DUEL 2 NEWSLETTER Date : 09/02/2006 Duedate: 09/15/2006 NOBLISH ISLAND ARENA DM-93 TURN-216 This Weeks Top Honors THE DUELMASTER IS MAORAKITH HELLSWORN (1421) (93-8214) [6-1-1,66] Chartered Recognition Leader Unchartered Recognition Leader POSITION IS EMPTY MAORAKITH HELLSWORN (1421) (93-8214) [6-1-1,66] Popularity Leader This Weeks Favorite BELISSA HOUGH DORTHA JANETTO MIDDLE WAY 15 (1427) MIDDLE WAY 15 (1427) (93-8241) [4-3-0,32] (93-8243) [5-2-0,33] THE CURRENT TOP TEAM HELLSWORN (1421) TEAMS ON THE MOVE TOP CAREER HONORS Team Name Point Gain Chartered Team 1. INDIGO CIPHER (1445) 44 2. FOLLOWER'S OF XOAN (1441) 26 THE MUPPETS (132) 3. HELLSWORN (1421) 25 Unchartered Team 4. MARIONETTE PETS (1433) 19 5. MISFIT CREW (1417) 15 INDIGO CIPHER (1445) The Top Teams Career Win-Loss Record W L K % Win-Loss Record Last 3 Turns W L K 1/ 0*INDIGO CIPHER (1445) 4 1 0 80.0 1/ 1*HELLSWORN (1421) 11 4 1 2/ 1*ORDO HERETICUS (1420) 9 5 1 64.3 2/ 4*TEAM CHAOS (1416) 7 8 0 3/ 2*HELLSWORN (1421) 22 13 1 62.9 3/ 3*MIDDLE WAY 15 (1427) 6 9 0 4- 5*THE SIRENS OF OLE (1437) 3 2 1 60.0 4/ 2*MARIONETTE PETS (1433) 5 5 1 5/ 3*MARIONETTE PETS (1433) 8 7 2 53.3 5/10*CANOE CLUB (1434) 5 8 0 6/ 7*MIDDLE WAY 15 (1427) 17 17 0 50.0 6/ 0*INDIGO CIPHER (1445) 4 1 0 7/ 8*MISFIT CREW (1417) 15 16 5 48.4 7/ 5*MISFIT CREW (1417) 4 6 2 8/10*CANOE CLUB (1434) 5 8 0 38.5 8/ 6*ORDO HERETICUS (1420) 3 2 1 9/ 9*TEAM CHAOS (1416) 13 22 0 37.1 9- 7*THE SIRENS OF OLE (1437) 3 2 1 10/ 0*FOLLOWER'S OF XOA (1441) 1 4 0 20.0 10/ 0*FOLLOWER'S OF XOA (1441) 1 4 0 '*' Unchartered team '-' Team did not fight this turn (###) Avoid teams by their Team Id ##/## This turn's/Last turn's rank TEAM SPOTLIGHT REBUTTING MY OWN REBUTTAL Well, I was wondering when that article would cycle back around. Greetings all, I'm Drake the author of that "Beginner's Guide to Duelmasters Rebuttal" article in last turn's newsletter (no relation to Mr. Drake; who apparently was a manager that was around during the hiatus I took several years back). Just to let everyone know, that article was written back in '92 and quite a bit has changed in regards to what is known and what my own theories on warrior building and management are. I wouldn't say there's anything dead wrong with what I wrote, but there are some subtle differences in what I do now. Since I'm here, what the heck: Luck Factor and Even/Odd stats: Before the skill chart was completed and style bonuses had been figured out, people talked a lot about a "Luck Factor". Basically, it really boils down to what your warrior's starting skills (and to a lesser extent physicals) will be. Put simply, most skill breakpoints fall on odd numbers (but not on 19). Speed is the main exception as most of its skills fall on even stats, but a few fall on odd. Important Stats: Mainly, the order has changed in my opinion. Wit and Will are still the premium stats (and about equal overall), Strength and Deftness coming in second, with Speed and Con falling last (you can't do anything about Size). These days, my main concern with Deftness is weapon selection and getting to 11 if possible (it's a major skill breakpoint for DF). Bashers: Obviously, I wasn't talking about tank bashers (high Con + Will Bashers that run around in heavy armor). Personally, I don't like tanks, always lose when running them and can regularly beat them with most of my warriors, but that's just me. I'd also probably put a higher Speed on my bashers these days (especially if Con is very low). As for weapons, forget about the MS and learn to love the ML. Lunger: The only real difference in my design & running strategy these days might be a little more Speed (like the basher) and a 10-10-4 Dodge in desperation. Slashers: Give the various axes a try. They can work well. However, the SC is still the best weapon. Striker: Can use any weapon they have the stats for (avoid the WF like the plague) and they can go lower on Will (though I personally won't go below a 9 because even a ST will suffer with Little Endurance). Aimed Blow: I've now run several successes with this style, and the biggest mistake you can make is to run it like a defensive warrior. They can be nearly as fast as a Striker out of the gate, but they suck at stealing the initiative. Also, they're considered a power-style and probably the top style in Primus. Ideally with this style, you want the highest Wit (for learning) and Deftness possible (ABs get a bonus to their starting Attack skill based on DF). Total Parry: No real difference, though I'm far less likely to do the 15 Will (prefer 17+) on a TP now and will go as low as a 11 (or even 9) on DF (assuming a high Wit or Con to make up for it in learns or damage soaking). Parry-Strikes: Horrible base skills. However, they can be a good way to surprise an opponent that likes to use the Decisiveness tactic. Plus, with their endurance conservation, they can go with a low will (again, my minimum is 9) and can peel a scum TP with the right strategy. Parry-Lunge: Now considered to be the 3rd or 4th best style in the game (depending on if you rank them before or after Wastes). Parry-Riposte: Lots of bonus to Riposte skills and not much else. Many managers stay away from this style now because of it's low long-term viability (you won't see Rippers dominating ADM or Primus). Wall of Steel: Considered by a few managers to be the 4th best style in the game. This is mainly because they start with as many base skills as a Lunger, but they emphasize different areas (more parry and less defense) and they can't be as bonused (Lungers can be bonused anywhere, but Wastes only in Attack and Parry) Starting Stat Totals: These days I go for a Wit + Will of 30+ and enough Strength and Deftness to have a good weapon selection. Other stats are largely an after-thought. That basically sums it up. If you really want to get hold of me, you can diplo me at Drake's Comics in arena 47 (my old teams are largely retired). -- Drake (no Mr.) + ]H[ + ---:--- + ]H[ The Lighthouse ]H[ + ---:--- + ]H[ + "Tinkering strategies?" Jorja glanced around the common room of the Lighthouse quickly. None of her gladiators were near by, but she leaned forward and lowered her voice anyway. "The team here doesn't believe I ever do that, and I don't want them to hear me saying differently, Diaretic. They'd get expectations, and I don't have any plan to make life that easy for 'em. But here's the way I go at it when I'm feeling generous with my warriors. Mind you, this is just the way *I* do it, and there are plenty of other approaches. "Say I've got a warrior who's a pure offensive style, which means a basher, a lunger, or a slasher. I don't count strikers, as they're versatile and sometimes unpredictable. Say I've started him out fast, maybe 8-6-x. Unless he's fighting another pure offensive, he should be first off the mark. So I look for the problem. If it's a problem with his numbers and style and he should have been some other kind of fighter, well, too bad, we're both stuck with it. I can boost his offensive effort to ten--sometimes it already IS ten, of course, but if it isn't, then that goes up to the top. I can drop his activity level, say to four. I know some people start their offensive warriors going 10-10-x, but to my mind, this is just asking for early burnout in a fight. I've seen that kind of thing--a warrior comes out of the starting gate like his socks are on fire, and by the MIDDLE, not the end, of the first minute, he's panting and staggering, and losing. Sure, some warriors can take that kind of energy burn, but most can't. "So I tinker with his numbers, and it doesn't help, he still gets jumped when he shouldn't. The next thing to try is dropping the weight he's carrying. Maybe I've got him in some kind of mail, okay, I drop that to leather. This reduces his protection against blows from his opponent, of course, but everything's a trade-off. If he gets out there first and deals a shrewd blow or two, it won't matter; he'll win before he gets hurt. If he's already in leather, or if I want to lighten him up further, I'll drop his backup weapon and give him a lighter one. Say he's got a scimitar with a backup same, maybe I'll drop the backup to a shortsword or even a dagger. I'll always leave him SOME backup weapon--" "He'd have his fists, if you didn't give him a backup weapon, wouldn't he?" Diaretic asked. Jorja shrugged. "Well... yes, but none of the pure offensives do well with their fists. Strikers, maybe, but not bashers, lungers, or slashers. They can and will use 'em if they have nothing else, but they won't do well. And frankly, I wouldn't even send out an aimed blow, the CLASSIC unarmed style, with nothing but his fists for backups. I've seen too many of them 'struck in the arm with the parry'. It's too risky for a warrior who's already got problems. Unless, of course..." she looked suddenly thoughtful, "I'm hoping he'll get killed...." Diaretic raised his eyebrows. "Do you do that much?" "Send them out hoping they'll die?" Jorja shrugged. "Well, yes and no. I run everything, maybe send one warrior in a hundred to the Dark Arena--after he's fought for a year or two. There are often warriors that I would LIKE to see die, even though I hate the hassle of recruiting new ones. But I've never sent a warrior out unarmed, unarmored, and with the basic 1-1-1 default strategy. At least, not deliberately. There's a team I have in Murska that was running on maintenance once. I wasn't paying attention, and no less than THREE new warriors started up there without strategies--and survived! They had horrible records by the time one of the other managers managed to get my attention, 0-19 I think it was, but they survived. Tough men, and they eventually made it to graduation, once I gave them 'sharp pointy things' to use on their opponents. But I don't do that deliberately." She paused and signaled for one of the waiters to bring Diaretic a fresh drink. "Where was I? Warriors getting jumped when they shouldn't be, right. As a last resort, because I don't really care for tactics, I might give such a warrior decisiveness in the first minute, also. "But if none of this works, if he still gets jumped regularly, then I have to think about taking a different approach. Maybe he'd be better off running slowly, despite his style. So I put more armor on him, some kind of mail, usually, and I slow down his first minute, maybe invert it: 4-6-x or 4-8-x or something. And then in the second minute pop him up to eight or ten offensive effort, on the idea that he'll catch the faster offensives when they're tired. Sometimes it works. Especially with beginning warriors, winning can often be a game of endurance. He who is still standing, wins." Diaretic nodded and sipped his drink. Half-formed ideas of how he might use these ideas on his own warriors revolved in his mind. "What about the opposite case, a defensive warrior who can't last long enough to win as he should?" "The total parry who collapses from exhaustion in the second minute?" Jorja laughed. "I've had a few of those over the years. I call 'em 'the warriors of exasperation'. It isn't easy running everything, you know--I end up with some warriors that not even a mother could love, and with them, I tend to do really dumb things, just for the heck of it. The aimed blow with a deftness of three or four, for instance, or the total parry with no con. "But for the, hmm, 'legitimate' cases of warriors running too fast, well, there are signs as obvious as an offensive getting jumped. 'Fighting to conserve energy', 'straining to hold his weary arms at guard', stuff like that in the fight report is a sure sign. You can take two approaches to that, lower the weight they're carrying so as not to burn their energy that way--lighter armor, lighter weapons. Or slow 'em down. Say I've got a ripper going 6-8-x and stumbling with exhaustion in the second minute. I might slow this warrior down to 4-6 and see if that helps. Heck, I've even done that with offensives. Back when I started slashers out going 10-10-x, I'd get them stumbling with exhaustion and losing because of it in the second or even the FIRST minute, and I'd slow 'em down. Activity level comes down first for an offensive warrior--I think of that as the 'dodging and parrying' number. Offensive effort comes down first for the defensives." "Hmm." The younger manager frowned, making a series of linked rings on the table top with the wet bottom of his glass. "What about warriors who flail wildly?" "I've been told that this is due to lack of attack skills, and unless you're going to train stats and burn those skills, nothing but time will cure it. But I've found that sometimes--not always--lowering kill desire helps. Drop it to five, say, if it's higher. Dropping the offensive effort a notch might help, too. I think of 'flailing wildly' as 'trying too hard'. You can never be sure, of course, because managing gladiators is an art, not a science." She paused and half stood, looking toward a center of commotion. "Do you want Wednesday to get falling down drunk on the night before the fights?" +<]H[>+-----+<]H[+ Question of the Week #8 +]H[>+-----+<]H[>+ Question, turn 417: All -- Here's last cycle's question that didn't make it in (along with page two of my personals). What are the top five weapons to be successful in Advanced? -- Hanibal Q.O.W. Answers, turn 418: Q.O.W. Response -- The top weapons in AD, or even basic DM, are generally agreed upon to be the SC, LO, BS, and BA. The scimitar is an all round great weapon. Seems easier to crit with, and even against heavy armor, still dishes out a lot of damage. Because it's a slashing weapon, it seems to pull a lot of critical damage on normal hits. The longsword is the second best, though that could be contended, for its one great ability, the knockdown! The broadsword is heavy, but it dishes out heavy abuse, it doesn't break often, and it is pretty good at smashing through parries. The battle axe is just plain cool, and it is very painful! After those four, it's difficult to say which weapon is better. I like daggers, though shortswords are strong, and the halberd is really fun if your warrior can throw crits with it. -- Adie I must have missed the question this is answering, or it was part of an ongoing and sometimes heated discussion on winning and killing and aiming locations in Aruak City. Q.O.W. Response -- Other than the obvious ability of aiming at the chest/abdomen/head to gain death intent statement, I think that it's more difficult to win when aiming at the body because there are more hit-points there. This is especially the case against tough, armored warriors. Attacking the body with lunging weapons can get knockdowns, but I think that it's even easier if you aim at the legs. If you consider protect locations though, maybe the body is better to aim at because maybe fewer people protect it. The limbs, and head especially, have less hit points, so if struck, such a warrior usually gives up sooner. Aiming at the head can get quick victories and death intent statements, but results in more deaths, obviously. But I think a lot of people routinely protect the head. Aiming at the arms allows the defeat of a warrior when they lose their weapon, or use of their arm, and can't draw a back up. -- Adie P.S. I only advocate aiming at the arms and legs in Aruak City. Elsewhere is a different story. Question for turn 418, to be answered next turn: New Q.O.W. -- What have people seen in regards to arms that hang useless? Can warriors regain the use of them eventually if the fight goes on? Can they punch or parry with it, even though they can't draw a back-up? -- Adie Adie's QoW -- Striking arms can cause an opponent to drop their weapon and (temporarily) lose the use of the limb. Striking the legs can increase the chance of a knockdown. Striking at head, chest, or abdomen can allow for a kill on the sands. Chest and abdomen seem to be the locations best protected by armor. Head can have a different level of armor protection than the rest of the warrior's body, which can make things tactically interesting. From what I've seen, managers usually have their warriors protect their vital hit locations by default, so to me it makes more sense to aim at non-vitals. -- Generalissimo Puerco Is Generalissimo Puerco psychic? Tune in next turn and find out! Hanibal's QoW -- All of the one-handed swords make up the top tier of weapons, with the axes and spears on the second tier (consider halberd in this group), and all the bludgeoning weapons (and the greatsword) at the bottom. Quarterstaves, war hammers, and mauls are liked by some, and as far as I'm concerned, they can have them. Unfortunately the quarterstaff recently became tied (with longsword) among my LPs for most popular favorite weapon. Also, interestingly, I only have one LP that favors the scimitar, and it's a total parry! -- Generalissimo Puerco Hanibal -- Top five weapons? Hm, scimitar, scimitar, scimitar.... Oh, you mean DIFFERENT weapons? A lot depends on the style of the warrior in question and his or her favorite. But scimitar is up there near the top of the list for many styles. -- Leeta The question from turn 418: New Q.O.W. -- What have people seen in regards to arms that hang useless? Can warriors regain the use of them eventually if the fight goes on? Can they punch or parry with it, even though they can't draw a back-up? -- Adie Answers from turn 419 and 420: Q.O.W. Answer: I have had all sorts of s#&t (not sure what word this was supposed to be) happen regarding arms falling uselessly at their side: some warriors give up, some continue on, I've even had a warrior lose his use of an arm twice in one fight (and he still won!!!). One thing is certain...the weapon in the useless hand always drops in the sand. -- Dr. Strange Refers to last turn's question-- QOW -- Weapons? We agree that SC seems tops with LO and BS highly desirable. The Consortium clan has a great affinity for these also: BA, DA, QS, SH, WH and GA. Not the normal "feelings," but... -- Kennelworth QOW -- A useless arm is a statement and since it normally comes at the end, it "seems" to mean something, but it is similar to a dropped weapon. -- Kennelworth Answer Q.O.W. (arms) -- When arms are struck in combat, I too have seen a variety of things occur. I've seen them get hit, forcing a weapon to be dropped, but then a back up pulled immediately. I've seen them get hit, drop a weapon, and be too hotly engaged to pull a new one. Also, they can hang useless after being struck. The weirdest thing I've ever seen is a warrior lose the use of their arm, drop their weapon, strike with their fists, and then have one of those fists get parried, AND IT WOULD BE THE ONE THAT WAS USELESS THAT WAS INJURED BY THE PARRY! Strange eh? So if both arms went useless, you could still fight with fists? Hmm... -- Adie New question, turn 419: All -- I recently tried an experiment where I gave a warrior a Primary weapon (Broadsword) and the same off-hand back-up. She pulled the back-up when things slowed down in min. 2. Does this mean she prefers two weapons or do they always do that? If you give a warrior two back-ups will they pull the one they prefer or whatever you list first? -- Hanibal -- Q.O.W. Answers, turn 420: Answer Q.O.W. (backups) -- When things slow down in a fight and neither warrior is eager to hold the initiative, they will usually pull any off-hand or back up weapon they have, whether they need it or not. It has no relation to whether that warrior prefers to fight with two weapons or not. Drawing back-ups also can occur when the fight is intense. If your weapon breaks while on the offense, often such a warrior will draw their back up and attempt a riposte to hold the init. Also, if you're on the defensive and you attempt to riposte, but you have a back-up weapon or off-hand weapon to draw, your warrior may try to pull it. Success is not always guaranteed in either case though since your warrior may be 'to hotly engaged'. Even if a defending warrior succeeds, drawing a weapon after a riposte forces that warrior to give up the init they could have taken. But if they pull a back-up and THEN riposte, then can take the init. If you give a warrior two back-ups, they pull the one listed first, and if it breaks or is dropped, they'll pull the second. It is not random. -- Adie QoW -- If the warrior has a free off-hand, and a backup off-hand weapon, it usually isn't long before they decide to make use of it. I'm guessing that OE and coordination (anonymous source) are factors that affect the likelihood of drawing a backup in the off-hand. Wanna Be, manager of A Savage Few here in Aruak, once hosted a fast draw contest where contestants had to start the fight unarmed but could have backup weapons. The all-out offensives would sometimes spend a full minute or more with their fists before deciding to draw steel. The defensives would usually draw something the first chance their opponent would give them. -- Generalissimo Puerco New question, turn 420: All -- I was noticing the skill modifiers for low to high size; do these negatives keep a warrior from being successful at the high end of the game? -- Hanibal -- Q.O.W. We're now caught up with Aruak City (dm 11) on the Questions of the Week; they are about to run turn 421 as I write this. So if Hanibal misses a turn in asking, or the managers there miss a turn in answering, we'll have to miss a turn in looking over their shoulders. Amazing how things follow one another like dominoes falling, isn't it? There is NO REASON AT ALL why you here can't pose Questions of the Week of your own. Send them as a personal to DM 11, identify yourself as a new manager seeking enlightenment, and you should get a helpful response. -- Jorja Note that Hannibal's Questions of the Week stopped some time ago and Aruak City is now in the vicinity of turn 549. DUELMASTER'S COLUMN Notes from the arena champ. Edgiles Kapp deserves a title shot. He'll swing first, might swing last. But what the hell, we had a great turn. Have fun paying for turn 216. We don't have to. Laters, Maorakith P.S. Fratsfa Slave doesn't teach squat. SPY REPORT Welcome NOBLISH ISLAND. I, Olaf Modeen remember this place well. Many the fights have I fought here. The celebrations, the disappointments... Up 'n down. Up 'n down. Rankings always change. Up 'n down. I think I'm gonna be... Well, CANOE CLUB's 5th moved them up to 2-2-0 place. INDIGO CIPHER's walking tall now that they went 4-1-0 their first time out. But we know what awaits them soon... What's with SHIMTAINT? It actually beat NOBLISH ISLAND's EMBEZZLING SCRIBE, and walked away with 16 more points from the fight. Major screwup at HELLSWORN. VRANCELLE lost 12 points to ANGUS. Some new strategies, perhaps? Maybe VRANCELLE will provide more easy wins... VENEMOUS CONCUBINE was reminded on the sands why MAORAKITH is Duelmaster. I suppose you want to hear some rumors and dirty gossip about your fellow fighters? Tough! Speaking of cowardly avoiders and unfair challenges... NOBLISH ISLAND thinks ORDO HERETICUS and their 9-5-1 is too much! If at first you don't succeed, give up... The bums at MARIONETTE PETS couldn't face the challenges from ORDO HERETICUS! No excuse for that! What do people see in RHAPSODY RHYME? Hers 1-2-0? MARIONETTE PETS ain't talkin', but she's got 5 points. A fighter's lot is filled with strife, revenge, and killing. Some fighters don't accept this. The best do. Is it my imagination, or are fighters getting younger every day? To die so young, so gloriously! Many other cities have retirement homes for aged warriors. Any plans here? Are you as tired of reading this as I am of writing it? Actually, I guess I'm writing it before you read it. Oh, well. Time for my medication, so I'll leave now. Practice, practice, practice!-- Olaf Modeen DUELMASTER W L K POINTS TEAM NAME MAORAKITH 8214 6 1 1 66 HELLSWORN (1421) ADEPTS W L K POINTS TEAM NAME EDGILES KAPP 8244 6 1 0 42 MIDDLE WAY 15 (1427) BAZTHRAX 8281 4 1 0 41 HELLSWORN (1421) CHALLENGER INITIATES W L K POINTS TEAM NAME DORTHA JANETTO 8243 5 2 0 33 MIDDLE WAY 15 (1427) SINSTER MINSTER 8277 3 0 1 33 MARIONETTE PETS (1433) BELISSA HOUGH 8241 4 3 0 32 MIDDLE WAY 15 (1427) SOLEMN GOLEM 8278 3 0 1 29 MARIONETTE PETS (1433) ANGUS 8280 3 1 2 28 MISFIT CREW (1417) SARJSKI 8282 4 1 0 26 HELLSWORN (1421) INITIATES W L K POINTS TEAM NAME FLAVIUS VALERIUS 8323 2 1 0 19 TEAM CHAOS (1416) VRANCELLE 8283 4 1 0 17 HELLSWORN (1421) SHIMTAINT 8350 1 0 0 16 INDIGO CIPHER (1445) AURORA 8189 4 3 0 15 TEAM CHAOS (1416) -MYRA 8191 3 3 2 15 MISFIT CREW (1417) TOBIUS 8209 3 0 0 15 ORDO HERETICUS (1420) GULLET 8207 2 1 0 14 ORDO HERETICUS (1420) XIAN THE BLACK 8353 1 0 0 14 INDIGO CIPHER (1445) -GROTHEN 8194 3 3 1 13 MISFIT CREW (1417) INITIATES W L K POINTS TEAM NAME STRATUS 8185 3 4 0 13 TEAM CHAOS (1416) -MEAN TEA 8190 3 3 0 12 MISFIT CREW (1417) -CROCKER 8192 3 3 0 12 MISFIT CREW (1417) OBBO 8336 2 0 0 12 HELLSWORN (1421) -SERAPHINA 8304 1 0 1 11 THE SIRENS OF OLE (1437) AURELIUS GAIUS 8322 1 2 0 10 TEAM CHAOS (1416) -OLIDAMARRA 8303 1 0 0 10 THE SIRENS OF OLE (1437) CHUCKER ISTTA 8242 1 6 0 9 MIDDLE WAY 15 (1427) JON 8286 2 1 0 8 CANOE CLUB (1434) LIONHEART 8288 1 2 0 8 CANOE CLUB (1434) OBERON 8349 1 0 0 8 INDIGO CIPHER (1445) YOUSEFF 8208 2 1 0 7 ORDO HERETICUS (1420) ARVIN LARN 8289 1 0 1 7 ORDO HERETICUS (1420) RICK 8284 1 2 0 7 CANOE CLUB (1434) GRIMJAW 8343 1 0 0 6 CANOE CLUB (1434) -AGATHA 8301 1 0 0 6 THE SIRENS OF OLE (1437) RHAPSODY RHYME 8275 1 2 0 5 MARIONETTE PETS (1433) COG TWOTHUDS 8351 1 0 0 5 INDIGO CIPHER (1445) BEQUIN 8206 1 2 0 5 ORDO HERETICUS (1420) PIER 8326 1 0 0 4 FOLLOWER'S OF XOAN (1441) LOATHING MAULER 8279 0 3 0 3 MARIONETTE PETS (1433) -CHARLAVAY 8305 0 1 0 1 THE SIRENS OF OLE (1437) OCTIS 8328 0 1 0 1 FOLLOWER'S OF XOAN (1441) TOPO GIGIO 8360 0 1 0 1 TEAM CHAOS (1416) OGLA 8325 0 1 0 1 FOLLOWER'S OF XOAN (1441) MALEEVA 8352 0 1 0 1 INDIGO CIPHER (1445) -CRYSYANNA 8302 0 1 0 1 THE SIRENS OF OLE (1437) '-' denotes a warrior who did not fight this turn. THE DEAD W L K TEAM NAME SLAIN BY TURN Revenge? VENEMOUS CONCUBINE 15 0 1 0 1 MAORAKITH 8214 216 NONE ARGYLE 8285 0 1 0 CANOE CLUB 1434 SERAPHINA 8304 214 BOB 8287 0 2 0 CANOE CLUB 1434 MYRA 8191 215 GEMINI 8220 0 2 0 DRAGON DANCERS 1423 GROTHEN 8194 212 NOT REVE D'ILLNESS 8327 0 1 0 FOLLOWER'S OF XO 1441 MASTER SEN GANAMIR 23 216 NONE QUALIX 8324 0 1 0 FOLLOWER'S OF XO 1441 BANDIT PRINCE 25 216 NONE ALLEGORY MASQUE 8276 1 2 0 MARIONETTE PETS 1433 STONE GOLEM 26 216 NONE CULLY IRVEL 8342 0 2 0 MIDDLE WAY 15 1427 ARVIN LARN 8289 216 ADRION GOTMALK 8240 1 2 0 MIDDLE WAY 15 1427 MASTER OF BLADES 8263 212 NOT REVE BERT HARGE 8329 0 1 0 MIDDLE WAY 15 1427 ANGUS 8280 214 REVENGED ORION 8186 2 4 0 TEAM CHAOS 1416 SOLEMN GOLEM 8278 215 LOKI 8187 1 3 0 TEAM CHAOS 1416 SINSTER MINSTER 8277 213 PERSONAL ADS To All the Various and Sundry Personalities of the Consortium -- He's a he. Drake that is. That would be me. At least I was last time I checked. In any case, you should know since your earthly rep met me once at a FtF a couple years back. Also no offence was meant. After all, I know well what it's like having several voices in your head (having had a set of mind-linked clones made of myself nearly a decade and a half ago). -- Drake, the One and Several P.S. Good to know that Jorja and I aren't the only established managers who keep an eye on the newby arena. Drake's Comments on Last Turn's Articles: Note that I'm specifically writing about the articles that appear at the end of the newsletter as they tend to be a bit dated and thus misleading. Those articles that appear under the Team Spotlight heading are going to be far more recent and thus accurate in the info they provide. So, with that in mind, here we go: 'GETTING THE JUMP' by Pagan -- This is an interesting theory on how the program determines who goes first. What it seriously lacks, in my opinion, is any commentary on how you can make this knowledge work for you. First a couple of comments on the theory itself -- The "Knack String" theory is the subject of serious debate among experienced managers. It might exist, it might not, but even if it does, you have no control over it. Also, I'm skeptical of his formula in Step 3 as I'm pretty sure SPD and WIT only contribute their Decisiveness skills and nothing more to getting the jump. Other than that, I think the theory is fairly solid. As to how to use this info, the following factors are key if you want to get the jump: A -- Have a higher Decisiveness rating (certain styles have naturally higher Decise ratings: tier 1 = ST, BA & AB, tier 2 = LU & SL, tier 3 = PL, PS & WS, tier 4 = TP & PR), B -- Use the Decisiveness or Lunge tactic (Responsiveness can give you the jump but only if your foe is running with the Decise tactic), C -- Use a high Offensive Effort, D -- Use lightweight weapons and armor (there are a couple exceptions like the LS & QS but in general lighter weapons attack quicker). All the other factors you really don't have any control over. 'CONSTITUTION' by Sir Jessie Jest -- The formula listed for Hit Points is out of date. The current chart (which is 100% accurate) shows the 2*CN is modified as follows: SZmod: 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 0 0 +1 +1 +2 +2 +3 +3 +5 +5 +6 +6 +7 +7 +8 +8 +9 +9 +10 WLmod 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 0 0 +1 +1 +2 +2 +2 +2 +2 +2 +2 +2 +3 +3 +4 +4 +5 +5 +6 +7 +8 +9 +10 RATINGS Very frail 6-21 Cannot take alot 22-26 Average 27-35 A lot 36-40 Tremendous 41-53 Seemingly unaffected 54+ 'The Real Offensive Total Parry' by Blackstorm -- I have a lot of disagreements with this article. First, TPs (even non-scum) can get away with a 13 Wit by virtue of their long fights. 15 & 17 are far better, but 13 is workable. Will must be 15 or higher. Will is a primary factor in determining how likely your warrior is to give up when hit. TPs with a 21 Will hang on forever. DFT doesn't really need to be higher than 11. You're more concerned with HPs (at least Normal), Endurance (at least Good), and skill learning far before you're worried about Coordination. I've graduated several TPs w/ 70%+ records with Slightly Uncoordinated or worse who put their foes down by force of arms within 2 or 3 minutes. His strategy is bad. Keep your Offensive Effort and Activity Level at 6 or less and catch your opponent on the Riposte. Don't try to force your TP to attack. Put them in as much armor as they can carry and give them a sword/axe and shield combo. 'HOW TO PHONE IN YOUR TURNS' by The Transcriber -- I see nothing to disagree with here. ;-) 'AVOIDS, BLOODFEUDS, & CHALLENGES' by Pagan -- This article is okay. It's a fairly solid theory on how the challenge system works. 'ANOTHER BEGINNER'S GUIDE TO DUELMASTERS, BUT WRITTEN BY A DIFFERENT MANAGER' by Jolly -- Man, that's a title. A pretty good article for as general as it is. His defensives have less CON than I like to give them, and his sample stat lines are very rare finds, but otherwise I'm in agreement with the rest of the article. 'ARE YOU AT YOUR WIT'S END??' by Destitute Noble -- A nice simple article about some of the basics and where to get more info. Very nice. One thing to note though is that the Duelmasters Round Table email list became largely defunct with the creation of the forums out on www.duel2.com 'The Darque Slasher' by Master Darque -- A nice slasher article. No objections from me. 'Yet Another Striker Article' by Tex -- Tex and I had a few debates about Strikers back in the day. We were both dedicated Striker managers, both did well, and both had slightly different philosophies on Striker design. The main differences are that I advocate slightly less STR (I've gone as low as 7 but prefer 9 or 11) and less DFT (you can go as low as 7 and still get the BS, but I'd suggest no more or less than an 11; it's a major skill and weapon selection breakpoint). Also, I like more WIL (min 9 for Basic or 15 if you want to develop in ADM) and SPD (6+ if WIL is 17+, otherwise 8+). His strategy is a pretty standard Striker strat and there's nothing wrong with it. 'The Godling Heresy' by Jorja -- This article makes an important point in that the things you can't control (favorite weapon, skill bonus, etc) play an important part in how successful a warrior will be (especially later in its career). However, one of the reasons that I advocate WIT & WIL of 15+ if at all possible in development. With less than a 15 WIT, you'll learn skills slowly and take longer to max out skills. With less than a 15 WIL, stat trains (which is all that's left after skills are maxxed) will come slowly. You could keep running low WIT/WIL warriors until they max, and they may be godlike when they do, but it will be a long hard road with a lot of losses (especially in ADM) along the way. 'THE HIGH STRENGTH AIMED BLOW' by Donald Trump -- Okay, this is a mutant Aimer. I'd call it a 'Tank' because of the armor and reliance on damage-taking, but it doesn't have enough CON. Low CON plus low SPD usually equals a warrior that can't take a hit who gets out-jumped a lot. Also, Aimers do damage by where they hit, not how hard they hit. So, my big differences are not so much STR (9 or 11 should do you, but try to get Good damage) and more SPD (6+ if WIL is 17+, 8+ otherwise). As to his strat, his minute one is okay, but in minutes 2 to 6 I like to slow them down as they tend to have low favorites. I'll generally run somewhere in the 4-7 range for OE and 1-4 range for AL. 'The Zen of Putting Your Opponents Six Feet Under' by Merlin -- A pretty good article if you're wanting to rack up kills. Just remember, you can't kill anyone by hitting them in the arm or leg. 'WARRIOR DESIGN' by the Rogue She-Puppy -- A pretty good basic article. I see nothing that needs to be disagreed with. 'FILLING OUT YOUR TURNSHEET' by the Rogue She-Puppy -- I would hope you'd already know how to do this, but in case you don't... 'Are You Ready To Take Tournament Play Seriously?' by Pagan -- It should be noted that the Basic D2 cut-offs are no longer accurate. You'll see what they actually are once the next tournament gets announced. Otherwise, these are pretty good tips if you want to become a tournament manager. Personally I prefer regular arena play. Another general note for everyone. I strongly recommend those with internet access check out www.terrablood.com for all kinds of useful charts, tips & hints to help with this game. Also, visit the Forums on www.duel2.com where you can converse with many of the more experienced managers in the game. If you don't have internet access, contact me with a mailing address and I'll see about putting together a small 'D2 Care Package' with some of the more commonly used charts. -- Drake (who can be reached by diploing Drake's Comics in DM 47, emailing dm_drake@sbcglobal.net or you can find me on the Duel2 website posting under the name Drake; who'da guessed) Bequin -- I know, I swing like a three-toed sloth stuck in molasses. -- Mauler Grothen -- I'm afraid knot. -- Golem Chaos -- Forgive me fodder, for I have sinned. -- Sinister Minister Youseff -- Yous heretics are all the same eff ye' are me. -- Sublime Rhyme Captured Orc -- You got lucky. -- Maorakith Edgiles Kapp -- You deserve to be champ. -- Bazthrax Charlavay -- Well fought! -- Vrancelle Grothen -- You could have taught better. -- Sarjski Myra -- You suck so come get some. -- Masorakith Belissa Hough -- We like hell. -- Bazthrax P.S. My deftness is low cuz I only have one eye. Noblish Island Managers -- Good day to you, and well met. Kindly allow me to introduce myself. I am Adeolar Marianka, Sun Priestess and Wizard. I am better known as Adie. I own a number of team stables, one of which my right hand man Tankesh Dushanbe manages in Aruak City. The team is known affectionately as the Tuft Tuggers (I have a habit of twisting a finger through my hair). This advertisement is to promote our arena to you, the future stars of gladiatorial management. Aruak City (Arena-11) is the Heart and Soul of Andoria, a kingdom born of a league of small nation states that banded together for mutual protection, and because of mutual beliefs. Beliefs and qualities such as health, humility, kindness, sympathy, camaraderie, community, and many say... honor. In our arena, it is severely looked down upon if one downchallenges, and we try our utmost to avoid killing each other's gladiators. Many gladiators are my personal friends and loved ones, as are other managers. If you believe in these qualities, but seek fierce competitveness, and good natured rivalries, and you have the knowledge that accidental deaths are avenged with humiliating losses but with the compassion to avoid killing in retribution, then Aruak City is for you. We routinely strongly defend our community, our style of honor, against interfering managers, and we regularly post ads, spotlights, and responses to questions or requests for assistance. If you feel this is the core of your beliefs, we invite you to Aruak City where chivalry and competitive honorable dueling live on in the Heart and Soul of Andoria. -- Lady Adeolar "Blackwood" Marianka, Arena 11 P.S. If you address Tankesh in Aruak City, be warned he has an ego and a big mouth (don't tell him I said so please), but you will never find a better friend or ally if your heart is true. Angus -- Well, the thing is, they tell me that my weapon is faster than yours. You might want to give it a try sometime. -- Dortha Janetto Bazthrax -- Fighting you is like beating my head against a stone wall. It feels so good to stop! -- Belissa Hough Heck, the Kung-Fu Master. I have never felt the least urge to study Kung-Fu, and I feel sure that if I could get the Master alone in an alley, him unarmed and me armed, I could mosterize him. -- Edgiles Kapp Jon -- You have to be a size nine for that. Try the shorter version next time. -- Chucker Istta P.S. Since you can't train your SZ. Sarjski -- Things will be different when I get my race listed properly. Anybody could see that I'm not a dwarf, I don't have a beard! -- Cully Irvel P.S. Oh, Jorja says you might want to consider some other backup. She doesn't think much of the one you've got, but face it, she's a basher at heart, what does she know about blades? Drake -- A good policy. I did that with the other spots, although it's been a while since I went over them (going to do it maybe this weekend, though). I sent 'em to Ed, and between us we've worked up a set of ten repeating spots, mine and the Question of the Week stuff. -- Jorja Pandora Kusillo -- Because Jorja is my manager, and I try to keep as much distance as possible between us. -- Chucker Istta Mean Tea -- I bet you never challenge me again. -- Vrancelle Belissa Hough -- Had to ask for another dance. -- Bazthrax Loathing Mauler -- I like the way you fight. -- Obbo Cully Irvel -- I'm sure glad you missed. -- Sarjski Chaos -- BAH! Yer not fer' avengin' me fer doin' whut me masters tellin' me ter be doin now, are ye? Bah, fer whut it's worth, me condolences (te he). -- Golem Obbo -- Obbo getchu back when duh swelwin' goeth down. -- Mauler Aurelius -- Do you see stars? -- Rhapsody Aurora -- Due to my most unfortunate demise I think I'll go KILL myself...goodbye cruel world...(whimper, sniff, sniff) -- Masque Stratus -- Woe to ye who seek revenge, thou knowest not the fury of the puppetmaster. -- Minister Lightbearer -- Well met! All yes, perhaps a private showing? Voices? A frayed knot, get it, afraid...oh o.k. I'll do voices! -- Puppetmaster All -- I welcome myself to D2 and, hope to meet some of you in the arena...if you're not scared. -- Orellon Silvercloak, mgr Indigo Cipher Maorakith -- Soon I hope to have a fighter to achieve what you have done. I commend you on your victory and hope to achieve that soon. -- Orellon Sillvercloak, mgr Indigo Cipher All -- Any advice for a newbie to D2 would be helpful...my fighters don't add to what I expected from other RPG stats. A new environ, a new challenge. -- Orellon Silvercloak, mgr Indigo Cipher First advice, save all ten of your Noblish Island newsletters. They constitute a fairly useful handbook in themselves. Ask questions, and someone will try to answer them. The more specific the question, the easier it is to answer. 11 August 2006 All -- I support Vendetta Cartel's observation of The Dark Knights! If war is declared on V.C. by The Dark Knights, then war is also declared on The Dark Knights of the Desolate Empire by The Avengers of Light! We have been quietly awaiting such a chance to expose ourselves (all interested parties contact me c/o The Barbarians: DM 31, Attn: Timothias)! Come, Vendetta Cartel, let us show these broke-down "Knights" what true warriors are! -- Gemini Goldphoenix, Overlord of The Avengers of Light 26 August 2006 The Avengers of Light. Another VC lackey? What's the matter VC, are you scared? Bringing in reinforcements. It matters not, bring your avengers and they shall be crushed! I am Dark Knight Blackstorm and I represent the Desolate Empire and can easily be found in 8, 28, 31, 47, 54, and 106. I reply with steel and your women shall cry when they start the body count!!!!!!!!! Remember to sign your posts to whoever from the VC wrote that earlier Ad. -- Dark Knight Blackstorm LAST WEEK'S FIGHTS ALLEGORY MASQUE was butchered by STONE GOLEM in a 3 minute bloody Dark Arena fight. D'ILLNESS was slaughtered by MASTER SEN GANAMIR in a 1 minute Dark Arena battle. QUALIX was murdered by BANDIT PRINCE in a 1 minute Dark Arena fight. AURORA was vanquished by SINSTER MINSTER in a 1 minute mismatched Bloodfeud brawl. STRATUS was overpowered by SOLEMN GOLEM in a 1 minute one-sided Bloodfeud fight. BAZTHRAX unbelievably bested DORTHA JANETTO in a 3 minute Challenge brawl. LOATHING MAULER was outwaited by RICK in a 7 minute amateur's Challenge match. ANGUS overcame VRANCELLE in a 1 minute beginner's Challenge fight. FLAVIUS VALERIUS won victory over JON in a 1 minute beginner's Challenge duel. AURELIUS GAIUS viciously subdued RHAPSODY RHYME in a 1 minute Challenge fight. MAORAKITH assassinated VENEMOUS CONCUBINE in a 1 minute uneven Title match. EDGILES KAPP beat FRATSFA SLAVE in a 1 minute fight. SARJSKI savagely defeated CHUCKER ISTTA in a 2 minute bloody match. BELISSA HOUGH handily defeated CULT MEMBER in a 1 minute one-sided contest. TOBIUS luckily beat LIONHEART in a unpopular 8 minute bloody novice's brawl. YOUSEFF was luckily beaten by XIAN THE BLACK in a 4 minute novice's duel. GULLET handily defeated OGLA in a 1 minute mismatched bout. BEQUIN was viciously subdued by OBBO in a 2 minute brutal novice's brawl. CULLY IRVEL was narrowly killed by ARVIN LARN in a 1 minute brutal novice's bout. PIER savagely defeated MALEEVA in a unpopular 6 minute gory amateur's conflict. OCTIS was luckily beaten by COG TWOTHUDS in a 2 minute gory novice's duel. GRIMJAW overcame TOPO GIGIO in a 2 minute beginner's duel. OBERON bested CONVICTED THIEF in a 1 minute novice's bout. SHIMTAINT luckily beat EMBEZZLING SCRIBE in a exciting 3 minute gory beginner's fight. BATTLE REPORT MOST POPULAR RECORD DURING THE LAST 10 TURNS |FIGHTING STYLE FIGHTS FIGHTING STYLE W - L - K PERCENT| |LUNGING ATTACK 9 BASHING ATTACK 30 - 17 - 4 64 | |BASHING ATTACK 7 SLASHING ATTACK 20 - 13 - 3 61 | |TOTAL PARRY 6 LUNGING ATTACK 19 - 13 - 2 59 | |SLASHING ATTACK 4 TOTAL PARRY 16 - 17 - 2 48 | |STRIKING ATTACK 4 PARRY-RIPOSTE 9 - 10 - 0 47 | |PARRY-RIPOSTE 4 STRIKING ATTACK 18 - 21 - 0 46 | |PARRY-STRIKE 3 AIMED BLOW 12 - 18 - 0 40 | |PARRY-LUNGE 2 PARRY-LUNGE 3 - 5 - 0 38 | |AIMED BLOW 1 PARRY-STRIKE 5 - 9 - 0 36 | |WALL OF STEEL 0 WALL OF STEEL 3 - 10 - 1 23 | Turn 216 was great if you Not so great if you used The fighting styles of the used the fighting styles: the fighting styles: top eleven warriors are: AIMED BLOW 1 - 0 LUNGING ATTACK 4 - 5 4 BASHING ATTACK SLASHING ATTACK 3 - 1 PARRY-STRIKE 1 - 2 2 LUNGING ATTACK TOTAL PARRY 4 - 2 PARRY-RIPOSTE 1 - 3 2 STRIKING ATTACK BASHING ATTACK 4 - 3 WALL OF STEEL 0 - 0 2 SLASHING ATTACK PARRY-LUNGE 1 - 1 1 TOTAL PARRY STRIKING ATTACK 2 - 2 TOP WARRIOR OF EACH STYLE FIGHTING STYLE WARRIOR W L K PNTS TEAM NAME LUNGING ATTACK MAORAKITH 8214 6 1 1 66 HELLSWORN (1421) BASHING ATTACK EDGILES KAPP 8244 6 1 0 42 MIDDLE WAY 15 (1427) TOTAL PARRY BAZTHRAX 8281 4 1 0 41 HELLSWORN (1421) Note: Warriors have a winning record and are an Adept or Above. The overall popularity leader is BELISSA HOUGH 8241. The most popular warrior this turn was DORTHA JANETTO 8243. The ten other most popular fighters were YOUSEFF 8208, LOATHING MAULER 8279, SARJSKI 8282, OBBO 8336, AURELIUS GAIUS 8322, SINSTER MINSTER 8277, GULLET 8207, OCTIS 8328, GRIMJAW 8343, and SHIMTAINT 8350. The least popular fighter this week was MALEEVA 8352. The other ten least popular fighters were TOBIUS 8209, PIER 8326, BEQUIN 8206, OGLA 8325, CHUCKER ISTTA 8242, RHAPSODY RHYME 8275, STRATUS 8185, AURORA 8189, QUALIX 8324, and D'ILLNESS 8327. A SACRED LORD'S SLASHER Well, this article/spotlight is for Seal at 7th Order, so here goes. ST: If he's huge (15+), 3 is okay, and use HA. I prefer 7 for epee. 9 gets scimitar and 11 gets broadsword. Anything above 11 is a WASTE!!! CN: Whatever they send you. SZ: Any. WT: 15, 17, or 21. 13 is workable, but I hate slow learners! 21 will probably take a lot from other areas, so 17 is best. WL: 17, 17, 17!!!! You need endurance, lots of endurance. Some of my friends use 15, but I prefer not to. SP: 9+ They use SP as well as most, but don't add here until after WT/WL/DF. DF: 15+, 15+, 15+. Once again, I have high standards. The reason? Have you ever had a slasher come out w/ "relying on his speed to stay out of trouble"? That's 'cause his parry is in the negative. With a 15 DF your slasher will have a much better parry and will probably be about 1-3 trains from a Master parry in advanced. Later on, you'll see! Now, how to run them: 10 9 7 -------------------------> 10 10 4 2 -------------------------> 10 7 9 7 -------------------------> 1 CH/HE -------------------------------------------- > HE ----------------------------------------------- > Off: D at first, open later, min 2 +, open Def: D/S (preferably Dodge) Min two+ is in case of a TP or WoS coming after you. This setup works, so good luck! Mike Bookout Bookie, Sacred Lord of the Black Regime Memphis Mafia (36,100) P.S. Anybody want to join the Regime? The Dark Arena: A Fighter's Perspective (sung to the hymn: Battle Hymn of the Republic) Mine eyes have seen the glory Of the coming of the dawn I am walking down the tunnel After everyone is gone I step into the torchlight And I see the blade he's drawn My mind, it sings this song: CHORUS Worry, worry, I've come for ya Worry, worry, I've come for ya Worry, worry, I've come for ya My mind continues on The crowd is chanting praises But all I hear are growls Mine enemy's upon me So I strike him and he howls Parry, parry, slash, and parry I smell his breath so foul And death, he sings this song: (CHORUS) Now we both are tired And my strength is fading fast Oh, let me give that fatal blow Oh, let me be the last I swing my sword with all my might The crowd it stands, aghast As he dies, I sing my song: (CHORUS x2) Scotlan (28, 31, 39, 50, ?) Kill Desire: "Patience." Many times I have lost warriors, and the manager claimed the KD was only five. As if KD had anything to do with the death of my fighter. It was really the battle axe to the head that killed him. I was quite disturbed at the widespread belief that kill desire has something to do with killing an opponent. But they have good reason to believe this: the Duelmasters Handbook definition of kill desire has a tendency to cast a "confusion spell" on the reader to make them think that way. The wording is very misleading. The name "kill desire" is also misleading. A more correct word would be "patience." Yes, kill desire is actually how much patience your fighter had before taking a shot. KD doesn't add damage or tell your fighter where to aim at. Damage is calculated by weapon and strength. (Of course, favorite weapon also affects damage.) You let your warrior know where you want him to aim at by filling out the attack location boxes on the fight sheets. Hit location and damage are the main two things that will kill warriors. Hit locations to vital areas such as head, chest, and the abdomen repeated times increases your chance to kill. The amount of damage inflicted to these vital areas also increases your chance to kill an opponent. As you see, none of this has anything to do with kill desire. Now, I will tell you what kill desire, or patience, as I call it, actually is. If you run your warrior with an 8-10 KD, you're telling him to swing like a drunken wildman. You'll see statements in his fights that say "swings wildly" or other things to that effect. He is not waiting for a good opening. He is swinging at everything! This is bad for several reasons. With his KD that high, he is very easily dodged and parried. Also, he can be feinted into bad dueling decisions as well. I think that KD between 5-7 for offensive styles and 3-6 for defensive styles is perfect. You get a lot more hits with a 5-7 KD, and feint a lot less. But you also get more kills in this range. Reason being, you're waiting for a good shot that is hard to dodge or parry. The example I used earlier about the manager with the 5 KD and battleaxe is the point I am trying to make. If his warrior's KD was 10, my warrior could have dodged or parried the attack and still be alive today. But since it was a 5 KD, he waited for a good shot that my warrior had trouble defending against, and cleaved his head off! (Well, not literally.) Defensive styles run about 3-6 KD. Defensive styles swing wildly a lot in the beginning, but that is natural. They will get better. 3-4 KD, they still have a tendency to let attacks go by. Of course, if you're scumming, go with a 1 KD. In short, having an 8-10 KD means your warrior is doing all that swinging and hitting less. Not to mention all the endurance he is burning up to no avail. Any comments, you can diplo me. ta-ta, Sir Jessie Jest DM 11: Lords of the Abyss DM 61: Pit Fiends DM 67: Storm Wizards DM 5: Bad Girls SOME INFO ON THE RIPPER Being that the parry-riposte is my favorite style, I thought I'd share a few things I've learned. General design: ST: 7-11 Strength isn't all important to the P.R. An 11 will gives you all well suited weapons. I'll even go as high as 17, but with no dramatic effect. CN: Any A higher con will give a better endurance and make survival easier. SZ: Any Although a smaller size gives you a defensive bonus. WT: 15-21 As with all other styles the higher the better. 15 will give the epee. A P.R. needs to learn skills to survive. WL: 13-21 Will is as important as wit. It helps endurance and life expectancy. A higher will allows you to pick apart most scum. SP: 5-13 13 is a major breakpoint but it's not necessary to go that high. A combo of 15 wit, 15 deftness and 11 speed will give you an expert in riposte with any luck. DF: 13-21 The higher the coordination the easier it is to hit your attack location. A 15 will give you the epee. The perfect P.R. would look something like this: 9-4-5-17-21-11-17 with starting skill bases like: Ini: 60% Rip: 90% Att: 75% Par: 70% Def: 75% Dec: 40% One of my first PRs looked like this: 15-10-9-15-15-6-14, Thror the Dark. He was extremely unlucky as far as starting skills. He now looks a little different: 17-11- 9-17-16-7-15 with 90% Init, 145% Rip, 130% Att, 130% Par, 115% Def and 80% Dec. I destroyed him with early stat raises. I had a similar design that was luckier, at least until he got X-ed by a slasher in a tourney. He died with a 12-3-1 record. But enough of that. You're probably wanting to get on with the strategies. So getting on with it, I've tried both offensive and defensive strategies. Generally defensive has worked better for me. Something like: 3-6-6 going offensive in minute 3 or 4 with a 10-8-6 or a 9-7-6 and then backing off to a 6-4-6 or a 4-5-6. As far as tactics go I don't use 'em very often. If you use any offensive tactic use the lunge or nothing. Defensively use dodge and parry sparingly, if at all, and don't use the riposte tactic after you've achieved a master. Okay, now on to weapons and armor. A parry-riposte is somewhat limited when it comes to weapons. The longsword is their best choice against heavier armors. I once tried the halberd (I'll wait until you finish laughing.) Anyway, Thror the Dark savagely slew Spymaster with it. I only give the PR an off hand weapon with epee, shortsword or the longsword. I've done varying things with armor, but I've found that lighter armor works better, personal favorites being APL, ARM, and ASM. I read an article about the parry-riposte of coom that made me laugh. It said something about wearing more armor than expected of a PR, listing nothing higher than ACM+F. Imagine what he would have thought fighting Thror the Dark in APA+F. This is just an opinion brought to you by Necrom, manager of Knightmares (33), Pentad Paladins (55), Northlanders (70) and a couple of others. Crimson Strikers Greetings, fellow managers, I, Crimson Strategist, shall share my thoughts with you on the striking attack style. This style developed in cultures where weapon quality surpassed that of the armors, this made landing the first blow vital. This blow is usually delivered in a downward fashion quickly, surely, and with power in a minimal of wasted motion. Here's how I rate the stats: ST 11-15: Never go below 11, strikers are well suited to ALL the weapons in the game and 11 allows the use of the majority of them. They also need to hurt their foe when they hit, thus making this an important consideration for damage rating. CN 3-9: This whole style revolves around finishing your foe quickly, if your foe has time to develop a complex formal attack on your striker, then you're not fighting him properly. A properly run striker should never be hit more than four or five times, any more than this and the whole concept behind this style gets thrown right out the window, therefore I rate con as the least important attribute for this style. SZ 9-16: A size of 9 allows use of all the weapons and it is important in determining your damage rating, plus, it also adds to your init and this style thrives on init. WT 13+: As with any style, the higher the better. 13 is rock bottom, it allows the use of all weapons except the epee and you'll still learn at a decent pace. WL 7-13: This style conserves endurance which allows this attribute to go considerably less than most styles and still fight effectively for a respectable length of time. I've had strikers with a 13 ST, 3 CN, and 5 WL get poor endurance ratings and ones with 11 ST, 6 CN, and 9 WL get normal. However, if you want some long term potential, you'd want to be around 13 or so. SP 10+: This is very important for decise and init skills which are the heart of this style. Landing the first blow and finishing the fight quickly is hinged on your striker's speed. DF 15+: This is crucial attribute for this style, they NEED to be precise with their blows, plus, it also adds to their init. Get to 17 or 21 if possible. Now let's take a look at the style itself. The striking attack is one of the easiest styles to run, yet they have adversity that many styles lack. As I've said before, a striker can use ALL the weapons in the game. They can fight effectively wearing plate armor and no armor, they can use EVERY tactic in the game be it offensive or defensive, a striker can fight like a lunger or basher, ripper or slasher, etc... provided that you match up their strategy with the appropriate tactic and weapon. They can beat ALL the styles in DM and beyond if you choose their strategy correctly for that particular style vs. style matchup. Here are some examples of style vs. style matchups for strikers and various tactic selections vs. the different styles. High decise strikers over slashers and lungers, strikers over total parry and wall of steel, rippers over strikers, etc... Using the decise tactic vs. lungers, slashers, and aimed blows. Using the lunge tactic vs. rippers and aimed blows, using no tactic and having a moderate offensive effort and moderate activity level vs. total parries and wall of steel, etc... The possible variations for this style are virtually endless. Now let's take a brief look at your striker overview and glean some helpful hints on how to fight them. If you see statements like "relying on speed to stay out of danger" or "avoiding rather than trading blows," this is telling you that your AL should be moderate to high. If he does great damage, then don't use weapons like the epee or shortsword, this would be an underutilization of his strengths. If he learns attack skills easily, then this is telling you that he likes to take his time and pick his shots so don't send him out with a 10 OE! If you see statements like "has learned how to be a decisive and quick fighter," then by all means USE the decise tactic with a high OE. Don't send him out with offhand weapons unless he's ambidextrous, if you do, it will take away from his attack. As you can see, the various statements on your overview are very helpful in telling you how your striker likes to fight. Here's a very general strategy that has worked well for my strikers. OE 10 8 7 7 7 6 6 Armor: ARM to ACM AL 4 3 2 1 1 1 8 Weapons: BS,LO,SC,GS,BA KD 6 6 6 6 6 6 5 ATT LOC Head, body, arms PRO LOC Head or body OFF TCT Decise or bash DEF TCT Response or dodge Before I close there is one last point I wish to emphasize, USE the challenge/avoid system, it will help control who you fight and when. In closing, I would like to thank the following managers for their diplos and articles which helped me learn the game: Sir Jessie Jest, Talon, Tex, the managers on the roundtable, and numerous others who took their time to put quill and ink on parchment and pass their knowledge on to others, thanks! Many of you know the Crimson Death stables or soon will know them since I plan to have quite a few of them up and running, however, some of them will be on and off due to monetary fluctuations so if you wish to diplo me with any comments, criticisms, whatever, send them to my home arena, which, from here on out, will always be active. Later, Crimson Strategist Crimson Death DM 61