PEN ISLAND SKEETERS (195) '-' denotes a warrior who did not fight this turn. THE DEAD W L K TEAM NAME SLAIN BY TURN Revenge? CONVICTED THIEF 0 0 0 THE SOCIOPATH 3679 389 NONE CATERINA SFORZA 3540 12 8 3 DARQUE AGES 29 WILT THE STILT 2383 386 JUST REVENGED HAIRY SERF 3681 0 1 0 DARQUE AGES 29 SHEWISH GIANT 389 NONE SCARY SERF 3680 0 1 0 DARQUE AGES 29 WURM KIN 389 NONE JOEL GETSCHEL 3649 2 5 0 OHS ALUMNI 183 HIGH ELF 389 NONE PERSONAL ADS Den -- Aww, did you miss me? -- Weirdo Vlad -- You smell like Summer's Eve. -- Weirdo War Machine -- We just wanted to give you a chance to get on our level. -- Kill 'EM ALL BlackHart -- What? Did I read that correctly?? You're throwing in the towel because your team sucks and it's no longer viable to maintain your winning record? You got some bad replacements and you're just giving up?? Well, then, I look forward to passing you up in the team rankings you freaking loser! -- Weirdo Huard DePriest -- The largest down challenge was 11 pts last turn?? Oh no, no, no. I simply must return and show these noobs how it's done. -- Weirdo Huard DePriest -- Wait a minute. No one died last turn, either? Look, this Crambus guy knows how to kill, he just hasn't figured out the winning part, yet. I will show him the way! -- Weirdo Scriptoria -- You should have enough experience to put one of those shields away and use a real weapon. Thanks for helping to push me over the top to get my invite. -- Duelmaster and Lord Protector Ulrich Helen Blade -- Ahh the difference a month makes and a weapon change, which could possibly be my favorite. -- Xobias Shirley Jackson -- One more for me. Yes I am keeping track. -- Uhkant Bamnor -- That was some impressive parrying for your style. Til we meet again. -- Zagrid Hakeem -- I would have thought the size and speed difference would have favored you. -- Zehdea Congrats Doctor J and Ritesh on your invite to the Isle. -- Clan Longbeard Den who? -- Visionist Den -- I lose my challenge, you lose your challenge. Such is the fate... -- Chad Joel Getschel has run his lips too long. He received his black mark to the Dark Arena. (11-8-12-17-9-10-17). This is what high wit/deft and low con/will gets you. Pffff 2- 4. -- Chad LAST WEEK'S FIGHTS JOEL GETSCHEL was butchered by HIGH ELF in a crowd pleasing 1 minute Dark Arena fight. SCARY SERF was slaughtered by WURM KIN in a 1 minute gruesome Dark Arena battle. HAIRY SERF was murdered by SHEWISH GIANT in a 1 minute Dark Arena fight. SCRIPTORIA unbelievably bested WILT THE STILT in a 3 minute master's Bloodfeud brawl. DOCTOR J demolished XOBIAS in a 3 minute gruesome mismatched Challenge competition. RITESH overpowered ULRICH in a 1 minute one-sided Challenge struggle. FASTRADA was devastated by ANDURIL in a 1 minute Challenge Title competition. KAREEM handily defeated VELINA in a 1 minute uneven Challenge melee. LARRY BIRD vanquished UHKANT in a 2 minute gruesome one-sided Challenge duel. RINGIL slimly won victory over SHIRLEY JACKSON in a popular 4 minute Challenge fight. RICH HOYT was overpowered by SPEKT in a 1 minute one-sided Challenge melee. BUCKS INA TUX was overpowered by BUYICA in a 1 minute one-sided Challenge match. BROKEN devastated RAYMOND CARVER in a 2 minute brutal mismatched Challenge conflict. RIP PAPA BEAR was subdued by DOOT in a popular 3 minute bloody Challenge brawl. SARAH LINDER overcame DOROTHY PARKER in a 2 minute Challenge fight. LAUDINA was vanquished by HANDY ROYTT in a 2 minute mismatched Challenge bout. TINY TIM outwaited SDANOG in a unpopular 8 minute novice's Challenge fray. NARSIL unbelievably bested ZEHDEA in a exciting 4 minute brutal one-sided brawl. LEEROY JENKINS was savagely defeated by MANGONEL in a popular 4 minute veteran's bout. DEEP SIX devastated VETERAN MERCENARY in a 1 minute one-sided contest. JIM TULLY overpowered THE REPLACEMENT in a 1 minute one-sided duel. FRAYED KNOT luckily beat VETERAN MERCENARY in a action packed 6 minute fray. ZAGRID handily defeated HAKEEM in a 1 minute one-sided contest. GLORYHOUND was subdued by THE LIMPER in a 2 minute veteran's fight. RICKY SCHMIDT was vanquished by KAIBOSH in a 1 minute one-sided match. WRATHCHILD won victory over BROKEN BLADE in a 2 minute gory fight. SHANKAR was subdued by BAMNOR in a 2 minute brutal melee. TRENT was vanquished by KOOMADON in a 1 minute one-sided fray. OTTO'S FRY GUY slimly lost to CAPTURED ORC in a 5 minute bloody bout. KYLE DEMONBLADE viciously subdued ANTON CHEKHOV in a popular 4 minute gory bout. STORMCALLER was vanquished by STEINAR in a 1 minute one-sided fray. RECLAN beat MUTORCS in a 2 minute novice's match. REST IN PEACES was defeated by YRVO in a 2 minute novice's bout. XIQUEEL narrowly defeated SETSET in a crowd pleasing 4 minute gruesome novice's fray. STING luckily beat MR. JENKINS in a 5 minute brutal novice's struggle. THE EMPTY PROMISE was unbelievably bested by PRIVID in a 2 minute beginner's bout. AVLUV outlasted CRIXX in a monotonous 16 minute amateur's match. THE SOCIOPATH slaughtered CONVICTED THIEF in a 1 minute one-sided bout. BATTLE REPORT MOST POPULAR RECORD DURING THE LAST 10 TURNS |FIGHTING STYLE FIGHTS FIGHTING STYLE W - L - K PERCENT| |WALL OF STEEL 11 PARRY-RIPOSTE 17 - 11 - 0 61 | |LUNGING ATTACK 9 WALL OF STEEL 58 - 39 - 2 60 | |TOTAL PARRY 8 TOTAL PARRY 34 - 28 - 0 55 | |BASHING ATTACK 8 STRIKING ATTACK 43 - 39 - 2 52 | |SLASHING ATTACK 8 BASHING ATTACK 39 - 37 - 3 51 | |PARRY-LUNGE 7 PARRY-STRIKE 16 - 16 - 0 50 | |STRIKING ATTACK 7 PARRY-LUNGE 32 - 41 - 1 44 | |AIMED BLOW 7 AIMED BLOW 32 - 41 - 0 44 | |PARRY-STRIKE 2 SLASHING ATTACK 34 - 45 - 1 43 | |PARRY-RIPOSTE 2 LUNGING ATTACK 34 - 51 - 1 40 | Turn 389 was great if you Not so great if you used The fighting styles of the used the fighting styles: the fighting styles: top eleven warriors are: PARRY-STRIKE 2 - 0 STRIKING ATTACK 3 - 4 4 WALL OF STEEL TOTAL PARRY 6 - 2 LUNGING ATTACK 3 - 6 3 TOTAL PARRY BASHING ATTACK 5 - 3 AIMED BLOW 2 - 5 1 AIMED BLOW PARRY-LUNGE 4 - 3 SLASHING ATTACK 2 - 6 1 SLASHING ATTACK WALL OF STEEL 6 - 5 1 PARRY-RIPOSTE PARRY-RIPOSTE 1 - 1 1 BASHING ATTACK TOP WARRIOR OF EACH STYLE FIGHTING STYLE WARRIOR W L K PNTS TEAM NAME AIMED BLOW ANDURIL 3435 22 14 0 112 MIRKWOOD ORCS (188) TOTAL PARRY NARSIL 3401 32 8 0 107 MIRKWOOD ORCS (188) WALL OF STEEL WILT THE STILT 2383 20 16 3 97 NBA LEGENDS (156) PARRY-RIPOSTE JIM TULLY 3475 20 12 0 94 LITERATE LOONS (40) STRIKING ATTACK FASTRADA 3607 7 6 0 90 DARQUE AGES (29) SLASHING ATTACK VELINA 3478 17 14 0 71 CULT OF BACCHUS (4) PARRY-STRIKE ZAGRID 3528 17 8 1 69 CLAN LONGBEARD (39) LUNGING ATTACK THE REPLACEMENT 3526 13 12 2 62 BIG LAKE SOLUTION (178) PARRY-LUNGE BUYICA 3606 8 5 1 62 WICKED MARTYRS (148) Note: Warriors have a winning record and are an Adept or Above. FIGHTING STYLE WARRIOR W L K PNTS TEAM NAME The overall popularity leader is MANGONEL 3410. The most popular warrior this turn was KYLE DEMONBLADE 3634. The ten other most popular fighters were SHIRLEY JACKSON 3582, ZEHDEA 3577, MANGONEL 3410, WILT THE STILT 2383, XIQUEEL 3659, RIP PAPA BEAR 3635, DOOT 3603, MR. JENKINS 3682, LARRY BIRD 2384, and BROKEN 3644. The least popular fighter this week was AVLUV 3670. The other ten least popular fighters were CRIXX 3672, TINY TIM 3663, STORMCALLER 3586, OTTO'S FRY GUY 3648, TRENT 3593, HAKEEM 2521, FRAYED KNOT 3438, THE REPLACEMENT 3526, BUCKS INA TUX 3628, and RICH HOYT 3643. The following warriors will travel to AD after next turn: SCRIPTORIA (81-3348) DARQUE AGES (29) The following warriors have traveled to AD after fighting this turn: DOCTOR J (81-2385) NBA LEGENDS (156) RITESH (81-3437) PRAY THE GODS (155) ULRICH (81-3457) CLAN LONGBEARD (39) MY TAKE ON THE PARRY SLASH I'm sure I'm not covering any new ground with my insights on the Wall of Steel. It is my best fighting style and a favorite. I have currently 3 in ADM, and about a half dozen active in the arenas with one currently undefeated and Duelmaster in DM 41. So a bit about my observations. Like most defensive styles it seems to work best to run these guys offensively while they are young so I outfit them and run them like a slasher. They favor the initiative, parry and attack skills which sucks a bit in ADM because they lack in defense skill and since defense is king in the late game, Walls of Steel fall back into the pack quite a bit. It stinks but done right they can hold their own vs anyone except end game lungers and aimed blows who seem to be way OP at that level. Anyway, stats are important of course. Strength should at least be 9+ to get slashing weapons. Con can be lower; I have gotten away with a con of 7 because I run them fast and furious anyway so if they get out jumped or crit dodged and ripped then they go down easy. Most fights are over in minute 1 anyway. Size is a thing; smaller sizes would be nice but you have issues with damage if you go low size and strength less than 11. I have an upper limit of around 14 size and a lower one of 5 in my current crew. Wit is a no brainer: 15+ is almost mandatory but I am running one with a 13 that is doing ok but learning slows down to a crawl if you have less than 15. Will is super necessary so I try not to go below 15 here with a build. Speed isn't really a priority, so I often go as low as 3 here and they still do very well. More speed would be nice, but speed is a luxury and not a necessity. Deftness is nice, I won't run a WOS with less than a 13 here; my highest is 21 with a current ADM build. Now how to run them. Well, minute one is offensive so I typically run 10-10-6 and then taper off to a high offensive effort and a low or moderate activity level. It seems that the majority of my ADM builds prefer a high-low pace. So a couple of current warrior builds to show off the style. Midnight, currently in ADM -- 9-11(2)-10-17-15-3-21, about to start stat raises but currently has ad masters in attack and initiative. Ishmail currently in Home Guard -- 12-9-6-15-17-9-15, currently at 93 skills and wont be stat raising for a minute. Average Joe in Mordant -- 11-11-14-13-13-9-13, painfully bad at learning and definitely not recommended for the faint of heart. Beowulf in Seam -- 11-12-9-15-17-3-17, currently at 54 skills and near the top of the arena. Has fallen on hard times of late because of diminishing returns on skill learns. Broken in Shadowspire -- 9-14-9-17-17-5-13, very new and probably going to be a .500 warrior when it's all said and done because of the low speed and deftness combo. Bender in DM 41 -- 9-7-14-17-17-3-17, currently undefeated and duelmaster, won't last long but he started out as a tourney warrior and has gone at best 6-3 and went 4-3 in this past mail-in as an adept. So for anyone who doesn't know, a speed and deftness of 21 total is needed to get normal coordination and a combo of 28 is needed to get the "fights well with either hand" tag on your roll up. So not really relevant to the topic but just thought I'd throw that out there. I like to keep this total at the very least 18 to get slightly uncoordinated on all my builds because coordination is vital to defense and attack. Okay, that's my take on this fun style. If I have enlightened anyone then you are welcome, I hope I at least entertained everyone. Take it easy. -- Eli