DUEL 2 NEWSLETTER
Date : 05/05/2012 Duedate: 05/18/2012
NOBLISH ISLAND ARENA
DM-93 TURN-350
This Weeks Top Honors
THE DUELMASTER IS
BUSY
BASH BROS TELEPHONE (1588)
(93-9223) [7-2-0,84]
Chartered Recognition Leader Unchartered Recognition Leader
POSITION IS EMPTY BUSY
BASH BROS TELEPHONE (1588)
(93-9223) [7-2-0,84]
Popularity Leader This Weeks Favorite
CONTRACT BRIDGE UGHH
FAVORITE GAMES (1587) THE HERQULOIDS (1601)
(93-9218) [6-3-0,29] (93-9292) [1-0-0,8]
THE CURRENT TOP TEAM
BRIDGE BURNERS (1592)
TEAMS ON THE MOVE TOP CAREER HONORS
Team Name Point Gain Chartered Team
1. BRIDGE BURNERS (1592) 44
2. LOW ROAD 3 (1589) 36 BRUTE STRENGTH (491)
3. DIE TODESBLUMEN (1602) 36 Unchartered Team
4. BASH BROS TELEPHONE (1588) 35
5. THE HERQULOIDS (1601) 24 FAVORITE GAMES (1587)
The Top Teams
Career Win-Loss Record W L K % Win-Loss Record Last 3 Turns W L K
1/ 1*FAVORITE GAMES (1587) 31 14 0 68.9 1/ 6*BRIDGE BURNERS (1592) 10 3 3
2- 2*CRIT-GIVERS (1593) 10 5 0 66.7 2/ 3*LOW ROAD 3 (1589) 10 5 1
3/ 4*BASH BROS TELEPHO (1588) 28 17 0 62.2 3/ 1*FAVORITE GAMES (1587) 10 5 0
4/ 3*LOW ROAD 3 (1589) 24 16 2 60.0 4/ 4*BASH BROS TELEPHO (1588) 10 5 0
5/ 0*DIE TODESBLUMEN (1602) 3 2 0 60.0 5- 2*CRIT-GIVERS (1593) 5 5 0
6/ 6*OLIVA GALVARIUS (1586) 13 14 1 48.1 6/ 8*KNIGHT LIFE (1597) 4 5 0
7/ 5*THE FARSEERS (1591) 12 13 2 48.0 7/ 5*THE FARSEERS (1591) 4 6 1
8/ 8*BRIDGE BURNERS (1592) 11 12 3 47.8 8/ 0*DIE TODESBLUMEN (1602) 3 2 0
9/ 7*KNIGHT LIFE (1597) 4 5 0 44.4 9/ 9*BLOODY VIXENS (1595) 3 9 2
10/ 0*THE HERQULOIDS (1601) 2 3 0 40.0 10/ 7*OLIVA GALVARIUS (1586) 2 3 0
11/ 9*BLOODY VIXENS (1595) 3 9 2 25.0 11/ 0*THE HERQULOIDS (1601) 2 3 0
12/ 0*DRAGONS (1491) 1 9 0 10.0 12/ 0*DRAGONS (1491) 0 3 0
13-10*KISS OF DEATH (1249) 0 1 0 0.0 13-10*KISS OF DEATH (1249) 0 1 0
'*' Unchartered team '-' Team did not fight this turn
(###) Avoid teams by their Team Id ##/## This turn's/Last turn's rank
TEAM SPOTLIGHT
In the warriors war room, Mac D spoke quietly to Mi Mi, Honey Bee, Ma'Tee, and
Twinkles. "I'm sorry, girls."
"I can't believe she's dead," Twinkles said, openly crying.
"None of us can." Mac D said. "But be still, I've signed myself up to fight in
her place."
"What!?!" Mi Mi and Ma'tee shouted. "You can't fight! You're our leader, what
if you get hurt?"
"Calm down, Honey Bee, I'm just going to deal with Stormy, then... who know."
Mac D told her. "Meanwhile, I want you three to take the week off, out of respect
for Glitter, our lady killer..."
"But, your age..." Ma'Tee said.
"I'm not that old, you brute and I can still fit my armor, so I don't want to
hear another word." Mac D said, rising from his seat. "I got to go train up...
Between us, I'm dying to kill that halfblood..."
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Walking the streets of Noblish Island early in the morning gave De'von Kildor,
manager of Knight Life, time to think. After years as a soldier in Andor, De'von
could follow orders without question, yet giving them was something new. These
fighters, untrained and wild, believed he could help them somehow. His pride had no
problem asking the other managers for advise, if he could only find them.
Entering the inn where Knight Life was staying, De'von saw Barbra Jean crying
over a pint of ale, Beast bending an iron rod in half, and Mindy V pouting, all at a
table in the back.
"Uncle D, he's gone!" Barbra cries.
"Children, calm down. I know DeeJay Gee's death has scared you--" De'von
started.
"Scared! I'm not afraid of no one!" Beast yelled.
"Who should I be scared of? Kalan, or Brige Burners?" laughed Mindy.
"That's not what I was saying. You're adding words to my thoughts," complained
De'von.
"Kalam is MINE!" Beast declared.
"Okay, fine, I'll see what I can do. Where is Ken Do?" asked De'von.
"He's outside, practicing with the new weapons," Barbra informed him.
"That's good. Last week was a learning experience for all of us, but most of
all, me. I am sorry, Beast and Mindy, for setting you up for failure. I swear it
will never happen again," De'von promised all of them.
"Uncle D, may your time be mine for a moment?" Ken Do asked, walking inside.
"Sure. How is the weapon?" De'von responded.
"It is strong. It is not fast, but it will do. I must fight the best, so I
will be the best. I have only one goal: to take the Duelmaster's soul," Ken Do
said, violently.
"Hold it right there! I will not have any of that kind of talk on my team. We
will fight fairly and with honor. This is a sport, not kill or be killed. There is
something truly wrong with you, Ken." Shaking his head, De'von turned to the rest of
the team. "I have an idea for next week. Here's my plan...."
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WHAT'S ALL THIS?
Or
COMBINING PREVIOUS ARTICLES ON WARRIOR SKILL ET AL
I have combined and connected three previous spotlights from Teacher (another
Consortium affiliate) to try to bring the idea of warrior design and warrior skill
into perspective. If you have any questions about this--just ask in the personal
ads. Assur or Jorja, or me (Gamemaster), or all of us, will answer. Note: Having
already requested and received the Noblish Island available CIC from RSI would
simplify the discussion.
TEACHER'S CHEAT SHEET
Once upon a time there was along-time manager who decided to collect a lot of
valuable information, in irregular small print form, on only three pages of 8.5x11.
That manager, or group of managers, use said data information when:
1. The internet is down and the Terrablood/RSI sites are unavailable
2. Traveling around the world and "working D2 strategies" in unusual places
3. Quick information is needed
4. They feel like it
The information is not necessarily the prettiest, but it can be quite invaluable to
DMers.
Copies of that information are now available for Noblish Island managers.
Contact Jorja, the Noblish Island coordinator, or request it by mail directly from
RSI.
Most of the information on the data sheets is self-explanatory. Some will
require explanation. Most has been gathered from various sources over time in the DM
community. Much of it has been gathered empirically. (Meaning that the information
is not programming code, or from the designers, but rather gathered by users and
players of the game.) The information may not always be "perfect", but it is widely
used in this or similar form.
I will explain the information by placing it into two categories--
straightforward, and intricate. First let's cover what is in the first category.
The following charts/info fit the straightforward category. Some include simple
calculations.
1. WEAPON SUITABILITY -- shows which weapons are suited, marginal, or unsuited to a
style.
2. WEAPON REQUIREMENTS -- indicates the ST, SZ, WT, DF limitations for a weapon. It
also covers the weapon weight, the armor it is best used against, and whether it
is a slash, bash, lunge weapon. (Note: Assur just published an update last turn
with even more accurate data.)
3. INTELLIGENCE -- defines the WT needed for each rating.
4. DAMAGE -- reveals the approximate damage rating one should expect for all ST/SZ
combinations. Note: a luck roll factor can both hose and bless damage rating.
5. ENCUMBRANCE -- a table which shows what level of "carry" (encumbrance rating) one
should expect at all SZ/CN combinations.
6. HEIGHT -- a simple conversion between the SZ number and ft/in.
7. COORDINATION -- which is defined as SP + DF; the chart provides a summary of each
coordination rating and the "points" range for each
8. ENDURANCE -- most still use this calculation, although a "luck roll factor" can
alter the results slightly. The endurance rating which is WL x (ST+CN) is defined
for each rating.
9. HIT POINTS -- sometimes called "damage taking" is broken down in this chart. The
HP is defined as 3.75CN + 1.1SZ + 0.4 WL. The rating levels are defined by
"points."
And now for the more difficult to explain charts which interact with each other.
The three intricate charts are:
1. BAGMAN2 SKILL CHART -- this chart explains how many and what skills are added to
the warrior base for each stat point. (All stats add skills at certain levels except
CN.)
2. STYLE SKILL MODIFIER -- indicates the modification, by style, of skills per type.
This occurs "at birth" of the warrior.
3. HIGH WIT STATEMENTS -- a chart of phrases which indicate, at birth, the skill
level, by skill type, of your warrior. Note: there is a Low Wit Statement chart for
warriors with less that 8 WT, but it is very inaccurate (minimal empirical data) and
seldom used. It is not included in this collection of charts.
These three charts work together to help a warrior determine his anticipated
starting skills. They also define at which skill levels, per stat, that skills are
added during the warrior's development. Note: Depending on the warrior's style, it
is possible to be blessed or hosed by up to 4 skills by the "luck of the roll." The
other thing to remember is that an ambidextrous warrior gets one attack skill added
to his base at birth.
These intricate three charts, and the interaction between them, can seem quite
complicated. After a certain amount of trial-and-error, and/or by absorbing enough
advice, a manager finally "gets it."
Well, there's the bell ringing for the end of class. In our next session, we
will explore "how to use" the Teacher's Cheat Sheet.
HOW TO -- THE CIC
What can you do with the Consortium Information Collection (CIC)? How does one use
all that info? Contact RSI or Jorja in DM93 to get a copy.
You can use the information to:
1. Predict what your designed warrior is going to look like. (Indeed, you can use
the info to "try out" several design ideas, before you choose your final design.
2. Review the overview of the warrior you received to see if he/she is bonused/hosed.
3. Help keep track of the warrior's skills, including those earned from certain stat
raises.
4. Determine advantageous and usable weapons and armor for certain situations.
So let's examine the CIC in detail.
1. ***DAMAGE CHART*** This chart shows you the range of expected damage doing your
character will yield. For example, a SZ16, 10ST warrior yields "-R+", meaning
great damage is typical, but lower and higher are not uncommon. Damage doing is
dependent on SZ, ST, and luck of the roll. If a warrior is much below, or much
above, the chart predictions, he is "hosed" or "blessed". This chart is more of
generic reference than most of the other information.
2. *** HIT POINTS*** HP is calculated as (3.75xCN)+(1.1xSZ)+(0.4xWL). This chart
shows the HP needed for each rating. For example, an 11-10-8-15-17-12-11 warrior
would have(3.75x10)+(1.1X8)+(0.4x17)=53.10HP and his "hit point rating" would be
"cannot lot", meaning cannot take a lot of damage. One raise of CN elevates him
to 56.85 and "normal HP".
3. ***ENDURANCE*** By this chart's definition, endurance equals (WL)x(ST+CN). Using
the warrior mentioned above, endurance is (17)x(11+10) = 357. Based on the chart,
this warrior should have "normal endurance." It is possible to be hosed/blessed
in endurance, which would be the case if this warrior did not have normal. Note:
On a warrior profile sheet, the lack of any comment about endurance, means the
warrior has normal.
4. ***COORDINATION*** Coordination is merely SP + CN. There is no hosing or
blessing. The warrior listed above has 12+11 = 23 or normal coordination.
5. ***ENCUMBRANCE*** is often called "carry." Carry is a non-hosed/blessed attribute
dependent on ST and CN and it indicates how much weight a warrior can carry
without penalizing the endurance. Checking the chart for the above listed warrior
shows 11ST/10CN yields "B" carry, or "cannot carry a lot of weight." Each level
of carry adds 9 points of weight that can be carried. A = 9; B = 18; C = 27, etc.
Items to be carried are armor, helm, and weapon/shields. Check the WEAPON
REQUIREMENT chart to see the weights of weapons and armor. As an example, a
warrior wearing ASM/H, and carrying BS/ME and a backup SH, has the following
weights of 8 + 3 + 4 + 4 + 2 = 19. That amount of carry is more than the 18
indicated for "B carry", hence, the warrior out much quicker than normal.
6. ***HEIGHT*** This is a simple conversion chart showing what heights equate to
what SZ. While the warrior fight summary may list the warrior in ft-in, the D2
program really runs using the SZ number. Size may limit weapons or shields that
may be used without penalty, and as seen above, it impacts certain other
characteristics.
7. ***INTELLIGENCE*** This chart indicates the intelligence statement you will
receive at each numeric WT. In general, only the numeric value is of importance.
8. ***STYLE SUITABILITY*** This is a chart which summarizes which weapons/shields
are suitable, marginal, or unsuitable for which styles.
9. ***WEAPON REQUIREMENTS*** This chart only refers to primary-hand weapons, and it
is a terrific summary of weapon requirement and impact. This chart reveals all of
the following and more:
a. weapon weights
b. ST requirements for a weapon
c. SZ limitations for a weapon
d. WT requirements for all weapons
e. DF requirements for a weapon
f. Weapon impact vs. armor type
g. Kill "ratings" for weapons (Take this rating with a "grain of salt" as it is
not really supported by empirical results, and it appears to say heavy
weapons kill better.)
h. Whether the weapon is a slash, bash, or lunge type weapon.
10. ***BAGMAN 2 SKILL CHART AND STYLE MODIFIERS*** This chart is a doozy! It took
years of data and development, and has become a highly important tool in D2. The
SKILL CHART explains what skills are earned at each stat level. For example: at 5
WL the warrior gets 1 each Attack, Parry, Defense, and Decisiveness skill; at 6
WL, no more skills are earned; but bumping the 7WL again adds one each of those
same four. Note also that SZ does impact skills. A SZ3 warrior gets two each
defense and parry skills and loses two initiatives, while a SZ21 earns 4
initiatives but loses four each defense and parry. This chart is prepared in an
accumulative fashion, showing the total skills at each stat.
Coupled with that chart the STYLE MODIFIER chart shows the "at birth" style
modifications. (All negative or zero. Each style starts with a different base
of skills. Lets take our previously mentioned 11-10-8-15-17-12-11 warrior for
example, and let's say he is a slasher. The skill chart shows 2 each attack and
parry skills at 11 ST; no skills for CN; no sk1lls for SZ; at 15WT 9 initiative,
3 riposte, 7 attack, 7 defense, and 2 decisiveness; 4 each attack, parry and
defense plus 5 decise at 17WL; 3 init, 4 riposte, 2 defense, and 5 decise at
12SP; and at 11DF there are 3 Init, 4 Riposte, and 5 each attack, parry and
defense skills. Add those all together to get a 15Init-11Rip-18Att-11Par-18Def-
12Dec total of skills for that design. Now you must apply the style modifier
chart, and a slasher has as follows:
-2 Init, -4Rip, -8Att, -10Par, -12Def, -2Dec. Putting them both together
yields a slasher who should expect 13 Initiative, 7 Riposte, 10 Attack, 1
Parry, 6 Defense, and 11 Decisiveness as starting skills.
11. ***HIGH WIT STATEMENTS*** These statements apply to those warriors with 8+ WT.
(There are also Low Wit Statements, but that information summary is inaccurate due to
lack of input data.) This list indicates what "statements" should appear on your
"warrior profile" for each of Initiative, Riposte, Attack, Parry, and Defense per
each level of wit. Using our warrior above, as stated, he is expected to start with
13 Initiative skills. He has 15 WT. Examining the chart, under Initiative and
across from 15 WT (which also applies for 16WT, since the next listed level is 17),
the left side (high order) is for 13+base init skills, and the right side (low order
10-12 base init). We determined that he should start with 13, so we should expect
the statement "Nothing short of genius..." If we do get this statement as expected,
we DO have 13+ Initiative skills. (13 min) Hence, we could be bonused with skills
above 13. We would know if we were bonused 3 Init skills, as we would start with an
expert in Initiative. However, if, indeed, we received the other statement "With a
very aggressive...", we would know we started with 10-12 Initiative skills, and were
hence hosed 1 to 3 initiative skills.
Let's try one more example-- for Riposte. Our skill evaluations showed him to
have 7 skills. Looking at the HIGH WIT chart at 15WT, he has fewer skills than the
low order amount of 10-12, so he should expect no riposte statement. If he did get
the low order statement, then he truly has at least 10 riposte skills, so he is
bonused +3 or +4 (4 is max skill hose or bonus.) Evaluating the high wit statements
of all five skill areas (There is none for decisiveness.) will lead to a true and
actual understanding of the starting skill set of any warrior.
WARRIOR SKILL BASE, A REAL LIFE EXAMPLE
Settle down class. Get rid of that gum, Assur, and quit passing notes to Jorja.
Quiet down; quiet down.
Today, using the CIC (I am sure you all have requested and received your copies
from RSI by now.) we will take a real life example to predict and determine starting
skills. This example, coupled with last turn's lecture should put you in a good
position to pass the final. Take good notes, students!
"Chronic Pain" 32-4593 of team Disillusioned was designed from 5-6-18-10-8-10-13
to be a 9-6-18-15-9-10-17 striker. First, we will predict his skill base. Then we
will observe his initial warrior profile. Lastly, we will summarize what we know
about any skill bonuses he might have.
For the purposes of this lecture, we will use the following code: for stats: ST
= strength, CN = con, SZ = size, WT = wit, WL = will, SP = speed, and DF = deftness;
for skills: I = initiative, R = riposte, A = attack, P = parry, F = defense, and D =
decisiveness.
Using the BAGMAN2 SKILL CHART from the CIC, we see that:
9 ST provides 2 A and 2 P
6 CN provides no skills
18 SZ provides 2 I and negative/minus 2 P and 2 F
15 WT provides 9 I, 3 R, 7 A, 7 F, and 2 D
9 WL provides 2 A, 2 P, 2 F, 3 D
10 SP provides 2 I, 3 R, 2 F 4 D
17 DF provides 6 I, 7 R, 8 A, 8 P, 8 F
Totaling this created skills of 17,13,19,10,17,9 (always speak I,R,A,P,F,D in that
order)
Sounds pretty awesome so far! But next we must apply the style modifications,
from the STYLE MODIFIER CHART on the CIC. This warrior is a STRIKER, and the chart
indicates that striker skill mods are -7, -4, -12, -9, -12, -1. (Again, always using
the order, I,R,A,P,F,D.) A different style would have quite different modifiers, all
of which are zero or negative modifiers.
Combining(adding) the skills from BAGMAN2 and STYLE MODIFIER indicates that
Chronic Pain would expect starting skills of 10I ,9R ,7A,1P ,5F ,8D. One note to
this is that on the Terrablood website is a module which allows one to input the stat
numbers and the starting skills and the expected warrior profile is provided. But,
today, we are learning "long hand."
Okay, now, let's check to see if we can predict any wit statements. (Wit
statements, if any, always appear on the warrior profile just below the
intelligence/wit level.) These are key to determining skill bonuses or hoses. Using
the HIGH WIT STATEMENT chart, checking first initiative (I), we see that at 15WT (In
this example, we will always use the 15WT line on each skill because the warrior in
question has 15WT.), and low order, 10-12 skills should provide a "With a very
aggressive and clever fighting skill" statement. Continuing to riposte, we have nine
skills which are lower than the low order requirement of 10, so we should expect no
riposte statement. Our expected 7 attack skills do, however, indicate that we should
get the "Has an unusual fighting style that confuses many opponents" statement. Our
one parry skill will not get us a statement as 6 skills are required to get anything.
And lastly, our 5 defense skills should get us the low order (3-6 base skills
required) defense statement of "avoids blows well." To summarize we expect three wit
statements, one each for I, A, and F.
Using the CIC, we can also predict endurance, punishment level (hit points),
carry, and damage-doing, so let's also do that. Endurance = WLx(ST+CN) = 9x(9+6) =
135, which indicates "very little" on the CIC. Hit points are 3.75CN+(1.1SZ+0.4WL) =
3.75x6 + (1.1x18 + 0.4X9) = 22.5+19.8+3.6 = 45.9 = "Cannot take a lot". Carry (per
the encumbrance chart) for 9ST and 6 CN = "A carry", which is very little or 9 points
carry max. And lastly, damage-doing, per the damage chart, for 9ST and 18SZ = great."
We have concluded our "predictions" or "expectations", and when we get the
warrior profile, we will know what the warrior truly has, and whether or not he is
hosed or bonused anywhere. So let's see what the actual Chronic Pain warrior profile
said.
CHRONIC PAIN
Fights using the STRIKING ATTACK style
Is AMBIDEXTROUS
Is INTELLIGENT
nothing short of a genius at keeping his foes off balance and in trouble
has an unusual fighting style that confuses many opponents
avoids blows well
has POOR ENDURANCE
CANNOT take a LOT of PUNISHMENT
Can only carry a VERY LITTLE WEIGHT in armor and weapons
Does GREAT DAMAGE
STRENGTH = 9
CONSTITUTION = 6
SIZE = 18
WIT = 15
WILL = 9
SPEED = 10
DEFTNESS = 17
So what does this profile tell us about the warrior. First, accept that the
profile is "true." We may have been calculating and predicting from charts and data
before, but what is on the profile is the warrior in fact.
Notice first, the ambidextrous bonus. This is special. Being left or right
handed is merely a statement, but being ambidextrous adds one attack skill to the
warrior's base. Had we known the warrior was going to be ambi, we would have added
one attack skill to our prediction, making his predicted base attack at 8. (But, of
course, we didn't/couldn't.)
The warrior has three statements under wit/intelligence. The first is the
Initiative statement, but not the one we predicted. If you look on the HIGH WIT
chart, you will see that the "nothing short of genius..." is a high order statement,
indicating 13+ Init skills! Great! We predicted 10! He as 13I+. Therefore, he is
bonused +3 or +4. As to riposte, we expected no statement at 9 skills, and he got
none. Hence, we could consider that he is mode, but, in actuality, we only truly
know he has less than 10 R skills since he received no statement. He could, then, be
less than 9. Therefore, we know he is mode to -4 R. (+ or - 4 is the most blessing/
hosing possible.) Moving on to attack, where we expect the low order statement for
7-9 A skills. This is even after we added the one A to our calculated 7 base for the
ambi condition. Surely enough, we received the "has an unusual fighting...." we
expected, so we know this warrior has 7-9 A skills. We expect 8, so he could be from
-1 to +1A. There is no wit statement for parry, nor did we expect one as his
expected 1P is less than the low wit minimum of three. What we know, then, is that
he could have 2P and be +1, or he could have two less than we calculated and be
hosed. (It is probably important to state at this time that, depending on style,
warriors are sometimes limited to which skills can be hosed or bonused. But that is
a lecture for another day.) Last, then comes defense, where our calculated 5F
indicated that we should get the low wit statement of "avoids blows well" and this
warrior did get it. We now know he has 3 to 6 F skills so he could be -2 hosed to +1
bonused. There is no wit statement for decisiveness.
One last offering, you can know even more about your warrior's starting skills
if he were to start with a rating (e.g. expert attack) as you would then know that
your warrior has between 16-19 skills in that category. There are a few very fine
warriors that even start with an Advanced Expert in a skill. (20 skills +)
Let's make a final check of endurance and damage-doing. The charts predicted
very little endurance, and the warrior received poor. He may be slightly bonused.
The warrior received the great damage-doing our charts predicted, so he is probably
mode.
There you have it. Your last example of evaluating the warrior's starting skill
base. Learn it. Have the charts available. You will definitely be tested on this
subject on your final.
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Assur's Guide to Tank Hybrids
Today's subject is one of Assur's favorite type of hybrids. They may not be the best
warriors to grace the sands, but they are a lot of fun. The idea is that you can't
take them down and at some point they will attack back and when they hit, they will
hit hard!
1) Design
Tank Hybrids (hereafter referred to as simply tanks) are hybrids that wear lots
of armor and have lots of hit points. There are lots of variations of this type of
hybrid, but typically they are not depending on anything other than their physical
prowess to win.
Encumbrance and Hit Points are amongst their most important attributes. Skills
are nice, but in some cases almost a forethought. Attack is probably the most useful
skill to have, followed by Parry and Defense.
Endurance, Wit, and Will are all nice to have, but you can create a tank without
any of these. Typically they will have minimum 14 in strength and constitution,
often much more. Historically Assur has made high will versions of tanks, but has
seen others succeed with very low will tanks as well. Usually at least one of speed
or deftness is quite low. Most of Assur's tanks have also been stat trainers, so
some of them have started lower than 14 in strength or constitution.
2) Style Choice
Any style can tank it up, but the higher attack styles work better, simply
because when you do attack, you want to hit. But any style can work. Lungers have
the highest attack base. Aimed Blows with 21 deftness are just below Lungers. Next
is a four way tie between Parry Lungers, Wall of Steels, Bashers, and Slashers.
Parry Strikes, Parry Ripostes, and Strikers are all considered lower attack styles,
but the lowest starting attack style is, of course, the Total Parry (a full 8 attack
skills lower than the same Lunger). Advantages/disadvantages of tanking styles:
Lunger: Highest total skills, but learns are not the best and high endurance burn.
Aimed Blows: High deftness requirements means designs are very limited.
Wall of Steels: High total skills, learns (att/par/ini) are awesome for tanks.
High Endurance burn.
Basher: Learn attack and decise, reasonable endurance burn. A more offensive type
of tank.
Parry Lungers: Similar to Wall of Steels, with slightly worse learning and skills.
Slashers: Similar to Bashers, but don't learn decise as fast and slightly higher
endurance burn.
Parry Strikes: One of the few warrior types where their learns work together
(decise and parry). Conserve endurance very well. The best tanking style of
the lower attack styles.
Strikers: Again similar to bashers, but with fewer attack skills, but better
endurance conservation.
Parry Ripostes: Only 2 attack more than total parries, worse learning, and worse
weapon selection suggests that Total Parries would be a better choice.
Total Parries: Horrible attack, but can use most of the big weapons and the best
defenses in the game makes them a good choice for a more defensive tank.
3) Weapon Selection
Typically you will choose the highest damage weapon you can use for your Tank.
Some nice choices (with relatively low stat requirements) are: Maul (15 Str, 5 Wit,
7 Dft), Broadsword (11 Str, 9 Wit, 7 Dft), Battle Axe (15 Str, 7 Wit, 9 Dft), and
Long Spear (11 Str, 5 Wit, 9 Dft)
Feel free to choose other weapons, even if you lack the requirements to use
them.
4) Strategy and tactics
Tanks are fun to run, because you can really play with their strategies and see
different results. Typically you will run in the upper range of offensive effort
(5+), but in certain minutes, you very well might go more defensive depending on your
tank. As mentioned last turn, some warriors will actually attack more with lower
offensive effort (usually if it is their favorite rhythm). To start, though, play
with 5-10 offensive effort. Activity level can be anything. I have literally run
tanks with 10 activity level in one fight and 1 activity level in the next.
I have used almost every tactic with Tanks. I can't remember using the Riposte
tactic, but no reason you can't try it. And some styles are not well suited to some
tactics.
5) Armor
APA/F is the norm.
+ ]H[ + ---:--- + ]H[ The Lighthouse ]H[ + ---:--- + ]H[ +
I thought I'd say few words today about styles and challenges. You have all
seen--or will see before you leave Noblish Island (it runs on turns numbered ending
in 3), this chart (and I thank Magic Man for making it available):
KEY FOR ODDS OF WINNING:
1 - ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE 6 - BETTER THAN EVEN
2 - HARDLY LIKELY 7 - GOOD CHANCE
3 - NOT MUCH 8 - HIGHLY PROBABLE
4 - SLIGHT CHANCE 9 - MOST DEFINATELY
5 - 50/50 10 - ALMOST GUARANTEED
Reminder: Left Row vs Top Column
BA ST LU SL AB TP PS PL PR WS
BA 5 2 6 6 8 9 7 6 5 6
ST 8 5 8 9 9 6 7 5 6 4
LU 4 4 5 6 10 5 7 7 9 6
SL 4 1 5 5 8 6 8 7 8 9
AB 2 2 2 4 5 10 6 6 6 7
TP 3 4 6 4 1 5 7 8 6 5
PS 3 3 3 4 5 4 5 4 5 4
PL 5 4 3 3 6 2 7 5 7 6
PR 7 5 2 2 4 5 6 3 5 4
WS 5 8 6 2 4 6 7 5 6 5
I consider this chart to be a fertile topic for debate, possibly even
acrimonious debate. There is some truth in it, I don't dispute that. And it is to
this chart, usually, that managers refer when they speak of some warrior having "the
style advantage" over another. But I believe that other factors than style are at
least as important, and perhaps MORE important, such as the relative skill of the two
managers and two warriors involved.
But, as I say, there is some truth in it, especially where the managers and
warriors are on a level of experience. Therefore, information on the styles of other
warriors in a given arena is important, so you can gauge your challenges and avoids
to give you the best chances for winning. This is one of the things alliances do for
their members--provide a forum for exchanging style information. It is also the
reason why experienced managers generally regard it as bad form to reveal a warrior's
style in the personals. [Exceptions to this--when the warrior in question has been a
stylemaster, and when the warrior in question is graduating.] Style information is
valuable; you, or somebody, fought to get it, so it shouldn't be given away.
But there's more to "style knowledge" than simply being able to say, "X has the
style advantage over Y." You have to use your information. Note that "offensive
warriors" are bashers, lungers, strikers, and slashers. Defensive styles are those
with "parry" in their names. Aimed Blows and Walls of Steel are ambiguous and may be
considered--and run--either way.
If you KNOW or even just suspect that you have an offensive warrior who will be
facing a defensive warrior, you can adjust your strategy accordingly. You change
your armor and the speed with which you're running the warrior to pace him for a long
haul, perhaps. (And this is the adjustment that most often needs to be made.)
Or if you've got an offensive warrior facing another offensive, you can do the
same--slow your warrior's pace--and hope to take out your opponent in the second
minute when he's gasping for breath. Of course, you have to survive the first minute
somehow. More armor, perhaps, or defenisve tactics. But it's a fact that,
especially in the lower levels of the game, many offensive warriors DO burn out by
the end of the first minute or shortly thereafter. So if you're paced for that, you
may be surprised at some of the wins you can get.
Jorja
The Middle Way
+<]H[>+-----+<]H[+ Question of the Week #10 +]H[>+-----+<]H[>+
The Question, Aruak City (dm 11), turn 426:
If a warrior is wearing plate and he is hit on the hand or ankle does he get the same
amount of protection? It seems to me the most you could wear on your hand is
Chainmail. -- Hanibal, Q.O.W.
The Answers, turn 427:
Q.O.W. -- I think if you wear armor of chainmail or lighter, the protection to your
limbs is limited, certainly not to a degree equal to the armor you are wearing over
the body. But I think with platemail or full plate, the armor protects your limbs
well. Gauntlets, which I imagine being used with platemail and up, are steel plates,
so they protect better than chain. I think this is played out well in our fighters'
fights. I've seen chain wearing warriors who are tough go down with one shot to the
leg, while the same warrior in platemail takes one or two more hits. You'd be
surprised at how well medieval gauntlets' metal plates flexed for hand movement. --
Adie
QoW -- When using heavy armor, the limbs seem to be less well protected than the
chest and abdomen. I base this observation mainly on the number of ineffective
("bounced") hits seen against the torso compared to the limbs. The lighter armors
don't seem to have this difference. -- Generalissimo Puerco
Hannibal -- Questions! Great, I've missed them. Unfortunately, I can't offer much
help on this. I do know that to rely on "it would logically seem that" is the way to
get into trouble, unfortunately. After all, it would logically seem that a basher
should be well-suited to using the fist, and this is not so. So I can't guess about
the "armor for hands and feet" question. -- Leeta
Hannibal -- Take a good look at a suit of full plate some time. Everything EXCEPT
the head is protected, unless you're wearing a helmet of some sort as well. If
you're going to have warriors wearing APA, you better put them in a Helm or a Full
Helm as well, otherwise you may as well send them out in leather. A hit to an
unarmored head and your APA is worthless. -- Talon, War-Priest of Mantor the Bright
The Question, Aruak City (dm 11), turn 427:
All -- I was looking at a fight a few turns ago with Predator (Broadsword fav). In
min 1 he attacked 12 times w/ BS and only 1 crit. Min 2 six normal attacks, weapons
breaks, pulls his epee and throws three crits in a row. He always threw more crits
using an epee even though he is -6 in Deftness to use it. He used a BS in two other
fights with no crits. This makes me wonder; are favorites generated after your
warrior graduates? -- Hanibal Q.O.W.
The Answers, turn 428:
Q.O.W. -- From my understanding, favorite weapons are generated when your warrior is
created, and the bonuses are applied in basic. However, I have experienced similiar
situations to what you have seen with Predator. I have a lunger who never seemed to
throw a crit with the short spear, but constantly threw crits with the longspear even
though he wasn't quite suited to it in strength or deftness. I felt certain the
longspear was his favorite weapon because of this, and was highly shocked when upon
graduation the shortspear was listed as his weapon of choice. -- the Outsider
Hanibal, Q.O.W. -- From what I have experienced and discussed with other managers,
fighting rhythm, weapon, learns and tactics are determined upon creation. Did you
change rhythms during any of these fights? Was your attack rating high or low at the
time? If all is the same, and you throw more crits with an epee, maybe you should
send your "favorite weapon" to hell and go with what works. After all, the whole
point of finding your fave weapon is to increase your crit percentage. Although, it
would be nice to have BS crits over the EP crits (except for the knockdowns!) -- Dr.
Strange
QoW -- Well, now you're understanding why I don't make too much of an effort to try
to find a warrior's "favorite" weapon. Finding a weapon they win with is much more
important, and Predator certainly had no problem winning. I think people have had
enough cases where a suspected favorite weapon was confirmed to suggest that a
warrior's favorites are determined before AD, but the exceptions such as Predator's
are numerous. I'll bet Adie will have more to say on this matter, since it seems
like it happens to her warriors a lot. -- Generalissimo Puerco
Q.o.W. (Fav Weapons) -- I was the closest thing the KoV had to somebody who found
their favorite weapon in basic. But since I got my advanced master in attack so soon
it's hard to tell. We really haven't noticed our warriors having a favorite weapon
in basic. I personally think there may be something to what you're saying. But I
think most people believe that it's there all along. -- Maxwell Honorblade
Hanibal's Question of the Week -- No, favorites are generated when the warrior is
first created. Unless you get a favorites-prize and use it on a warrior, his
favorites always and forever remain what they were at the time of generation. --
Leeta
Q.O.W -- BS favorite and no crits sounds typical for a lot of warriors. Or GA...or
BA...or even SC. Sometimes, favorite weapons just don't serve. I have a WS in
Primus with GA favorite and Grandmaster Attack who throws more normals than crits
with her favorite. To make matters worse, I have a LU in Primus with Archmaster
Attack who still throws normals...with her favorite and with LO. Some warriors, in
my experience, just don't throw crits like they should. Others will go crazy with
their favorite weapon in basic, right from the start. I've discovered many favorite
weapons that way over the years...then again, I've also THOUGHT I'd discovered
favorite, only to have them be something else. I've always thought that somewhere, a
bit is kept with each warrior for how experienced they are with any given weapon...
and if you use a weapon enough, you get better with it (skills not withstanding). I
can't prove it, but watching some of my LS and SS, SH and MS favorite warriors using
SC and LO, you see improvement over time, even when they aren't getting more attack.
-- Talon Warsmith, Epee favorite <grin>
Hanibal, Q.O.W., favorites are born with the warrior. It's just that sometimes they
seem hard to believe. -- Kennelworth
Q.O.W. -- I've always understood that a warrior's favorite weapon is generated right
at the beginning. I have however, had the similar experience of throwing more crits
with a non-fav weapon. -- Anti
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---===FREE BLADES REGIONAL NEWS===---
Duelmasters
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DM 9 ZUKAL (turn 695): G-STRING of HOT STUFF (Papa Bear, mgr.)
DM 12 RIZTAB (turn 697): XENOPHANES of DREAMERS (Sleepy, mgr.)
DM 13 DULLENS (turn 624): FLOYD CASTAWAY of ARCANE ROYALTY (Destitute Noble, mgr.)
DM 15 MALCORN (turn 691): GOLDEN STAIRS of GREENWARDENS (Jorja, mgr.)
DM 16 WILLAF (turn 693): RIPLEY BYRD of PUNNY AMINALS (Jorja, mgr.)
DM 17 ALJAFIR (turn 684): BOROMIR of IN MIDDLE EARTH (?, mgr.)
DM 19 ZUWAYZA (turn 685): WATER WORKS of MONOPOLY (Sherlock, mgr.)
DM 28 MORYA (turn 345): COLGATE SMILE of MY GENERATION (Storm Lord, mgr.)
DM 29 LAPUR (turn 682): CAPTAIN KIRK of TREKKERS (Deep Thought, mgr.)
DM 31 CHIMLEVTAL (turn 342): XANDAR of AVENGERS (Huckle Cat?, mgr.)
DM 32 ARVAT (turn 679): DEE N. EMMI of DEVIL ADVOCATES (The Dark One, mgr.)
DM 33 NIATOLI ISLAND (turn 676): SHELLBACK of SEA DOGS (One Armed Bandit, mgr.)
DM 35 MURSKA (turn 668): MONKEY MAN of REALLY? (Dr. Grimley, mgr.)
DM 43 VEASTIAN (turn 626): KIRVINJ of THE FAMILY (Jorja, mgr.)
DM 45 STORMCROWE (turn 320): ROSELYN of DARQUE FORCES (Master Darque, mgr.)
DM 47 NORTH FORK (turn 314): SPAWN of FANTASTIC FIVE (?, mgr.)
DM 50 SNOWBOUND (turn 301): 4-H of LIFE IMPACTS (Coach, mgr.)
DM 56 ROCANIS (turn 558): ELISE GOUDGE of MIDDLE WAY 20 (Jorja, mgr.)
DM 60 ARADI (turn 543): ELIN GISSORS of MIDDLE WAY 25 (Jorja, mgr.)
DM 61 JURINE (turn 525): VINDA YARRO of MIDDLE WAY 16 (Jorja, mgr.)
DM 65 DAL SHANG (turn 519): ON THE CORNER of BASH BROS EVANGELIST
(Assurnasirbanipal, mgr.)
DM 73 ERINIKA (turn 250): BOOB of PALINDROMES (Assurnasirbanipal, mgr.)
DM 74 DAYLA KIV (turn 480): NEGATIVE ONE of NUMB-ERS (Sherlock, mgr.)
DM 75 JADE MOUNTAIN (turn 475): INCREDIBLE SPEED of CRITICALS (Howlin' Wolf, mgr)
DM 78 LIN TIRIAN (turn 466): CALEAM CHOWDER of SHEWISH BUFFET (One Armed Bandit)
ADM 103 FREE BLADES (turn 583): NIGHTCAP of DARKLINGS (She-Puppy, mgr.)
Top Teams
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DM 9 ZUKAL (turn 695): BLUE MOON (Jorja, mgr.)
DM 12 RIZTAB (turn 697): BLUE NOTE (Howlin' Wolf, mgr.)
DM 13 DULLENS (turn 624): CARDOW HUNTERS (Jorja, mgr.)
DM 15 MALCORN (turn 691): GREENWARDENS (Jorja, mgr.)
DM 16 WILLAF (turn 694): GOLDEN GLADIATORS (Midas, mgr.)
DM 17 ALJAFIR (turn 684): 82ND ILLINOIS (Otto X, mgr.)
DM 19 ZUWAYZA (turn 685): MONOPOLY (Sherlock, mgr.)
DM 28 MORYA (turn 345): PHANTACITY (Omega, mgr.)
DM 29 LAPUR (turn 682): STREET WALKERS (Roadkill, mgr.)
DM 31 CHIMLEVTAL (turn 342): AVENGERS (Huckle Cat?, mgr.)
DM 32 ARVAT (turn 679): DEVIL ADVOCATES (The Dark One, mgr.)
DM 33 NIATOLI ISLAND (turn 676): THE SEWING CIRCLE (Jorja, mgr.)
DM 35 MURSKA (turn 668): REALLY? (Dr. Grimley, mgr.)
DM 43 VEASTIAN (turn 626): THE FAMILY (Jorja, mgr.)
DM 45 STORMCROWE (turn 320): DARQUE FORCES (Master Darque, mgr.)
DM 47 NORTH FORK (turn 314): OBSIDIAN ORDER (Skaven, mgr.)
DM 50 SNOWBOUND (turn 301): LIFE IMPACTS (Smitty, mgr.)
DM 56 ROCANIS (turn 558): MIDDLE WAY 20 (Jorja, mgr.)
DM 60 ARADI (turn 543): RED DOG GANG (Spot, mgr.)
DM 61 JURINE (turn 525): STAR WARS (Sir Jessie Jest, mgr.)
DM 65 DAL SHANG (turn 519): SAND DANCERS (Jorja, mgr.)
DM 73 ERINIKA (turn 250): MIDDLE WAY 18 (Jorja, mgr.)
DM 74 DAYLA KIV (turn 480): SAND DANCERS (Jorja, mgr.)
DM 75 JADE MOUNTAIN (turn 475): SAND DANCERS (Jorja, mgr.)
DM 78 LIN TIRIAN (turn 466): SAND DANCERS (Jorja, mgr.)
ADM 103 FREE BLADES (turn 583): TOURNEY TEAM (LHI, mgr.)
Recent Graduates
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DM 9 ZUKAL (turn 694): TIGHT BLOUSE of HOT STUFF (Papa Bear, mgr.)
DM 12 RIZTAB (turn 697): XENOPHANES of DREAMERS (Sleepy, mgr.)
KUNG PO FROG of KAOS FROGS (Grimm, mgr.)
DM 15 MALCORN (turn 690): HONEYSUCKLE of GREENWARDENS (Jorja, mgr.)
DM 17 ALJAFIR (turn 683): ZOMBIE of ZOMBIE SQUAD 2 (Khisanth, mgr.)
DM 29 LAPUR (turn 682): MISS CONDUCT of STREET WALKERS (Roadkill, mgr.)
(turn 681): CASIMIR PULASKI of BOHICA (Scruffy Puff, mgr.)
DM 31 CHIMLEVTAL (turn 340): OMBERT QURL of MIDDLE WAY 7 (Jorja, mgr.)
DM 32 ARVAT (turn 679): DEE N. EMMI of DEVIL ADVOCATES (The Dark One, mgr.)
TIA MATTE of DEVIL ADVOCATES (The Dark One, mgr.)
S.W.A.T. of SECRET SQUIRRELS (Gentleben, mgr.)
(turn 678): ABSOLUTION of ANGELS OF PAIN (The Dark One, mgr.)
DM 56 ROCANIS (turn 557): LEEYLAYLA NORIN of MIDDLE WAY 20 (Jorja, mgr.)
DM 65 DAL SHANG (turn 519): ON THE CORNER of BASH BROS EVANGELIST
(Assurnasirbanipal, mgr.)
(turn 518): IN YOUR FACE of BASH BROS EVANGELIST
(Assurnasirbanipal, mgr.)
KORDAL T'ROHN of SAND DANCERS (Jorja, mgr.)
DM 73 ERINIKA (turn 249): PANAMA OATES of MIDDLE WAY 18 (Jorja, mgr.)
DM 75 JADE MOUNTAIN (turn 474): LEAPS INTO THE AIR of CRITICALS (Howlin' Wolf, mgr)
DUELMASTER'S COLUMN
Notes from the arena champ.
Duelmaster! Finally! I showed those Bash Bros Things which team should be on
the throne. Yes! Gooooo Favorite Games!
A Duelmaster is allowed and expected to write a DM Column. Oh, yeah? Just what
is one supposed to write in one's column? (Hearing a voice sounding like Jorja in
the background saying "anything!".)
Okay, I shall write about something close to my heart. My faves! I like Women,
games, golf, American Idol and Dancing With The Stars, meat loaf, spaghetti, reading,
grandkids, The Olympics, The Rider Cup and The Solheim Cup, The Road To The Final
Four, The Clemson Tigers, The Kansas Jayhawks, The Evansville Purple Aces, The
Cannelton Bulldogs, and my 89 year old Mom. I probably forgot something, but that's
enough writing.
Challenge me. Come and get me. But watch out! I own ParkPlace and Boardwalk
and they are loaded!
Monopoly, Duelmaster
SPY REPORT
Much has changed in NOBLISH ISLAND since last I was here. Never fear, Olaf
Modeen adapts to many situations, as do all successful fighters. Biff! Pow!
NOBLISH ISLAND watched with glee as FAVORITE GAMES got knocked off top spot by BRIDGE
BURNERS! Up 'n down. Up 'n down. Rankings always change. Up 'n down. I think I'm
gonna be... Well, BRIDGE BURNERS' 1st moved them up to 5-0-0 place. Some people say
I ramble too much, I don't say anything relevant. I repeat myself. I ramble. Well
BASH BROS TELEPHONE moved up 0, to 4th. What's with CHELSEA NOREN? She actually
beat FAVORITE GAMES' CONTRACT BRIDGE, and walked away with 26 more points from the
fight. Laughs were big at LOW ROAD 3 while they watched CHELSEA NOREN clobber
CONTRACT BRIDGE. It lost 23 points and got bruised from objects thrown from the
stands. NOBLISH ISLAND, set your sights on VENEMOUS CONCUBINE. He'll be happy to
entertain all requests after defeating MONOPOLY. BUSY looked pretty Duelmasterlike
as he took NOBLISH ISLAND's top spot with 84 points. Now, what will MONOPOLY do?
Wouldn't it be nice to have live subjects to practice on? I hear some team is
looking into the uses of convicted prisoners.
No matter the time or place, men will always duel. The most avoided team was
BASH BROS TELEPHONE. The bums at FAVORITE GAMES couldn't face the challenges from
BASH BROS TELEPHONE! No excuse for that! What do people see in BELTRAN MOSS? His
4-4-1? LOW ROAD 3 ain't talkin', but he's got 17 points.
Warriors of NOBLISH ISLAND unite. You have only your games to lose! BELTRAN
MOSS larned his lesson (SORRY taught it well), and we right likely won't be seein'
'im fight any BRIDGE BURNERS members with the same gusto. How long have I been here?
I got people to see, places to go...
Many other cities have retirement homes for aged warriors. Any plans here? Are
you as tired of reading this as I am of writing it? Actually, I guess I'm writing it
before you read it. Oh, well. Time for my medication, so I'll leave now. Practice,
practice, practice!-- Olaf Modeen
DUELMASTER W L K POINTS TEAM NAME
BUSY 9223 7 2 0 84 BASH BROS TELEPHONE (1588)
CHAMPIONS W L K POINTS TEAM NAME
MONOPOLY 9217 7 2 0 75 FAVORITE GAMES (1587)
CAREERS 9216 7 2 0 68 FAVORITE GAMES (1587)
CHALLENGER ADEPTS W L K POINTS TEAM NAME
DUTIFUL 9237 5 0 2 58 THE FARSEERS (1591)
ADEPTS W L K POINTS TEAM NAME
CHELSEA NOREN 9228 5 3 0 50 LOW ROAD 3 (1589)
ALLANA LORIMER 9230 7 1 1 44 LOW ROAD 3 (1589)
-CORSAIR 7244 0 1 0 41 KISS OF DEATH (1249)
NOT IN SERVICE 9225 6 3 0 36 BASH BROS TELEPHONE (1588)
CHALLENGER INITIATES W L K POINTS TEAM NAME
POKER 9219 5 4 0 33 FAVORITE GAMES (1587)
ERBIN PARNAN 9226 5 3 0 30 LOW ROAD 3 (1589)
DROPPED CALL 9224 4 5 0 30 BASH BROS TELEPHONE (1588)
-BAUS 9246 3 0 0 30 CRIT-GIVERS (1593)
SORRY 9243 2 3 0 30 BRIDGE BURNERS (1592)
CONTRACT BRIDGE 9218 6 3 0 29 FAVORITE GAMES (1587)
STATIC 9222 5 4 0 29 BASH BROS TELEPHONE (1588)
CANNOT HEAR 9221 6 3 0 25 BASH BROS TELEPHONE (1588)
INITIATES W L K POINTS TEAM NAME
PICKER 9244 3 1 1 23 BRIDGE BURNERS (1592)
CHADE 9238 2 3 0 23 THE FARSEERS (1591)
CHESS 9220 6 3 0 21 FAVORITE GAMES (1587)
STORMY 9242 3 2 1 21 BRIDGE BURNERS (1592)
-AFRODYKIE 9247 2 1 0 19 CRIT-GIVERS (1593)
BELTRAN MOSS 9229 4 4 1 17 LOW ROAD 3 (1589)
THE FOOL 9236 3 2 0 16 THE FARSEERS (1591)
KEN DO 9274 2 0 0 16 KNIGHT LIFE (1597)
KALAM 9271 2 0 1 15 BRIDGE BURNERS (1592)
DELISE ORM 9227 3 5 0 14 LOW ROAD 3 (1589)
SYRA SHORTER 9303 2 0 0 14 OLIVA GALVARIUS (1586)
FRAU FORALYSE 9297 1 0 0 13 DIE TODESBLUMEN (1602)
TRUTTS 9245 1 4 0 12 BRIDGE BURNERS (1592)
MAC D 9304 1 0 1 11 BLOODY VIXENS (1595)
EHLONNA GODKISSED 9293 1 0 0 11 THE HERQULOIDS (1601)
-POINTY END OUT 9302 1 0 0 11 CRIT-GIVERS (1593)
FRAU LYDESSIA 9299 1 0 0 11 DIE TODESBLUMEN (1602)
MISHA OGLONDORA 9259 0 2 0 11 OLIVA GALVARIUS (1586)
FRAU KYRIENA 9298 1 0 0 10 DIE TODESBLUMEN (1602)
FITZCHIVALRY 9239 2 3 0 9 THE FARSEERS (1591)
-SEQUOIA 9249 2 1 0 9 CRIT-GIVERS (1593)
UGHH 9292 1 0 0 8 THE HERQULOIDS (1601)
BARBRA JEAN 9273 2 0 0 6 KNIGHT LIFE (1597)
-HARDY 9250 1 2 0 5 CRIT-GIVERS (1593)
MA'TEE 9263 1 2 0 5 BLOODY VIXENS (1595)
DUMB BULL 8644 1 1 0 4 DRAGONS (1491)
HARSHNAG THE GRIM 8875 0 4 0 4 DRAGONS (1491)
SULL 9294 0 1 0 3 THE HERQULOIDS (1601)
STAR GIRL 8640 0 3 0 3 DRAGONS (1491)
-TWINKLES 9262 0 2 0 2 BLOODY VIXENS (1595)
MINDY V 9276 0 2 0 2 KNIGHT LIFE (1597)
BEAST 9272 0 2 0 2 KNIGHT LIFE (1597)
-HONEY BEE 9264 0 2 0 2 BLOODY VIXENS (1595)
-MI MI 9261 0 2 0 2 BLOODY VIXENS (1595)
FRAU ELYSE 9300 0 1 0 1 DIE TODESBLUMEN (1602)
FRAU SOLRAIA 9301 0 1 0 1 DIE TODESBLUMEN (1602)
INITIATES W L K POINTS TEAM NAME
KONANN CEE 9296 0 1 0 1 THE HERQULOIDS (1601)
SHREWD 9306 0 1 0 1 THE FARSEERS (1591)
'-' denotes a warrior who did not fight this turn.
THE DEAD W L K TEAM NAME SLAIN BY TURN Revenge?
GLITTER 9265 1 1 1 BLOODY VIXENS 1595 STORMY 9242 349
KALAM 9241 0 2 0 BRIDGE BURNERS 1592 BELTRAN MOSS 9229 347 JUST REVENGED
VISTAFIN 9248 1 1 0 CRIT-GIVERS 1593 PICKER 9244 348
DEEJAY GEE 9275 0 1 0 KNIGHT LIFE 1597 KALAM 9271 349
ELIN TOECHU 9208 6 1 1 OLIVA GALVARIUS 1586 DUTIFUL 9237 348
MAXOR STEELSTRIK 9295 0 1 0 THE HERQULOIDS 1601 MAC D 9304 350
PERSONAL ADS
Stormy -- I'm never gonna rest 'til one of us rests... in pieces. You killed my
girl... You must pay. -- Mac D, mgr/warrior Bloody Vixens, aka the Avenger
All -- Excuse us this week... We have to bury a sister... Next week, though, people
will pay! -- Mi Mi, Ma'Tee, Honey Bee, Twinkles; the Bloody Vixens
Gamemaster -- Wow, nice training! Fave Games seems to be the team to watch. -- Uncle
D, mgr. Knight Life
Pointy End Out -- It seems to me, I was caught unprepared. Next time I will be
ready. -- Beast
All -- Haha! To all who believe they are safe from my blade, think twice! Blink
once and the fight is over! -- Ken Do
All -- This sand box is fun. Does anyone want to play! :) -- Barbra Jean
Sequoia -- I bow before your "strength," may you bow to me one day. -- Mindy V
All Managers -- My first time as a manager and I'm 2-3-0. You say not bad, I say too
bad. I hope you will forgive any bad choices I make and offer some insight. -- Uncle
D
All -- Shhh! I'm coming... -- Cy Lent
Gamemaster -- Eight awards! That's absurd! Leave some for us beginners! -- Sin
Rowynstar
Barbra Jean -- A PR vs a TP? That fight was destined to be boring. I hope to have
better luck next time! -- Misha
Hardy -- Well, you can take some damage, but that doesn't guarantee a win! I guess
being SHORTER really can help! -- Syra Shorter
Delise Orm -- You're not *that* good! -- Sih Rowynstar
Rouhkor -- Yup, Sequoia learned two init skills. I've only been in the Duel 2 world
for a couple months and it got me at first, too. And, good fighting so far. -- Sih
Rowynstar, mgr. Olivia Galvanius
Bloody Vixens -- Maybe your girls and my girls could get together and figure out who
is the real GIRL POWER on the island?! -- Sin Rowynstar
Dutiful -- Don't run from me! -- Sin Rowynstar
Jorja -- If Dutiful killed Elin and then doesn't fight for the next four turns, is it
held against me? -- Sih
By the computer, no. By the other managers, yes.
Olivia Galarius -- One tomb filled for each of us now, hopefully the digging is over.
Thanks for the shovel. -- Dutiful
Afrodykie -- That was a real hit in the jaw. Two, even. -- Chade
Not in Service -- Hopefully every hit does not inflict as much damage. --
Fitzchivalry
Cannot Hear -- I go Frantic over your lack of endurance. -- The Fool
Questions:
-- How do we determine which arena to go to after our team becomes Chartered?
-- Can anyone share some challenge and avoid strategies to help me make better
choices? How to optimize my wins and gains through this system?
-- What is the Duelmasters Sponsor Program?
-- I would like to know if I calculated the skills correctly for a 11-6-12-17-17-10-
11 striker. This is what I came up with on the Bagman2 chart: Att 7, Par 2, Ini
8, Rip 7, Def 7, Dec 11. Unfortunately, this ST died in one hit, but I just want
to know if I used the chart properly. Thanks.
-- Why would my highest WT warrior have the least skill gains? So far he has
received three skills in four fights and has never trained stats.
-- Are there other charts besides the C/C and Bagman2 lists? If so, would someone
please send them to me since I do not have access to e-mail?
Monopoly -- Congratulations. You finally got your title shot and made the best of
it. I tried, but could not overcome. -- Busy
Afrodykie -- I guess you didn't like getting cut off... -- Dropped Call
Twinkles/Mi Mi -- Tough match ups, yours with 1 fight of experience against mine with
7 fights of experience. -- Assur (manager of Static and Cannot Hear)
Ravinkor -- Yes, every line means you learn an additional skill, so in your example,
you learned two initiative skills. You can also gain expert, advanced expert,
master, or higher ratings, but that is simply a marker for how many total skills you
have to that point. -- Assur
My brief analysis of what each skill does:
Attack -- How well you attack and are likely to hit your opponent (and includes
slipping past parries)
Parry -- How well you parry and are likely to parry an opponent's attack
Defense -- How well you dodge and are likely to dodge an opponent's attack
<Note that Dodge and Parry work together>
Initiative -- How much you try to keep control of the fight and maintain the
offensive.
Riposte -- How likely you are to attempt to steal initiative from your opponent.
Riposte can be seen in messages after a parry or dodge that will read something
similar to "Warrior disengages his foe's weapon arm and tries to steal the
initiative!"
Decisiveness -- Mostly has to do with first strike
All are affected by other things besides your skils, but that is a brief description
of what each skill does.
Sin Rowynstar. Answers for you
1) Kill Desire. 10 Kill Desire will make it more likely to kill, but absolutely does
not ensure a kill. In fact, it is rare for a team to maintain a kill ratio of
more than 15% (where 15% of the team's wins result in kills). Note that 1-2 and
9-10 kill desire do odd things to a warrior in a fight and most managers stay
within the 3-8 range, simply because their warriors tend to fight better overall.
2) You cannot train past 21 until you reach Advanced Duelmasters. It typically takes
a year or more for a warrior to reach Immortality and Advanced Duelmasters. One
note about training stats: You have the potential to 'burn' skills. Until you
better understand why and when to burn skills, focus on skill training. The
'normal' requirements to reach Advanced Duelmasters are:
14 arena wins, 20 arena fights, 3 ratings in skills (where advanced expert or higher
counts for 2 ratings) appropriate to your style, and 17 PP's (You get 2 PP's for each
turn in the Challenger Champion class and 5 PP's for each turn as Duelmaster)
3) Assur normally trains almost entirely skills during a warrior's early career.
There are notable exceptions listed below. Assur also VERY rarely does 3rd trains
in one statistic before Advanced Duelmasters. The only times in memory that Assur
has done 4th trains is by accident. One or two trains is about as much as you'll
get on a single statistic
A) Often will do 1-2 trains in Strength or Constitution to improve physicals
B) Intentionally burning skills. Design a warrior who intends to train stats and
get skills fast.
4) Absolutely. There are some 'superior' weapons that are good regardless of whether
it is your favorite or not. For speed (WH, SS, HA, QS). For Damage (BS, BA, SC)
Knockdowns (LO, LS). For riposte (EP). In general, except for the couple listed
here the blunt/pure bashing weapons are inferior. On the other side, I just
changed a weapon on a warrior and he made 5 critical attacks in 8 total attacks.
That is what a favorite weapon can do for you
5) Death in general can very much suck. Bloodfeuds can allow for huge mismatches.
6) I'm short on time this week, so give a better idea of what you mean by friendly?
"Easier for new players?" "Managers who aren't bloodthirsty, trying to kill?"
"Arenas that won't take advantage of newer players?" Something else?
Some arenas that I do recommend:
DM 47 -- One of the most competitive arenas around. Going to be a tough place with
the Turf War coming soon.
DM 21 -- A Delarquan arena with very good participation.
DM 32 -- This may be what you are looking for in terms of friendly.
Most of the slow arenas. Lots of mixed bags, but some great players hang out more in
slow arenas than fast arenas, players who definitely would be 'friendly.' Realize
that no manager is going to hand out wins, but there is a big difference in
challenging you to get easy wins and letting you learn the game on your own,
letting you make the challenges
Arenas that I absolutely recommend staying away from:
DM 18 -- A brutal arena, with mostly tourney teams and very experienced managers.
Don't be deceived by its apparent small size.
DM 1 -- Similar to DM 18
DM 81 -- This is a no-tourney arena. Historically known for managers looking for
easy wins and I suspect many would ignore that you are a new player and 'pick' on
you.
Mac D. -- Good spotlight, keep it up. -- Jorja
Ravinkor -- Yep, two skills learned. As to exact significance and how it might be
used in setting up strategies, beats me. I hope that either Gamemaster or Assur can
answer that one? -- Jorja
Sir Rowynstar -- Answers:
1. No. But it goes a long way to ensuring that he will continue attacking
madly through the whole fight, or at least through the minute in which his KD is 10.
2. No, and it isn't possible. Until your warrior graduates into the Advanced
level of the game, no stat can be increased beyond 21.
3. Depends on the stat and the warrior and your intentions for said warrior.
Some managers never train stats until their warriors have maxed in skills, which
usually happens after they graduate into Advanced, and sometimes long after. Others,
who are not much concerned with Advanced play, train skills freely in this basic
level of the game. Most do it occasionally. I do it sometimes, if one of the
critical stats is lower than I can tolerate (for example, a single digit in WT or ST,
or a CN that seems likely to get the warrior killed early). As to how many times I
would train a given stat, it depends on how fast he reaches the goal I have in my
mind. Seldom more than twice, though. As to how many different stats I might train
on a given warrior in basic, usually only one, though, again, some managers may train
several.
4. Yes. I don't really care what the Commission decides is a particular
warrior's "favorite." I've never seen a clearly positive result of all the testing
and careful analysis some managers do in attempting to deduce the favorite weapon.
There may BE one, but I've never noticed it. If the warrior is doing well with a
weapon, I don't go changing it around.
5. Yes. This is the best argument against wanton killing in the first place.
6. Ah! This is a question FULL of possibilities! Avoiding extremes of size
both large and small, running down the list in numerical order, I would suggest
(arenas are regular speed, two-week turnaround, unless stated otherwise): dm 11
Aruak City, Andorian (no down-challenging), fairly chatty. (Note that one definition
of "fairly chatty" means both Jorja and one of Gamemaster's avatars are active there;
all the ones I will list here are fairly chatty....) Dm 16 Willaf, Free Blades. Dm
28 Morya, slow, Free Blades. Dm 29 Lapur, Free Blades. Dm 30 Iaye, Andorian. Dm 50
Snowbound, Free Blades, slow. Dm 52 Fratsfa, Andorian, slow. Dm 59 Illis,
Delarquan, slow.
A Lord Protector is a warrior who has graduated from these, the Basic games and moved
on to Advanced dueling. Lord Protectors are immortal, they can be killed, but
resurrect automatically. To become such, you need twenty regular-arena fights (as
in, not tourney fights, although tourney fights do count in a little), fourteen
regular-arena wins, seventeen political points (two from a turn in the Challenger
Champs, five from a turn as Duelmaster), and some debatable number of skills. There
are what appear to be exceptions out there, but when you pursue the data far enough,
it generally makes sense. Some favored warriors go the minute they have the
necessary fights and wins (the skills and points having been acquired along the way).
I had one, I think he may be the record, who went on achieving his fourteenth win...
and something like one hundred eight losses! -- Jorja
P.S. Although he probably wouldn't have made it past a hundred fights these days;
the Commission would have decided he was a tourney sandbagger and pulled him to the
Isle anyway. I had another, after that first one, who was hauled out at 8-92.
Sorry -- I was, you know. -- Beltran Moss
Poker -- Oh, it's you. Bah. -- Delise Orm, not a fan of poker
A standby. How tedious. There is a lot most standbys could do to improve
themselves, but it's pointless to tell them. -- Allana Lorimer
Not in Service -- Perhaps a blessed state. -- Chelsea Noren, ready to retire but not
gonna
Trutts -- A bad match for you in terms of experience. That's more armor than Jorja
would advise for one of your style, and DEFINITELY drop the off-hand weapon. Yes, I
know, you DID use it, but maybe if it hadn't been slowing you down, the fight
wouldn't have gone to the second minute, or you'd have hit more with your primary
weapon, or SOMETHING. Try it, anyway. Reading over the fight again, my GUESS is
that most of your problem was the difference in experience and too much encumbrance
in the way of armor and weapons. -- Erbin Parnan
P.S. The best way to avoid bad random matches is to use your challenges and avoids.
LAST WEEK'S FIGHTS
BEAST was devastated by KALAM in a 1 minute mismatched Bloodfeud fight.
SORRY vanquished BELTRAN MOSS in a 1 minute uneven Bloodfeud battle.
MISHA OGLONDORA was subdued by DUTIFUL in a 2 minute beginner's Bloodfeud fight.
CAREERS was unbelievably bested by BUSY in a 2 minute Challenge Title fight.
CHADE was defeated by NOT IN SERVICE in a 2 minute Challenge match.
POKER was bested by ALLANA LORIMER in a 2 minute Challenge brawl.
FITZCHIVALRY was vanquished by STATIC in a 1 minute mismatched Challenge fight.
MA'TEE was savagely defeated by TRUTTS in a 2 minute amateur's Challenge brawl.
MONOPOLY was vanquished by VENEMOUS CONCUBINE in a 1 minute uneven duel.
CONTRACT BRIDGE was vanquished by CHELSEA NOREN in a 1 minute uneven fight.
THE FOOL was viciously subdued by ERBIN PARNAN in a popular 2 minute brutal fight.
CHESS was viciously subdued by DROPPED CALL in a popular 4 minute brutal bout.
DELISE ORM was subdued by CANNOT HEAR in a 1 minute competition.
HARSHNAG THE GRIM was overcome by KEN DO in a exciting 1 minute novice's contest.
DUMB BULL was viciously subdued by FRAU KYRIENA in a 3 minute bloody amateur's bout.
STAR GIRL was savagely defeated by SYRA SHORTER in a 2 minute novice's duel.
STORMY unbelievably bested SULL in a crowd pleasing 4 minute amateur's bout.
PICKER devastated KONANN CEE in a 1 minute one-sided fight.
BARBRA JEAN luckily beat FRAU SOLRAIA in a tiresome 7 minute novice's bout.
MINDY V was overpowered by FRAU LYDESSIA in a 3 minute bloody mismatched conflict.
EHLONNA GODKISSED overpowered FRAU ELYSE in a 3 minute uneven fight.
MAXOR STEELSTRIKE was murdered by MAC D in a 1 minute uneven bout.
FRAU FORALYSE vanquished CONVICTED THIEF in a 1 minute mismatched fray.
UGHH narrowly defeated SHREWD in a popular 5 minute novice's match.
BATTLE REPORT
MOST POPULAR RECORD DURING THE LAST 10 TURNS
|FIGHTING STYLE FIGHTS FIGHTING STYLE W - L - K PERCENT|
|BASHING ATTACK 12 PARRY-STRIKE 4 - 2 - 2 67 |
|STRIKING ATTACK 8 STRIKING ATTACK 32 - 19 - 4 63 |
|SLASHING ATTACK 6 WALL OF STEEL 13 - 9 - 0 59 |
|AIMED BLOW 4 SLASHING ATTACK 20 - 14 - 1 59 |
|PARRY-RIPOSTE 4 AIMED BLOW 17 - 16 - 0 52 |
|TOTAL PARRY 4 BASHING ATTACK 38 - 39 - 3 49 |
|LUNGING ATTACK 4 TOTAL PARRY 12 - 13 - 0 48 |
|WALL OF STEEL 3 LUNGING ATTACK 10 - 11 - 1 48 |
|PARRY-STRIKE 1 PARRY-RIPOSTE 2 - 5 - 0 29 |
|PARRY-LUNGE 0 PARRY-LUNGE 0 - 0 - 0 0 |
Turn 350 was great if you Not so great if you used The fighting styles of the
used the fighting styles: the fighting styles: top eleven warriors are:
PARRY-STRIKE 1 - 0 TOTAL PARRY 1 - 3 3 STRIKING ATTACK
SLASHING ATTACK 4 - 2 PARRY-LUNGE 0 - 0 2 WALL OF STEEL
WALL OF STEEL 2 - 1 LUNGING ATTACK 0 - 4 2 LUNGING ATTACK
STRIKING ATTACK 5 - 3 2 BASHING ATTACK
AIMED BLOW 2 - 2 1 AIMED BLOW
PARRY-RIPOSTE 2 - 2 1 SLASHING ATTACK
BASHING ATTACK 6 - 6
TOP WARRIOR OF EACH STYLE
FIGHTING STYLE WARRIOR W L K PNTS TEAM NAME
AIMED BLOW BUSY 9223 7 2 0 84 BASH BROS TELEPHONE (1588)
SLASHING ATTACK MONOPOLY 9217 7 2 0 75 FAVORITE GAMES (1587)
STRIKING ATTACK CAREERS 9216 7 2 0 68 FAVORITE GAMES (1587)
WALL OF STEEL CHELSEA NOREN 9228 5 3 0 50 LOW ROAD 3 (1589)
Note: Warriors have a winning record and are an Adept or Above.
The overall popularity leader is CONTRACT BRIDGE 9218. The most popular warrior this
turn was UGHH 9292. The ten other most popular fighters were DROPPED CALL 9224, SYRA
SHORTER 9303, DUTIFUL 9237, TRUTTS 9245, ERBIN PARNAN 9226, SULL 9294, STAR GIRL
8640, EHLONNA GODKISSED 9293, MINDY V 9276, and CAREERS 9216.
The least popular fighter this week was BARBRA JEAN 9273. The other ten least
popular fighters were SHREWD 9306, DUMB BULL 8644, CHESS 9220, MAXOR STEELSTRIKE
9295, FRAU SOLRAIA 9301, KONANN CEE 9296, FRAU KYRIENA 9298, DELISE ORM 9227,
MONOPOLY 9217, and FITZCHIVALRY 9239.
MAIL-IN TOURNEY LIII
INITIATES TOURNEY W L K TEAM NAME
ELIN TOECHU 9208 (6-0-1) 3 3 0 OLIVA GALVARIUS
FAXING IN TURNS
If you fax in your Duelmasters turns, realize that most fax machines have a
border on the right and left side of the paper where no image is transmitted or
printed. When you put your strategy sheet in the fax machine, make sure you allow
extra room on the right side, especially if you are challenging that turn. When the
ID# of the warrior you are challenging is cut off, we are unable to enter the
challenges. There are four possible solutions to this problem:
1) Load the strategies farther to the left, so the Duelmasters dude is cut off,
rather than your challenges,
2) Write the ID# of the warrior you're challenging in the space for the name,
3) Load the strategies long-wise (but then you have to be careful about
overlapping the sheets, which can also cut off the ID#s), or
4) Face the fact that you won't get all of your challenges through.
We'd prefer solutions 1-3, but it's your choice.
Also, please be careful that your fax machine isn't transmitting too darkly or
lightly. If you write your turn in pencil, some fax machines will transmit the
pencil so lightly we can't read it when it gets here. If your fax machine can make
copies, it's a good idea to try making a copy first to make sure it's readable, adjust
the darkness if you need to, and then fax it to us. Be especially wary of the
Advanced Duelmasters Strategy Sheets, because if your fax machine sends the grey
shading too darkly, we won't be able to read those lines at all.
Good luck!
-- Green Eyes
STRENGTH AND WEAPON DAMAGE
by Pagan
Weapon damage is equated to Strength + damage class. Damage Class is
categorized by Size. So damage seems to be done like this:
1. Armor weight + 12 + any bonus it has vs weapon type is a negative to the
damage done.
2. Damage done is strength + damage class variable + weapon variable.
3. Slashing, Bashing, & Lunging increase the damage done.
4. When the damage done equals 1 or less then there is a weapon bounce
statement. The minimum damage a blow can do, if it does not bounce, is 1 point of
damage. The program knows there's a hit before it knows damage, so it can't reverse
a hit, you merely take one point of damage because the weapon bounced off the armor.
5. The lower your strength, the more bounces you will see. The lower your
damage class, the more bounces you will see. The lighter weight a weapon is vs the
armor it's hitting, the more bounces you will see.
6. In reverse to #5, all of those secondary-damage statements (often referred
to as extra-damage statements), such as "it was a devastating blow"... "what a
massive blow" -- these merely show that you hit your opponent with enough damage to
exceed the computer secondary-damage statement threshold. Your warrior caused enough
damage to exceed a programmed set number (whatever that number may be) and the fight
is only showing that you exceeded that number. The programmed number for the
secondary-damage threshold is a hard number: it is constant within the program and is
used for all fights and all warriors. It is not random, simply because it cannot be
random and keep any consistency with the Damage-Classes. It has nothing to do with
how much damage you did in relation to your opponent's hit-points, either. If you
exceed that hard number in damage, you get a printed statement showing that to be the
case. There is no such thing as Extra Damage.
Pagan
TEAM AND CHARACTER MAINTENANCE SERVICE
As a service to all managers, we offer team and character maintenance. This
option allows you to make sure your team or selected warriors will never miss a turn!
Team Maintenance: This will cause all warriors on that team to fight every
turn; if it's an AD arena, any new warriors who arrive on that team will
fight the turn they arrive. In A.D. or in transfer arenas where you have
multiple teams, each team will need to separately be on Team Maintenance.
(The only exception is new warriors; they will not fight until they have had
their initial strategy input.)
Character Maintenance: This will cause only that warrior to fight every
turn. If the character graduates or changes arenas, he/she/it will stay on
Character Maintenance.
In either case, you may submit strategy sheets for your warriors each turn, if
you wish. The Team/Character Maintenance will make sure your warriors fight each
turn, and they will always use their most recently entered strategy.
Remember that challenges, avoids, and challenge/if challenged strategies will not
carry through from turn to turn. These sections are only used on the turn they are
entered. In order to continually challenge or avoid you will need to submit a
strategy sheet each time.
One other thing to remember about maintenance: Maintenance is not something
that you write on your turnsheet (like in demo tourneys). In order to add or remove
maintenance for a team or warrior, you must send a note to Customer Service. If you
just write things like this on your strategy sheet, they may or may not get done.
Likewise, don't write it on your personal ads. Please, please, please put it on a
separate piece of paper with "Customer Service" written on the top. If you don't,
well, you can imagine.
Thanks for your time. Good luck in Duelmasters! -- Green Eyes
The Perfect Scout
We all know them. We all hate them. What am I talking about? Scum. But there
is nothing better than a scum to scout at your enemy's weak points. You can see if
they'll last long, what weapons they use, where they attack, their style, etc. And
you typically don't have to fear a loss. Picture this. You see a guy on the listing
10-5-2. Well, you don't want to send your best warrior with his perfect 5-0-1 because
you want to keep winning. So you send in your scout. Now you know if you can beat
him. The scout will enable you to better pick and choose your fights. Also if you
feel like getting back at someone these scum are great.
How to design:
ST13+ can go as low as 11
CN17+
WT5-7 no more
WL17+
SP3 as low as possible
DF7 is perfect
So a perfect set up would be 15-19-13-7-19-3-8 to start train CN till 21 then WL
21 WT 8 DX 9 then whatever you want. This guy is not for ADM he's just for regular DM
and to be used to scout. Don't worry about skills until you've 3 raises in everything
then go to skills. Oh yeah strategy.
1-1-1-1-1-1-1
1-1-1-1-1-1-1
1-1-1-1-1-1-1
HE---------HE
BD---------BD
Parry-------P
Get rid of him when they get up high. Then they've already scouted everything.
Brought to you by Mr. Drake DM#5, Mgr. of Pirates
THE BRAINY, LOW WILL STRIKER
Like many others, I have experimented with the striker style, though I waited
nearly two years into playing this game before doing so. Recently, while preparing
for a tournament, I was reviewing the many roll-up sheets I had ordered in hopes that
I might find a warrior or two who might have a good chance at a TV, or even a TC
prize. Most of the roll-ups were born losers, or mediocre warriors at best, so I
decided to experiment with the striker style.
Most managers will agree that in order for a warrior to have a long-term
potential (Primus), you need a will of at least 15. I wouldn't know, never having
gotten a warrior that far. However, not all roll-ups will give you the opportunity
for a 15+ WT/WL/DF combo. With that in mind, I made a few high WT, high DF, low WL
strikers and hoped for the best. I was relying on their superior decise to get in the
first blow, and hoping to finish off the opposition before they had a chance to swing
back. Before you mega-managers say it, yes these guys would have made good, albeit
extremely fragile aimed blows with the stats such as the following. I know, I had one
with similar stats TV at the same tournament with a 9-1-0 record. However, I am
writing about the low-will striker, not aimed blows.
The result:
11-12-10-19-9-6-17 & 9-12-12-19-7-4-21
These guys have absolutely no realistic long-term potential once past basic,
assuming they live that long (that single digit will is a killer). However, #1
managed to go 8-2-1 in the tournament, picking up an impressive 18 skill sin the
process. he also managed to take out all 4 TP scum he faced, going 9 minutes in one
fight, and 5 in another (his overview claimed "poor endurance"). #2 started with very
"little endurance," yet managed to last 8 minutes vs. a TP-ratings, and had no problem
sending those pesky TP-scum desperate before the end of the first minute.
Give your striker a scimitar and let him go out 10-10-7 decise. With the high-
decise style advantage strikers get, he should get in the first, and hopefully last,
blow. Slow him down to about 6-4-6 minute 2, then go 6-1-1 thereafter. He'll either
have won or lost by the end of the 3rd minute vs. most opponents. Have him come out
at 6-4-6 (min 1), 6-2-6 (min 2), and 6-1-6 (min 3+) vs. TP-scum. I aim for the legs
(I don't know of anybody who protects the legs, especially at tournaments), though if
you want to go for the kills, aim for the head.
Will these kind of rollups TV every time? NO! Their problem is a distinct
aversion to pain, one blow will usually do them in. It is, however, a far better way
of enjoying those frustrating low WL warriors than simply writing DA on the strategy
sheet.
If you are really gutsy, run these guys in the arena. They are a sure bet to be
killed before their 15th fight, but will probably have a winning record when they die.
Comments, derision and just about anything else welcome.
Diplo Blind Man, Red Branch (3)
AND NOW, FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. . .
Are you tired of all the articles on the so-called Un-scum TPs and kill-at-will
strikers? While I always appreciate input from more experienced managers, it seems
some of the best styles are completely passed over when the articles come out in the
last couple pages of the newsletters. In this case, the lunger. In the first ten
fights of my arena, lungers held an average of 55% wins, and had a kill rate second to
strikers, tying with bashers (if killing is your goal). Experienced managers agree,
starting with offensive styles benefits newbies, because they tend to be a little
easier to run and more consistent at lower levels play.
In way of disclaimer, I'm by no means a mega-manager. I've been at this for a
little over two years, and don't have a record that you'd write home about. This is
because I do a lot of experimenting, DAing even a good fighter, just to try something
new. Though I haven't run a lot of lungers, I have learned that they tend to do best
with a fairly even spread of stats.
ST: Usually somewhere between 9-13, 13 is nice because it lets you use the long
spear (an obviously superior lunging weapon), but 9 or 11 can free up the points for
other stats, if need be.
CN: While everyone will tell you to never put points here, this is a style
which, like the TP, can benefit from decent constitution. Try not to go any lower
than 9, with something in the 13 range preferably. Given you can train this without
skill loss, a 10 works all right, though you're going to have to finish your foes in
the first minute.
SZ: 9 is all you need for any of the weapons, but it seems hard to get a good
damage rating with anything under a 12.
WT: I've gotten some good bases with as low as a 12, and a 17 didn't seem to
improve them appreciably. 15's seem to do pretty fair. Granted, given the quickness
of their fights--if they're run right--they may take a little while to develop.
WL: As with con, you're going to need that drive and endurance. A 12 con, 12
will gives normal endurance, and even will as high as 17 doesn't seem to give them all
that much more stamina, so again, I'd say in the range of 15.
SP: I'm an advocate of the low speed school, overall, and I've had them as low
as a 7 with some decent response, but an 11+ is better, and they make use of speed
better than most, given wit and deftness to use it.
DF: Again, 11+, I've heard that lungers favor the legs as a target, so you need
to be able to hit a reasonably small, mobile target.
The really nice thing about lungers is their spread of skill bases. I've had
four decent lungers, who ran in the .500 range, and probably could have done a lot
better if I'd pegged their rhythm. My best overall spread of skills came from a 13-
10-9-15-15-11-11, with 50% in initiative and attack, 30% parry, 35% defense and 20%
riposte. I've had them go as high as 60% in riposte (9-15-8-15-13-11-13), but with no
parry, it was sort of useless.
As one of the highest endurance burns in the game, obviously, the strategy is the
key, and the one place I must admit lacking. I know the armor can make a big
difference for them, so you want to go as low as possible, naked if you think you can
get away with it. Like a striker, you really don't want to get hit at all. I usually
run them hi-hi-mod (with exception of some of my defensives, I always run a 5-8 KD).
Unlike strikers and bashers, they don't seem to respond as well to the hi-lo-hi in the
later part of the fight. The weapons for a lunger are pretty obvious; epee,
longsword, short spear, or long spear. If you build one with less strength and con,
you can boost the speed and deftness enough to make the epee standards, but given my
experience with their damage ratings, I'd advise against it. As I noted in the
beginning, an even spread seems to work well, and one of my first ever was 13-12-12-
12-12-12-11, with 65% ini, 35% att, 15% rip, 15% def. No godling, by any means, but
could do some wicked things with that longspear, and very nearly won his DA match.
Again, I make no claims as being a great manager, only one with a lot of time on
his hands, and one who saw a notable lack of info on what I consider to be one of the
best potential styles in the game. Their flashy style can lead to great gains in the
popularity and recognition, and their well spread skills can probably lead to great
things in development. I would greatly welcome any form of questions, comments or
complaints, and particularly other managers experience with this--or for that matter
any other--style. Good fighting.
Elder Snorri
The Aesir (22)
Miroi Chang (DM 79)
WARRIOR HANDEDNESS
by Pagan
There has always been something FISHY about ambidextrous warriors and what hand
they hold their weapons in. If you ask anyone but me, most will tell you the same
old line about Ambi's holding their weapons in their left & sometimes in their right.
WRONG.... The computer program does something weird here, and I will explain in the
program format:
FIGHTER1 is right-handed
primary hand = WEAPONA
FIGHTER2 is ambidextrous
primary hand = Epee
off-hand = Dagger
back-up = Epee
1. FIGHTER1 swings WEAPONA
2. various computations for attack, parry, defense...
3. FIGHTER1 hits/misses (let's say he hits)
4. computations for attack area/protect area (hit or parry or save)
5. selection of attack area or impossible parry save or random area
6. FIGHTER2 is struck on LEFT ARM
7. selection on warrior file for handedness then correlate with weapon carried;
RE_ROUTE --> If ambidextrous select handedness
8. check for fail at hit-points level vs. damage done
9. FIGHTER2 drops his Epee
{at this point you'll never notice much difference. You may even think that the
computer at this time, or at the beginning of the fight, designates the weapon side
an ambi warrior is carrying. But you'd be wrong.)
10. check for initiative, if yes then check for back-up
11. if no on initiative then continue (current offensive warrior continues
offensive), if yes then offensive is broken RE_ROUTE to advantage computations
12. FIGHTER2 spins and pulls out his Epee
{so FIGHTER2 should have his Epee is which hand?...his left}
13. advantage computations judge who takes offensive
14. FIGHTER1 swings WEAPONA with devastating force!
{now this will look familiar because it always the same system, the program doesn't
change, just the numbers do}
15. various computations for attack, parry, defense...
16. FIGHTER1 hits/misses (let's say he hits)
17. computations for attack area/protect area (hit or parry or save)
18. selection of attack area or impossible parry save or random area
19. FIGHTER2 is struck on LEFT ARM
20. selection on warrior file for handedness then correlate with weapon carried;
RE_ROUTE --> If ambidextrous select handedness
21. check for fail at hit-points level vs. damage done
22. FIGHTER2 drops his DAGGER
{wasn't that Dagger in his right hand?...guess not.}
...and so on, and so forth.... You'll notice that the program never chooses a
weapon side until necessary. This has a few ramifications: hit points in specific
areas, selective attacking based on warrior body positioning, and a few other things.
This is true because I have PROOF. Eventually you will get fights that this
will happen to. BUT IT AIN'T EASY. It was just luck that I got the hardcopy to show
it to me. You may notice that your ambi warriors, if they drop their weapons (and
every warrior eventually does), that eventually you will have two different fights
where your guy got hit in the same arm and dropped two different weapons. It wasn't
until I got lucky and it happened to me twice in one fight (yes I lost the fight!)
getting hit in one arm and dropping two different weapons.
You should begin to see some format here. The program breakdown is basic, but
is a close enough approximation for you to get a better feel about what's happening.
-- Pagan
A BEGINNER'S GUIDE TO DUELMASTERS
or
HOW TO KEEP YOUR HEAD ABOVE WATER
Way back when I first started Duelmasters, I was helped immeasurably by an
article written by an experienced manager whose name escapes me now. I regret that
now, because that article is largely responsible for my current success in
Duelmasters. At least, it kept me interested and competitive until I knew enough to
develop my own strategies and styles. What I would like to accomplish with this
article is to give enough advice on the various styles that a beginner can put
together a decent fighter. I feel for those managers struggling with a 20 or 30
percent winning record. I was once one of you (in Cliffhome). With that in mind, I
will briefly discuss each fighting style and my recommendations. So here goes:
AIMED BLOW: I've never designed one, so if you're set on having one, I'm not going
to be much help to you. A setup for a good AB will produce a GREAT PR. But if you
still want one, try something like this: 11-9-9-17-15-6-17. You need wit and deftness
and the 11 strength will give you a longsword or quarterstaff. Great against TP.
BASHER: A pretty good style for the beginner, and easy to produce. Bashers come in a
variety of shapes and sizes, from the small, fast type to the dreaded "scum basher."
You need ST of 13 for a WH. It's the best basher weapon. The more speed he has, the
less constitution he needs. ST & SZ should equal about 25. Example: 15-7-10-17-13-
11-11 or 15-17-10-13-17-5-7.
LUNGER: Good choice for the beginner. Many people make lungers too small. At least
SZ 9 so he can use a LS vs. heavy armor. Try high WL and SP and if you have the
deftness, try a LO. Don't worry too much about CN. Run 10-10-10 to start. Use only
one weapon. Ex: 13-5-12-15-15-17-7.
PARRY-LUNGE: My favorite style. Try 11-10-12-16-16-6-13, increase WT & WL to 17.
Run 3-3-3 first minute, then more offense and activity after that. Be patient with
the parry types. It takes time to develop their skills, but once you do, they are the
best and most entertaining designs. Use LO/DA and light armor.
PARRY-STRIKE: Set up similar to PL, but may have more ST for heavier weapons. Could
also use more CN. He can use a variety of weapons well. Ex: 13-13-9-16-15-5-13.
PARRY-RIPOSTE: Arguably the best style once fully developed. WT and DF should be 17
with one or two stat raises. ST of 9 okay, but 11 better (it give you LO against
heavier armor). Size should be small, although I was once successful with a size 14
PR. PR needs a fair amount of CN. Ex: 9-15-5-17-15-6-17.
SLASHER: I haven't been too successful with these, but some people have been. They
need to be able to take a few hits, so keep CN around 10. ST of 13 gives you a GA
against heavy armor. Keep size down. Ex: 13-10-6-16-11-11-14.
STRIKER: There are two basic styles of striker: High speed and deftness and enough
strength to handle weapons of choice, and large strikers with low SP and DF.
Regardless, keep the WT high and CN low. They are naturally decisive, so take
advantage of that. Use only one weapon at a time. Ex: 13-5-13-17-15-15-9 or 13-7-
17-15-17-7-7.
TOTAL PARRY: Some TPs are carelessly made, figuring that it isn't really a skillful
type, but those fighters don't last long and they're boring! A good design for a TP
is 13-13-8-17-15-5-13. This would also make a very good PS or PL! Run 3-3-3 P for a
couple of minutes, then 4-3-4 or 5-3-5 for a minute or two. A good choice of weapons
is SH/ME; ACM/H. You can get by with less WT or ST and he can be larger, but keep CN,
WL, and DF fairly high. You will be insulted, because some styles just can't last for
more than a minute or two. But this is your real strength.
WALL OF STEEL: A good style. ST & CN & WL should equal 45 or so. I like at least
size 9 so he can use a QS. SP isn't really important. Run defensively for a minute
or two, then offensively after that. Ex: 15-12-9-13-17-5-13.
GENERAL NOTE: Often, the specific stat levels will depend more upon your weapon
choice than it will your fighter's style. If you want to use a great axe, you will
need a ST of 13 and DF of 11. Lungers using SS or LS need ST of 11. LO needs WT and
DF. A WH needs ST of 13 but only a DF of 7. Some weapons require a size 9 fighter.
So, when designing your fighter, think about the weapon you want him to use before you
finalize your selections. Also, remember that you can raise each stat (except size)
two points without too much trouble (unless your WL is very low) while you're fighting
in the arena. Be patient with your fighter and develop him gradually. Few great
fighters start out that way! Good luck in the arena!
Fritz of Battle Pets (225)
Solven -- 22
ENDURANCE
by Tankesh/Adie (DM11, Aruak City)
DETERMINATION
This attribute of a warrior found on the overview determines how long a warrior
can keep up their offense, defense, or just keep standing. All styles use the same
physical stats and the computer determines their endurance the same way, using those
stats as a base. But the actual endurance of a warrior can vary up or down from that
base depending on luck (good or bad). Like skills, each warrior can be gifted, mode,
or hosed in their starting endurance, and that giftedness or penalty seems to stick
with them permanently. Possible endurance levels, from lowest to highest are: very
little, poor, normal (no comment), good, great, tremendous, awesome.
Endurance can also be raised, in order of importance, with WL, ST and CN trains.
After training endurance to a warrior's first new level, I find it usually takes about
6 total trains, on average, to get to the next level of endurance. If a warrior is
gifted, as training continues, that higher level of endurance appears to stick with
them. It would be difficult to list numerous data points here to give you a better
feel for what endurance to expect in your new warrior, but if you want more data, try
this web site and look at the chart:
http://www.bit-net.com/~johnh/calc.cgi?end
ENDURANCE BURN
How fast endurance is used depends on the style of a warrior, their activity
level, their offensive effort, and armor/weapons carried.
1) Burn rate by style -- This is tricky to tell as nobody runs all styles with
the same strategy and armor regularly. But here is an approximate rate of burn by
style from highest to lowest, in my humble opinion:
LU - WS - SL - BA - PL - ST - PS - AB - PS - TP
Personally, I find the last five extremely difficult to separate, but usually the
more active styles burn faster due to faster strategies and more offensive skills, so
I tried to put them in order of the most active, typically. There are numerous
exceptions of course.
2) Activity Level -- Warriors running at higher levels of activity burn endurance
faster no matter their style, period. It may be that running on a warrior's favorite
rhythms allows said warrior to continue at that level longer than otherwise. When a
warrior gets tired, a strategy with a higher activity level will inhibit them from
recovering their endurance as they will try to keep moving.
3) Offensive Effort -- The more a warrior swings, the more tired they get. Of
course, if your OE is high, but the other guy is doing all the swinging because they
have the initiative, you aren't burning as much endurance. Endurance recovery is also
inhibited if offensive effort is kept up when a warrior is tired.
4) Weapons/Armor Carried -- The more one carries, the faster a warrior gets tired
carrying it. Easy.
EXHAUSTION
Warriors who are exhausted or tired will see lines in the fight reading, 'no
longer has the endurance to put up much of a defense', or 'staggers with exhaustion'.
You will see the former line if your warrior is exhausted and is attacked. Such
warriors are easier to hit and have a difficult time using their defense and parry,
which are penalized or even non-existent while they rest and try to recover their
endurance.
ENDURANCE RECOVERY
Over the course of a fight, warriors who become tired will often 'fade back,
snatching a much needed moment of rest' or some other similar action. This is
basically a breather for the warrior to try and recover some endurance so they can
keep fighting. Kind of like a climber pausing briefly to catch his breath and recoup.
If the warrior is not defeated while recovering, they will continue eventually, or try
to. For high burn styles, the very thought of continuing often makes them fade back
again and they may stand around for a while if not hacked down. They may also leap
about continuously, holding onto the initiative, but lack the endurance to actually
swing! Very low activity and offensive effort allows easier recovery than even
moderate strategies by telling your warrior to effectively give up the initiative and
chill. Of course, you run the risk of getting attacked while standing there. Low
burn styles can actually, if running slow enough (i.e., never attacking!), stand
around and recover their endurance almost as fast as they lose it, making REALLY long
fights possible between two such warriors.
WILL CHECKS
Lastly, related to endurance, are "Will Checks". When a warrior is exhausted,
this check is performed by the program to decide if the warrior wants to go on for
just a bit longer, to hang in there. It occurs often in longer fights, especially
with the Total Parry style, which often wins by exhausting their opponents. A failed
will check results in the warrior collapsing from exhaustion. A successful check
allows an exhausted warrior to continue and try to recover more endurance.
Additionally, will checks determine whether a warrior surrenders, usually due to being
wounded. A will check is determined by just that, WILL. If your warrior has a low
will, they will surrender or collapse more often than those with a high will.
Lastly, kill desire affects will checks. A low kill desire will make it more
likely that a warrior will fail his will check and surrender, therefore live. A
higher kill desire makes the warrior more willing to gut it out and fight to the end,
helping his will checks succeed. This may cause warriors to get killed more easily,
unless they win. This kind of death is due to a warrior who refuses to surrender,
giving their opponent more chances to try and kill them, or due to increased trauma
from more hits to a specific body location that can result in an infirmary death.
An Unbiased Look at the Slashing Attack
Really.
Slashers are coming out big this season, and as it's a style that I think
requires a lot of study, I'd like to share my learnings and observations with those of
you interested in this excellent offensive style.
Too often I've heard experienced managers shrug off the slasher out of hand--why?
Because they've never succeeded with the style themselves, and as such, hardly
consider it worth noting. However, it's a style that's sneaking a lot into the
limelight these days.
General design:
ST: 11-17--I would go as low as 7 or 9 depending on the warrior's size; I do
like at least a 9 for use of the scimitar. It's nice to get them to at least normal
damage, good, or better, because if they can't inflict any damage, they're going to be
in trouble.
CN: any--I like to give them some CN just so they can take a hit or two, but
it's not necessary. I have a couple of slashers who started with a 4 CN and made it
to AD; bear in mind, however, that a slasher with a good design is as mortal as an
aimed blow, and you can expect to lose them just as you've become attached to them.
SZ: 5-11--NO BIGGER. I don't know why, but big slashers just don't seem to make
it. However, I am flexible here, and I'm currently attempting an experiment with
gigantic slashers. If it works, I'll update this. As of right now, I'll stick with
the smaller ones. Another good reason to have a good strength.
WT: 17-21--As with any style, the higher the better. I've had some success with
WTs in the 13-17 range, and even 11, but I don't expect him to ever be Primus level.
If you can get 17 or 21, then do so.
WL: 11-21--Again, as with WT. A slasher with a good endurance will shock the
hell out of a scum TP who goes out sure that a slasher is easily scummed--not so. 17
is a good number; if possible, go with it.
SP: 5-9--If someone tells you that a slasher needs speed, DO NOT LISTEN to them.
It's hooey. A slasher already gets a speed and init bonus, they don't need any more
help, and in the long run it will greatly hinder them. A high-speed slasher will end
up Init-heavy with absolutely no other skills (and it's really frustrating to have a
fast little slasher who already has a Master Init and still isn't learning any other
skills)--there's nothing to 'em. You want him well-rounded, then you keep that SP
low; that's the major drawback to the slasher (or any pure offense style), and I
believe it's the main thing that's kept them from being more greatly respected.
DF: 13-21--Here's where you make or break 'em. A good deftness makes up for the
decise that might be lost in a low speed, and decise is more important than init. Any
good aimed blow will also be an excellent slasher (and, to avoid the inevitable snorts
of derision, yes, they'd be a better anything else. But I'm talking about slashers).
A good, generally perfect slasher looks so: 7-9-5-21-18-11-13 (it's not
ABSOLUTELY perfect, mind you; if I was designing him today I'd probably have gone with
a 17 WL and 8 ST). These are the stats of what is perhaps my best all around slasher,
skill-wise. This rollup started with these bases:
INIT: 90%
RIP: 60%
ATT: 70%
PAR: 15%
DEF: 65%
DEC: 55%
As you can see, this slasher got lucky--more, perhaps, than some would,
especially in the defense area. Some slashers will be frustratingly low in defense.
Despite this skill base, he also started doing LITTLE damage--with this kind of
problem, I definitely advocate raising ST to get rid of it. It WILL hurt his record,
and, with my newest Stat/Skill chart, I see that raising from 7 to 10 hasn't hurt this
slasher's learning at all, and now he does GOOD damage.
Of course, not all of my slashers have been this good skill wise. Often they do
start with desperately frustratingly low parry/defense skills, therefore needing
nothing more than to get that first hit. Many slashers, especially the high ST/WT/DF
combo ones, need to get the first hit--'cause if they get hit first, it's all over.
One of my favorite designs looks like this: 13-13-6-17-15-7-13. This slasher has
been desperately unlucky in skills, favorites, and definitely so record-wise. I can
also attribute my lackadaisical managerial style to his lack of success, because I
believe the numbers to be good.
Be that as it may, the slasher I've had the best success with looked like this:
10-14-9-18-16-8-9. He started with a negative 10% parry, and only a 20% defense. For
those wishing to snigger at me, this is Billy the Kid. He doesn't look like this now,
of course; he has a 47-29-2 record with several stat raises and three Advanced
Masters. So it's up in the air, for me, as to whether a really awesome design or just
dumb luck is what attributes to one's managerial success.
But that's neither here nor there. Once you HAVE your design, you want to know
how to run them. I've heard some say that weapons selection is limited with slashers.
Sure. Limited to the BEST WEAPONS IN THE GAME. A slasher can use hatchets (don't
laugh! My slashers can do devastating things with hatchets), scimitar, broadsword,
battle axe, longsword, epee, or shortsword. The scimitar is the weapon I advocate as
the best all around, but always try others. Every slasher has their own ideas and
some are pretty picky about it. I don't recommend using the epee in regular DM even
if you have the stats for it, unless you use it only against armor classes 0-4 or so.
Armor: I dress them heavy, but mostly because I like them to LIVE. A slasher is
generally so quick that even as heavy as scalemail won't slow them down once they have
that expert Decise (and often before). But in order to please those who think
excessive armor is scummy, you can drop them down to ALE/L. Go without armor only if
you're sure you can get the first swing and drop your opponent with that first hit or
it's a super scum who WON'T hit you. Otherwise, if you want to live, I recommend some
armor. But each manager can use this advice as they will.
Strategies: Early on, I run them fairly hard, 10-10-6 in minute one, dropping to
8-4-6 in minute two, and then to 6-1-5(6) thereafter. Some slashers are a little
strange in that they don't mind an "inverted strategy," that is, a higher defensive
effort (activity level) than offensive, i.e.: 8-10 or 6-8. The 6-1-6 usually means
that they can last a good long time against parry styles, and usually come out on top.
The styles to watch out for are high-kill, high-decise strikers and killer lungers.
Most slashers can and will get the jump on lungers, but the strikers are tougher; both
CAN be beaten. With a little clever fiddling, the good slasher can beat ALL styles.
But watch out for him while he's still young.
Tactics: Not necessary. The slash is nice, if they like it, but it CAN slow
them down. Decise is better if you want to be first off the mark or they appear
hesitant in the first minute, but only in minute one OR desperation (but not both).
Use response against strikers using decise.
Important Note: It is absolutely NOT TRUE that your OE and KD have to be the
same number in order for a defensive to be effective. I don't buy it. A 10 OE and a
7 KD will get you the results you want, and with the correct strategy, you can be as
much a killer, or not, as you desire without going berserk at a 10 KD. Trust me on
this one! :)
And that's about it. If you have any comments, criticisms, complaints, new
ideas, different ideas, etc., you can contact me via:
Tex's Rangers (20, 51, 105, 104)
Texas Independence Co (57, 105)
-- Tex
PRIORITY SKILL LEARNING -- by Pagan
There are specific facts you should know about skills. To begin with, there are
six skill areas. Three are offensive (attack, initiative, decisiveness) and three are
defensive (parry, riposte, defense); they define, together with your stats, the
abilities of your warrior in these areas. You should already know the implications
that skills have upon your warrior's roll-up, but now I want to talk about how
learning additional skills relates to your warrior's potential.
Each warrior has a favorite skill learn, that is to say, a warrior will learn a
particular skill more often than any others. Generally speaking, the skills a warrior
learns most often are heavily influenced by his fighting style, which is called
Priority. I will talk about priority a little later, but in general, it is the
likelihood that a style is to learn a skill category. For example, Total Parries
learn parry and defense more often than they learn decise or initiative.
Your warrior's favorite learn affects the priority of his skill learning. A
favorite learn is only limited by the six possible learns allowable, so you may have a
Total Parry with a favorite learn of initiative or a Slasher with a favorite learn of
defense. In any event, by your twentieth learn you should have an idea as to what his
favorite learn is, because of the disproportionate amount of skills learned within one
category. Also, when your fighter is invited to join the ADM arenas, you will be told
what skill learn your warrior favors.
A new area that I have been examining in the context of skill learning is the
impact an opponent's style has on the type of skills learned. Your warrior's fighting
style, along with the fighting style of his opponent, has a direct effect on the type
of skills learned, but does not control the number of skills learned. When he fights
a Total Parry, for instance, he is more likely to learn a defensive skill than when he
fights a Slasher.
PRIORITY
Chart developed by Ben Hitz -- "PUG"
Revised by -- DMobster and Pagan
The probability of learning a skill is modified by the style. Each style has a
learning scope that differs from each other style. There are Priority skill areas for
each style that differ amongst each style. Each skill is given a corresponding number
from 1 to 6 depending upon its priority.
PRIORITY SKILLS BY STYLE
AB -- ATT, RIP, DEF, PAR, DEC, INI
BA -- ATT, INI, DEC, PAR, RIP, DEF
LU -- INI, DEF, RIP, ATT, DEC, PAR
PL -- INI, PAR, ATT, DEF, DEC, RIP
PS -- PAR, DEC, INI, ATT, DEF, RIP
PR -- RIP, PAR, ATT, DEF, INI, DEC
ST -- DEC, ATT, INI, RIP, PAR, DEF
SL -- INI, ATT, RIP, DEC, PAR, DEF
WS -- ATT, INI, PAR, DEF, DEC, RIP
TP -- PAR, DEF, RIP, ATT, DEC, INI
Aimed Blows learn attack the most and initiative the least out of any of the
skills. By adding your warrior's Priority skills along with that of your opponent's
Priority skills, you can come to see the probability your warrior has to learn a
particular skill.
The above list for Priority may not be free from error; however, I believe it to
be an accurate reflection of what the actual priority skills are across the styles.
Some of the skill areas were so close in number that estimations had to be made about
which skill was higher in priority to another.
TRAINING SKILLS AND STATS
What happens in a fight with priority skills? Take a look at a Parry Lunge who fights
a Slasher.
Skills Slasher Parry Lunge Total Number of trials
INI 6 6 12
RIP 4 1 5
ATT 5 4 9
PAR 2 5 7
DEF 1 3 4
DEC 3 2 5
Total 21 21 42
Now, here we have the total pool of skills in fights between a Slasher and a
Parry Lunge. In this fight (Parry Lunge vs Slasher), it is more likely for a warrior
to learn, in this order: INI, ATT, PAR, RIP & DEC, DEF. By calculating the variables
we can see the likelihood for either warrior to learn each corresponding skill. To
learn initiative, there are 12 possible skills in a pool of 42. So 12 divided by 42 =
28.57% chance to learn an initiative skill. There are only 4 defensive skills in the
pool, so 4/42 = 9.52% chance to learn a defensive skill. By looking at the numbers
you can see that, in this fight, both warriors are more likely to learn initiative
skills than defensive skills. Also, by calculating all of the skills your opponents
learn, you will learn the most common skill your warrior teaches. This is the same
process as finding your favorite learn.
The likelihood your warrior has to learn a skill is a factor of Wit. Where
Priority shows you the pool of skills, your Wit determines whether your warrior learns
the skills or not. For an example of how this may work--and understand this is only
theory--the computer seems to keep pulling out skills out of a pool of the two
combatants' Priority skills. It then checks your warrior's Wit against a variable to
see if this skill can be learned or not. If it cannot be learned, the computer throws
away the skill and pulls out another. (Remember that the total pool size then
decreases, from 42 to 41, so you must then divide accordingly). The computer rolls a
random number, affected by a warrior's Wit, to determine the number of skills that
will be learned up to a maximum of six, and a minimum of zero. (There will be no
taking away of a warrior's skills!) The computer then continues to pull out skills
out of the priority pool until:
1. You fail to learn a skill
2. You reach your maximum allowable number of skills (0 to 6)
3. The pool of skills is exhausted.
How then is Priority affected by a warrior's favorite learn? You need to add 6
points of Priority to your warrior's favorite skill learn. This favorite affects only
your warrior's pooled Priority skills, and does not affect your opponent's pooled
Priority skills. Vice versa, your warrior's pooled Priority skills are not affected
by your opponent's favorite learn. You can use Priority to find your warrior's
favorite skill learn, once your warrior has learned 20-30 total skills. Without
calculating a favorite, your warrior should learn his base percentage chances with
Priority:
Priority Number Percent Chance for Priority
6 28.57%
5 23.81%
4 19.10%
3 14.29%
2 9.52%
1 4.76%
You are adding 6 points of Priority to your favorite skill learn, so after you
warrior has approximately 20 to 30 total skills, divide the number 6 (the favorite
Priority) by 27 (the Priority pool +21 & the favorite +6) and this equals = 22.22%.
So any skill area that is approximately 22.22% higher in skill learning than it should
be (as listed in the chart above) is your warrior's favorite learn.
-- Pagan
PARRY-RIPOSTE
--the how to and why--
Greetings, fellow managers. This article will deal with the design and
successful running of the parry riposte, henceforth referred to as ripper. A well
designed ripper will have both enough offense to satisfy those lunger maniacs, and
defense to make the most parry-XYZ fanatic happy. The most gratifying quality of the
ripper is, of course, his legendary riposte ability. The trick? Finding out how to
make him do just that. It requires a well-balanced mix of good design, diligent
studying of his fights, and a sound strategy. Let's do this step by step:
DESIGN
ST: 7-11
CN: 9 or less
SZ: 7-9
WT: 15-21
WL: 13-17
SP: 5-13
DF: 17-21
EXPLANATION:
ST: I like to have an 11 ST for using the longsword, a ripper's best weapon vs.
the heavy armor. When designing one, unless the strength was 6 or less, I probably
wouldn't add. Why? He needs points elsewhere more importantly.
CN: Never add points. It's a waste and gets you no skills, which are a highly
valuable commodity you need.
SZ: Smaller IS better. Why? Again, you need those almighty points elsewhere
and who cares if you don't have the initiative? You'll steal it with your riposte!
WT: Honestly, I'd like to never start below 17, but the Rollup Gods make that
quite hard at times. Therefore I settle for a rock bottom 15, allowing you to use the
epee and still learn at a respectable pace.
WL: I've run with a 13 will and experienced no ill effects. As a rule, though,
if you have extra points and just can't figure out what to do with them... slap them
on will. Will is important when considering your warrior's long term potential and
the ability to raise attributes once skills are maxed out through learning.
SP: This and deftness are the two main ingredients for riposte. Nevertheless, I
place the importance of speed right above con. It really isn't necessary and quite
frankly, I'd never add points to it because you won't have any left once maxing out
wit, deftness, and will.
DF: I place this as the second most important attribute for a ripper. You need
to be able to hit where you aim and make your shots count. When you come up against
that dreaded TP wearing APA/F & ME/ME, 100 hit points-plus, scumming for all he's
worth, you have to be able to hit those low hit point areas to win that fight. The
arms are my favorite attack location. I've run up against one of these things and by
minute 7 he dropped his ME, went desperate and gave up. If you get a design that
makes you say, "Wow, this could be a good aimed blow," chances are he'd make one
helluva ripper.
ARMOR:
Since the mortality rate of young rippers is alarmingly high, I recommend that
you never go below ARM/H until that rating in defense and parry come your way. Once
that happens, and you'll already be on your way to Advanced Expert riposte by this
time, if not higher, go ahead and put him in ALE, if you want. Always keep that helm,
though! Never forget that your beginning ripper is going to take some hits, and since
we hate to waste points on con, we depend on the armor to protect us until our
defenses come on line.
WEAPONS:
I've had good luck with the LO/DA combo. The EP/HA works well, also. As always,
though, find his FAVORITE! Others like going with the small shield as the off-hand
parrying weapon, but since I've never tried that I can't comment on it. Experiment,
that's the only way to find out.
EXAMPLES:
1) 13-9-7-15-13-8-19
2) 9-13-8-19-15-5-15
3) 9-7-7-21-13-6-21
1) This is actually a warrior. He is running at 75% and doing quite well. In
half his fights he has drawn first blood. Not only having the initiative, but by
parrying the blow and counter-striking.
2) This was a ripper also, until ripper #1 killed him. Lots of potential.
3) This would be my "perfect" ripper.
The Reader's Digest version of design is this: Wit, deftness, and will, in that
order. Remember, when designing a warrior, take into consideration the breakpoints
and place your points accordingly.
STRATEGY:
This is a general strategy that has worked wonderfully for me. No two rippers
are likely to be the same so this is just a good framework to start with. A highly
important detail is to thoroughly read your fights and find out what activity level he
likes to riposte at. I have also found that the old standby kill desire of 2 more
often than not made him pass up attack, via riposte, opportunities left and right. By
having it at 5, he increased his counterstrikes considerably.
3 3 6 6 6 5 3
4 4 4 4 4 3 5
5 5 5 5 5 5 2
LA -------------------------- >
BD -------------------------- >
N --------------------------- >
P P N N N N P
You will notice that when he goes "offensive" in minute three, I don't force
anything with a tactic modification. I've found them to hinder a ripper more than
help. Some may laugh at this minute three offensive strategy, but he HAS killed in
minute three. Against defensive styled warriors, he looked like an offensive lunatic.
Against offensive warriors, he ripostes 2-3 times per attack thrown at him.
FINAL NOTES:
Always remember that a ripper will make a corresponding amount of attacks using
lower numbers as an offensive warrior going ballistic with high numbers. Don't push
your ripper, but slowly move his numbers up and down and find out where HE likes to
run. Your warrior overview can give you a clue to this. Don't worry about him making
a lot of wild attacks at first, as this is normal for rippers. They get robbed on
their attack percentage due to their style, but it will come around in time.
In closing, if this article can help just one person struggling with the ripping
style, I'll be happy. I also encourage feedback, whether it be in agreement or
constructive criticizing. I base my conclusions from talking to other managers and my
own experience, which has been best with rippers. Good luck to all in the battle
and....
May the Almighty One guide your blade.
Blackhawk, mgr. Knight Rangers (arena 22)
and Knight Rangers (arena 20)
A service of the
BROTHERHOOD OF JUSTICE
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B O J
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There is a Tavern in the Town...
Finally, after a great deal of research, study, gathering of information, wasting
time, not to mention hundreds of delicious meals later, I have finally complied enough
for the first article on Alastari's fine taverns, inns, and other such establishments.
For the sake of convenience, I started in the northlands, and the Island of the
Whistling Dragon, where sits the fine city of Aradi. Aradi simply has too many night
spots to do them all justice, but certainly the two greatest are Drake's Lodge and the
Blind Cyclops Inn. Both have an excellent setting, offer entertainment, lodging, and
a fine menu. Drake's menu has a wide selection not only from the northern Andorian
traditions, but also many more exotic dishes culled from the eastern seaboard,
Malcorn, and the Karnhorn Empire. The Blind Cyclops leans more heavily towards the
west coast cuisine, and some of the spicy dishes from the Aruaki Clanhold can be found
here. The seafood at both locations, and generally across town, is excellent.
Running down the coast into the Aruaki Clanhold itself, the first stop would
normally be Amen-Tei; however, I jumped over it into the heart of Andoria, first.
Along the populous Catseye River you'll find the cities of Seam, Aruak and Solven. In
Seam, one of the finest places to eat is the Stoned Golem. The prices are reasonable
and the cooking excellent. I recommend the dragon steak highly; fiery seasoning and
the richest Kati-Tei wine to wash it down with. Also in Seam you'll find the Frozen
Arms Inn--a perfect location to go if you particularly enjoy indoor ice skating (on
the floor). The temperature is kept at a constant 25 degrees Fahrenheit, but if you
have a heavy parka, I recommend at least stopping by for a drink of tira--I don't know
what's in it, and I hate to ask, but it's worth it.
Seam is also home to the Firedragon Inn and the Final Rest. Both cater more to
the hard drinkers rather than the picky eaters. The Firedragon is more likely to host
a bar brawl--if you like quiet conversation, I recommend the Final Rest.
On into Aruak, you'll find the Bulldog Inn, a place for food, drink, gambling, or
sleeping--whatever you're looking for, you're likely to find it. The food is tasty
and the companionship unequaled.
In Point, you'll discover the Ogre's Crypt. Run by the same people as the Blind
Cyclops Inn of Aradi, it offers a similar style of cuisine. It's been rumored that
offworld "soft drinks" are also available here, although that is strictly hearsay.
Enjoyable, always.
Across the channel in Iaye there rests one of the finest inns in Alastari, the
Dragon's Blood Inn. Notable not only for its fine food and excellent selection of
imported wines and liquors, the Dragon's Blood has one of the most welcoming interiors
of any inn I've seen. The large downstairs rooms are divided into a gigantic "common"
room with a fireplace large enough for five men to stand in--frequently to be found
there entire sides of beef, slow cooking for the evening's meals. A "party" room can
either be closed off from the main room for private gatherings or added to the
spacious quality. Smaller rooms are also available. Also, the Dragon's Blood offers
the best whiskey I've ever tasted. Also in Iaye is the Rat's Nest. Found on the
northern waterfront, it is mostly a tavern and well known mostly for its taxidermy.
The walls are a veritable museum of native Alastarian wildlife. Gambling, drinking,
and women are the main staples here.
Back on the mainland, I stopped in Khalhums long enough to listen to the music in
the Blues Hall--not much on food, but the drinks are generous and well priced, and the
music unbeatable. Also in Khalhums is the Black Sheep Inn; it's a large barn-shaped
building not far from the arena that serves good food (mostly mutton, but it's lean
and well-cooked) and excellent spirits.
Going down into the Federation, I found an exciting place in Sunset called
Wildlife Unlimited--anything you want, you're likely to find it here. All forms of
entertainment, any drink imaginable, food from lands all over Alastari and beyond.
Part of the profits of Wildlife Unlimited goes to the training, research, and
development of warriors. Also in Sunset I found the Baba Yaga's Bar and Grill, with
great beer served in gigantic mugs with large tin plates heaped with filling, tasty
food. It's a comfortable, friendly place that I recommend highly to anyone traveling
down that way. Across the street is a large casino called Cagliostro's Castle--very
classy place that caters to the "better class" of gambler. A very enjoyable evening
can be had there if you win--the drinks are a bit on the expensive side, but the
liquor is the best.
Crossing over to nearby Transel, stop by the Sultan's Tent. The menu is
extensive, serving dishes from most of this corner of the world; I highly recommend
the Nianian Firefish. The drinks are good, with a big selection to choose from, and
the entertainment excellent. The ambiance can't be beat, with a massive firepit sunk
into the center of the common room; when the fire is out, a stage can be pulled over
it for more of the entertainment. I suggest stopping by on the weekends, when the
fire is lit and the overhead skylight drawn back--quite a sight! It's made mostly of
mahogany and marble, and is kept up well.
In Tricorus, there were several places that caught my eye, but most notable is
the Blue Dolphin Inn. The Blue Dolphin is a large establishment reminiscent of the
Dragon's Blood; comfortable and roomy, with gigantic bay windows looking out at the
massive Tricoran monument, Three-Horn Mountain. The food is good, if plain fare, with
healthy portions at a reasonable price. Excellent drinks. Highly recommended. They
naturally specialize in Tricorus' delicious gold brandy.
In Delarq Tor, if you can find it and get in, there is Ho's Pleasure Club.
"Pleasure" is the operative term. Fortunately, I had a face the doorman liked AND the
hundred bashari cover charge and was allowed in without being beaten to a pulp (as I
saw happen to some other hapless fellow). The music is loud and tasteless, as are the
women--apparently there is a house rule that the only women allowed are sluts or
royalty. There is gambling, regulated by the house and the house takes profits from
all winners. The drinks are watery. The house rules are strict. I got out before I
was thrown out.
In Talcama, if you're in the mood to be silly, stop by at the House of Jello and
watch the wrestling matches. Apparently, better food and drink is served upstairs,
but the entire purpose of the House of Jello is to go down to the pit and watch the
action. It's just for fun, and that it is. If you're there, go.
I found the Choking Ogre in Cliffhome, and I enjoyed it tremendously. It is an
extensive building with a high ceiling, a combination tavern and gamehouse. The food
is excellent--daring, spicy, and dramatic, presented well and cooked to perfection.
The portions are healthy, as are the drinks--sometimes necessary when having the Hot
Spiced Miniature Potatoes! Everything is reasonably priced.
In Rocanis, there were too many taverns to choose from. The Wanton Troll,
Mylar's, the Grub & Rub Bar & Bistro, and on--I finally settled on the Wanton Troll,
for its popularity. The outside isn't promising, and being greeted by the six foot
tall (and wide) proprietress, the wanton troll herself, Beulah, is a trifle
frightening. However, once you get past her (if you don't know the password, flirt a
little with her and she'll let you in), you'll find it's all worth it. It's a
boisterous, crowded place, generally full of loud talk and laughter. Hot and spicy
food is plentiful, and the drinks are served in large, often iced, mugs. On a good
night both are excellent, although it sometimes depends on the cook. It's always
enjoyable, though, and it's a place I've been back to.
Further north on the eastern side of Alastari, I found Salty's Chowder House in
Morya--a seaport tavern inland; and worth it for the food, the house special Chowder.
It's thick and filling and VERY tasty. I was disappointed to find none of the more
impressive drinks; southern wine for the most part, although Arkers pale ale in that
neck of the woods is worth the price.
In Lapur there were a number of taverns, with the Burned Tree (formerly the
Gnarled Tree, before a fire gutted the old building; it has been re-built) being the
first on my list--a pleasant place with excellent drinks but the food was only so-so
without much of a selection. The Blue Rose Tavern served up better food but only
three varieties of beer and again, only southern wines. The Drowned Rat offered an
good whiskey but only had pretzels and nuts.
I found a small tavern in Monuntial called Pontiff's Potent Potables; the food
was plain fare of the meat & potatoes variety--unremarkable but plentiful and tasty,
reasonably priced--HOWEVER, the excellent and exotic array of drinkables makes this a
definite find. Each of the drinks seems to have a quality all its own; you definitely
leave feeling good. Fighting is discouraged and weapons are checked at the door.
Reservations are recommended.
I cut back up to the Isle here, and found several excellent places. Just outside
Willow Beach, near the Darkholm arena, is the fabulous Eve's Palace Casino--upper
crust, upper class, and definitely worth the price. An excellent place to spend an
evening.
In Talahya, I stopped by E-Snee's Bar & Grill; ordinary food for ordinary prices.
Generally good. Nearby is the "food market," which is a block of restaurants of all
kinds. You can find everything from southern desert cuisine to the exotic stuff of
the Northwights. If you're on the Isle, you could try a new restaurant every day.
Talahya's Market District is home to restaurants of every shape and size, serving food
from all over Alastari and Lirith Kai. Not far from the Primus Arena and the Grey
Tower, this street of little restaurants, taverns, and theatres is a must if you are
just passing through. Check it out and you'll find what you're looking for,
guaranteed.
Over in Andorak, the Crimson Eagle caters to all whims; food, drink, lodging,
gambling--a very classy-looking place, serves to all types and has a good selection.
Also in Andorak you'll find the Sightless Dragon, a smaller but no less welcoming
environment with excellent live music nightly.
Close by, near the Home Guard arena, is the ever-popular Bash & Glug--food and
drink, plenty of both, for a good price. Fun, fights, & frolic is the rule here, no
weapons allowed. Their early morning breakfast bar is a MUST. Also here is an Ice
Cream Parlor under the name Arthur's Last Stand (I'll explain that shortly). Exotic
flavors, good on a hot day or any day.
Arthur's Last Stand is a "chain" of taverns operated in the cities of Talcama,
Caer, Morya, Dullens, and Willow Beach (Darkholm). They are the same wherever you
find them; friendly, with decent drinks and decent food. Recommended if you are
someplace that they are--familiar, comfortable surroundings.
If you know of a tavern or eating establishment in your city that you would like
to recommend, let us know about it!
-- Swift
JESSIE'S GUIDE TO A GOOD BASHER (3rd Edition)
Greetings. This is a 3rd edition of "Jessie's guide to a good BASHER." I have a
little more time to upgrade my second article to give you some more info regarding my
favorite style. The major changes are in the weapons and strategies section. But
read the whole thing, I've made other changes as well. Also, this article doesn't
discuss the SCUM basher or other mutant variations of this style. It deals mainly
with ones meant to last past 10-15 fights.
Most new mangers or managers that don't run bashers that much don't understand
how to make a good basher. Needless to say, they don't run them right, either. Even
with my hoard of bashers, each one varies somewhat.
The 4 MOST important things to a basher are DECISE skills, ATTACK skills, DAMAGE
bonus, and maintaining the INITIATIVE. This is also the order of importance as well.
Bashers also learn ATTACK, DECISE and INITIATIVE skills faster than other skills.
They are very similar to slashers in many ways.
1. DECISE SKILLS: A basher needs to strike first, and this is why his number of
decise skills must be high. His bigger size will give him bonus DECISE skills, as
well as bonus INITIATIVE skills. Bashers have poor defense and parrying abilities,
this is why they need to gain the initiative. A BASHER'S best defense is a good
OFFENSE. Speed also gives decise skills. But I don't add to speed, 'cause speed isn't
vital to a basher or his performance.
2. ATTACK: After gaining the initiative, the number of attack skills will
determine when he hits or not. Bashers need to hit what they swing at, cause they may
not get another chance to swing. I recommend a 10+ base in attack for a basher. This
means he should have a HIGH ORDER WIT statement for attack. The higher the attack
rating, the easier it will be to get through the parries and dodges of the opponent.
If you check the WIT statement chart and he doesn't have HIGH ORDER attack, he may not
do well.
3. DAMAGE: This is a MUST for any basher. Would recommend no less than a GOOD
DAMAGE rating. I prefer GREAT DAMAGE for my bashers, or more. A basher must be able
to do ALOT of damage when he hits, 'cause he is trying to bring his opponent down
fast. Because he can't afford to let his opponent attack back with the low defensive
abilities the basher has. That is why he needs to make every hit count.
4. INITIATIVE: He needs to start with at least a LOW ORDER initiative WIT
statement. He needs to maintain his attacks to get enough hits to bring his opponent
down, so there is no counter-attack. It does no good to strike first if he can't
maintain his initiative. Big size, high WIT, and high DEFTNESS will give your basher
extra starting INITIATIVE skills.
Designing a good basher doesn't take a rocket scientist. If you've been
wondering what to do with big guys, BASHER is the answer. Bashers make excellent
BASIC warriors. And if you get one that has some defensive abilities as well as
offense, he might be good at the higher levels of the game. Smaller bashers that have
higher skill bases fare better at higher levels of the game than bigger ones with less
skill. The only problem with small ones is surviving BASIC. 'Cause, they don't have
the DAMAGE or HIT POINTS the big ones have.
Strength: 10-17 Don't skimp, you need the damage. But WIT is the first
concern. Strength is number 3 in the priority race. You might need a little higher
if you have a small one. Remember you want to at least get a GOOD DAMAGE rating. You
can also train strength later, so don't worry about starting with it too high. I
always try to get odd numbers on strength, 'cause that's where most of the strength
requirements are for basher weapons. 15, 17, 21 STR also give extra skills.
Constitution: 6+ Try to get it to a least 6. If you already have it above 6,
don't add points here. This is low priority for adding points.
Size: 9+ is recommended, but I wouldn't go below 6 unless you got at least a 15
strength. If you have a size 15+, then you can go as low as 10 on the strength. A
QS, only needs an 11 strength to wield. You can use it till you get a 12 or more
strength to wield the bashers best weapon the WARHAMMER. Don't forget big size! 12+
get bonus HIT POINTS, DECISE SKILLS, and INITIATIVE SKILLS. But they also get a
penalty in their starting DEFENSE skills. Smaller ones, 8 or less, get bonus defense,
but less hit points. They also get hosed on DAMAGE bonus. But, the smaller ones
usually start out with more skills than the bigger ones.
WIT: 15, 17 or 21. Since a basher starts out with lower skill bases than most
styles, he needs to learn fast. Even if he is only an average basher, he can make up
for it by learning fast. Having a high WIT will help him learn fast. If you have a
slow learning basher, he won't be competitive after about 10 to 15 fights. The reason
is because the other styles that start with more skills than a basher will pass him up
in the skills department. This will cause many losses and even death. This is a
number ONE priority when adding points.
WILL: If you can't get 15, 17, or 21, don't add points here. WILL is not a
basher priority. If you want your basher to go to ADM, you need at least a 15 WILL.
Bashers are low endurance burn, and don't need high endurance. But it is nice to
have. Some of the best short term Bashers have low wills.
Speed: 5+. Speed is not a basher priority. Don't add points here. I don't
like 3 speeds, I believe there is a voodoo curse that penalizes you too much.
DEFTNESS: Many managers skimp here. DON'T SKIP on deftness. I see many
managers see that a roll up has low deftness and automatically say, "Make it a
basher." That greatly damages your basher. For a lunger or slasher who already have
ALOT of skill to start out with, it's okay to have a low deftness. But not a basher
who doesn't have those skills. Deftness is where most of the bonus skills come from.
Don't ROB your basher of the skills, he needs all he can get. I recommend 13+. 11 is
okay if you have a 17 or 21 WIT. I never go below 9 deftness, period.
BASHER WEAPONS: After experimenting with all of the basher weapons extensively,
I have more info in this area to give.
Basher Weapon Requirements :
Warhammer: STR 13, Size 3, WIT 9, DEF 7
Mace: Str 13, Size 3, WIT 7, DEF 5
Morning Star: Str 13, Size 3, WIT 9, DEF 13
War Flail: Str 11, Size 3, WIT 7, DEF 7
Quarterstaff: Str 11, Size 9, WIT 11, DEF 11
Great Axe: Str 13, Size 3, WIT 9, DEF 11
Great Sword: Str 15, Size 9, WIT 11, DEF 11
Maul: Str 15, Size 9, WIT 5, DEF 7
Halberd: Str 17, Size 9, WIT 11, DEF 11
Those weapons above are well suited to the basher. Also, weapons that are marginally
suitable are battle axe, broadsword, and fist. You do get a little penalty for using
marginally suitable weapons, but not enough to notice. Your basher's favorite weapon
can only be a well suited one.
Besides strength, other important factors that determine what weapon you equip
your basher with are ENDURANCE and current ATTACK skill level.
If your basher has an ENDURANCE problem, use the QS or WH. Or if he is fighting
against a heavy armored defensive style, these weapons are the best choice. Warhammer
is good against plate. Don't use a ML or HL with an endurance problem, 'cause he
won't last past round one.
If your basher hasn't gained enough skill yet, and is being parried most of the
time, use BIGGER weapons. If you have the strength and endurance use the ML or HL.
Using these weapons will increase the damage you do, making each hit count. In basic,
when weapon speed its a major factor, big weapons aren't really that slow. It is very
easy to a jump your opponent using a HL or ML, I do it all the time.
Another tactic I use often with great success is using big weapons for light
armor and lighter ones for heavy armor. Most offensives in basic wear lighter armor
and have fewer hit points. Offensive styles are more deadly to bashers than defensive
styles. Therefore you need to bring them down as quickly as possible. Using a HL or
ML against scale armor or less, usually only takes one or 2 hits to bring an offensive
style down. Defensive styles parry and dodge a lot of your attacks, so you need a
lighter weapon so you won't tire out quickly. Using a warhammer for chainmail and
above will let you last long enough to bring a defensive style down. Warhammer also
does very well against heavy armor.
WARHAMMER: 13 STR required. This is the BEST weapon for a basher without a
doubt. Its light weight and speed are unchallenged against all the other Basher
weapons. It also does a surprising amount of damage. Can be used against all armors
with great success. This weapon rarely breaks.
MACE: 13 STR required. This is an okay weapon, but doesn't compare to the
WARHAMMER. It has problems inflicting damage.
Morningstar: 13 STR and 13 DEFT required. Does good damage, but is slow and
heavy. Isn't worth the endurance burn.
War Flail: 11 STR required. The is the WORST weapon in the game. DON'T USE
IT!!!!! Damage for this weapon is very lame and I have see it bounce off of ALE and
NO ARMOR opponents. I believe daggers and fist do more damage!
Quarterstaff: 11 STR and DEFT required. This two handed weapon is light weight,
quick and good against all armors. This is a basher's fourth best weapon. This
weapon's main problem is that it breaks too much. I use the FIST as a backup when I
use the QS, so when it breaks he doesn't have to draw a backup weapon. Offensive
styles may not give you a chance to draw your backup weapon. With a fist back-up you
will continue attacking after your weapon has broken, maintaining your initiative.
Great Axe: 13 STR and 11 DEFT required. This is also much like the QS, but
weighs a little more. Does more damage than a QS. It will tire your basher faster.
This weapon also breaks a lot.
Maul: 15 STR required. Does massive damage, but is very heavy and tiresome.
This weapon is a better all-around weapon than the halberd. This is the 2nd best
bashing weapon.
Halberd: 17 Str required. Does the most damage in the game. This weapon also
is only for those warriors who have the strength and the endurance for it. This is a
basher's third best weapon.
Greatsword: 15 STR required. See WAR FLAIL. This weapon also breaks a lot.
Shields: Are well suited to bashers, but don't ever use one. They do hardly any
damage. Don't ever use a shield and any other weapon in a bashers OFF-HAND. They
rarely use their OFF-hand to parry and when they do use it to attack with, they do
less damage. When the computer gets to the part in the program where it selects which
hand to use, you want him to use his PRIMARY weapon to do the most DAMAGE. Not to
pick an off-hand weapon that does lessor damage. Also you get an attack bonus for
using two hands with many weapons.
Bashers favorite weapon: Well, out of 90 Basher ADM graduates, the following is
a list of their favorite weapons.
MS(9), MA(17), GA(5), GS(9), ML(9), WF(8), HL(8), WH(7), QS(9), ME(2), LG(8)
You have to try each of them if you want to guess which one it is. If you're
lucky and get the WH, then praise the gods!!
16 of the 90 bashers got the BASH tactic as their favorite tactic. But I
wouldn't use the BASH tactic; the DECISE tactic is awesome for a BASHER. I use it
with all my bashers. Two bashers got DECISE as a favorite tactic. Bash is only good
to use against strong defensive styles after round one. I have used the DEFENSE or
PARRY Tactics in desperation with great success. I will chose the one that the basher
has a WIT statement in. IE: If he has a DEFENSE statement, I use DEFENSE tactic in
DESP. If a parry statement, then PARRY in DESP. If neither, then PARRY 'cause it's
almost always higher than DEFENSE for a basher.
Basher Armor: ALE/S or H to start. If he doesn't seem to get the jump on most
of his opponents, then go to heavy armor. You can `sponge' your opponents by taking
hits and hope to hit them when they're tired. But if they do to much damage to you
first, you will lose.
Favorite Rhythms: Offensive effort should be between 8-10 the first minute and
5-8 there after. In DESP. 5-10. Activity Level should be 5-10 in the first minute
and 1-3 thereafter. IN DESP between 1-10. KD between 5-7 all rounds.
Typical Strategy:
MIN: 1 2 3 4 5 6 DESP
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OFF. 10 8 5 5 5 5 10
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AVT. 10 1 1 1 1 1 6
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KD. 7 6 6 6 6 6 6
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Att. RA RA RA RA RA RA RA
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Pro. HE HE HE HE HE HE HE
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TAC. DECISE in minute one. Bash in later minutes against scum or heavy defensive
styles. Defense or Parry in DESP.
If you aim for the limbs, you can take your opponent down quickly. Bashers tend to
hit the upper half of the body more anyhow.
Well, that's a wrap. If you would like to chat, get charts, or learn all the
stuff RSI doesn't tell you, drop me a line. You can diplo me in Primus DM102, "The
Joker's WILD" or any one of my others teams that are too numerous to list. Also, you
can EMAIL me at 103260.3347@compuserve.com
Ta-Ta,
Sir Jessie Jest
The Basher Guy